Is Killing criminals wrong?

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We have to draw a line between Right and wrong, if we cross it than what is it for.
Killing people is wrong however killing Monsters is not. If a person doesn't show remorse or the flinch of panic when they pull the trigger than they are demons disguised as men. But if we kill them then how are we better?
 

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is it morally wrong to kill "the worst of the worst amoung us" yes is the answer, it is morally wrong, but if "we" just decided to start killing them, and actually did it (killed them all) then the world would be a much, much better and safer place to live in for all the "innocent civillians" as you put it.
 

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In the heat of the moment, and if I had the power to, I probably would kill someone like you described. I'm not proud of it, but I won't deny it either.

So is killing someone like that wrong? Not really.

Imagine if you killed someone while they were in the middle of a murderous rampage. A lot of people would applaud you, because you stopped innocent bloodshed. And they're right, you did.

That shooter in California a month or two ago was shot dead by the police and no one was upset about it. He was killing people, what else were they supposed to do?

If you hesitate in fear of killing in a situation like that, several more innocent people could be killed, and the blood's on your hands.
 

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And who is it to determine who should die and who should not? What is it to live in a civilized society? What is the most fundamental thing you sacrifice for security, that those who do not wish to have it have, and are thereby labelled as wrongful? Self-preservation?

Why labelled them as animals, if we ourselves are social animals too? Is it because of our intellect that we have the right to decide the lives of intellectually inferior species? If so, that is arrogance. If they have killed someone, and we killed them in return, we just end up in the same place as before, except that in our culture, killing after a trial is seen as "correct".

no, i truely hope your mother gets killed. then we may talk again how you think about Criminals. You think its normal? what good is it to kill them?? We throw trash away because its no use anymore. We should Kill criminals. because they're no use anymore. i pitty the one who ever told humanity to keep those alive.
 

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no, i truely hope your mother gets killed. then we may talk again how you think about Criminals. You think its normal? what good is it to kill them?? We throw trash away because its no use anymore. We should Kill criminals. because they're no use anymore. i pitty the one who ever told humanity to keep those alive.

Similar awful stuff as you depicted has happened in my life, and I'm very aware of the problems that occur around the world. Was I angry because all of that happened? Yes, yes I was. But as much as I wanted to bash the head's of those who have hurt me, it is I who have to take that step over the emotional boundaries that define humanity and try to reach a much more logical consensus. Those who have harmed me are now in jail, one is there for life and the other is there for 20 years, and though everyday I want them to swallow their own tongues, that will be their decision. Will they feel remorse, will they fear nothing? That's not for me to decide. It is not pity, it is standing above limitations.

And you, who wishes for my mother to be murdered, you who has no tolerance at those who have a different opinion than you, your arrogance and ignorance appalls me. By wishing the death of someone, just because they are different than you, you are nothing more than the other criminals who pulled the trigger. You are as sick as them, even if you haven't pulled the trigger, because of that slight hesitation that dwells in your mind, you behave like one of them. Should we wait for you to murder someone to take your life? Why not take it right now, and prevent the lives of many people to be taken. Someone who can so easily say "I hope your murder is killed" cannot hope to understand others.
 
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no, i truely hope your mother gets killedthen we may talk again how you think about Criminals. You think its normal? what good is it to kill them?? We throw trash away because its no use anymore. We should Kill criminals. because they're no use anymore. i pitty the one who ever told humanity to keep those alive.

You're sick


I believe serial killers and serial rapists and stuff should be killed
 

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Similar awful stuff as you depicted has happened in my life, and I'm very aware of the problems that occur around the world. Was I angry because all of that happened? Yes, yes I was. But as much as I wanted to bash the head's of those who have hurt me, it is I who have to take that step over the emotional boundaries that define humanity and try to reach a much more logical consensus. Those who have harmed me are now in jail, one is there for life and the other is there for 20 years, and though everyday I want them to swallow their own tongues, that will be their decision. Will they feel remorse, will they fear nothing? That's not for me to decide. It is not pity, it is standing above limitations.

And you, who wishes for my mother to be murdered, you who has no tolerance at those who have a different opinion than you, your arrogance and ignorance appalls me. By wishing the death of someone, just because they are different than you, you are nothing more than the other criminals who pulled the trigger. You are as sick as them, even if you haven't pulled the trigger, because of that slight hesitation that dwells in your mind, you behave like one of them. Should we wait for you to murder someone to take your life? Why not take it right now, and prevent the lives of many people to be taken. Someone who can so easily say "I hope your murder is killed" cannot hope to understand others.
I still believe, its right to kill the,.
 

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This discussion is wayyyy longer than I ever expected it to be.
 

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The same thing. You say "a person" as if the killer was just like us, innocent citizens. But he is not, and I proved it.

Again: I'm not telling you to go out there and kill every murderer you find, no. I'm not telling you to mass murder everyone in prison, no.

I'm talking about a cop shotting a murderer. I'm talking about a civilian reactin to some criminal and killing him, her. In My country, these things bring a lot of headache for the innocent citizens. Because of the dumb moralists.
Some cops I'm fired, some innocent people are sued or arrested.

What is wrong with the actions I just described.

I was not replying to your post. I was coming with my own opinion in general.
 

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The act of death penalty is nothing but primitive. People succumb to emotions of revenge and call them "justice", and make it seem right by giving a trial to either kill or not kill a human being. But that is all it is, killing. If you take justice by your own hand, it is revenge and murder, if a trial is done, it is justice. Why is that you ask? There is two simple reasons for this:

1. You aren't doing it yourself.
2. Everyone can agree that the person "deserves" to die.

Everything is hidden behind a false sense of logic in trying to kill a human, but its driven by emotion. Locking up someone for life has the same result as punishing someone with the death penalty. It cost less to kill someone you say? If you do a little research, you find out there is a lot of cost in trying to actually kill someone. Locking up someone prevents them from ever doing harm to society, from interfering with our everyday's life. Think about it, it all comes from rage, from emotion.

Personally, when it comes to judging, I disagree with the use of death penalty. It is simply too barbaric and it really slows down the process we slowly try to build. Heck, even religious morality allows the use of death sentence.

But I believe is different when it comes to "acts of war". A cop shooting a criminal who has been warned, or shooting criminals in the middle of a warfare is perfectly fine. During those times, the criminals are a risk to everyone, and may endanger the lives of the authorities, and thus proper action may have to be used. It is not the middle of a trial, it is in the middle of action, and thus "action" needs to be used. Action is different than trial, and must remain different.

I don't know man. Immanuel Kant, one of the world's best Logicians disagree with your position.

He thinks that in ethics, there must be balance. When a murderer kills, the murderer automatically signed their life away. It's fair too because it balances the actions and the criminal already completed the trade.

With every action, there is an equal but opposite reaction.
 

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Kill them. If you take a life yours should be forfeit. If there are two witnesses to testify that you committed rape or molested a child you should be executed as well. Only one appeal authorized so you go straight to the head of the line.
 

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Hehehe I love reading this thread to see all the opinions people think, now while I was reading some of em I do have to agree that killers need to be put down, as for why well why should we allow murderers to live. Before you say it's because they are human, I'd tell you that they are not, once you take a life for no reason and feel no remorse then you deserve to die. as for why I think this it's simple my morals tell me he doesn't deserve to live, we all have different values so you will find that people butt heads alot of times. I can also say for the people who say I don't have the right to Say things about a human, then tell me what right did that human have to kill an innocent with no remorse or reason.
 

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I believe eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth. The crime should fit the punishment. Kill someone you die. Steal lose a hand. Most people don't learn from going to jail. Putting people in jail for life. Is a lot of money on its own.
 

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It all depends on the variables, and based off the information below...

City’s Annual Cost Per Inmate Is $168,000, Study Finds

To me, the death penalty can be justified in some cases. But not all murderers deserve death. Some people murder in the heat of the moment and live with that for the rest of their lives and it changes them. Some people accidently murder another in fights or other dangerous activities. These people don't deserve a death penalty in my eyes.

Now some other types of criminals deserve the death penalty. Mass murderers, child molesters, rapists, etc. in my eyes, shouldn't be given the opportunity to live. They are a nuisance to society and obviously don't care about other people's feelings.

But in all honesty, what is the point of spending millions, if not billions of dollars a year to keep this deranged ****s locked up? To try and help them? Some people are beyond help. Any person in their right mind wouldn't sexually touch an infant.
 

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It depends on the crime that you do.

If you purposely take a life or lives then you deserve to die. That simple.

Why should I be the one that's dead and rotting in some coffin while you still be alive and breathing in a jail cell? That' not fair.
 
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