Is Killing criminals wrong?

[Wolfus]

I actually agree with you. My only problem with the death penalty(of course this isn't the full scope of your thread) is not the moral aspect of it, but the justice system. Every now and then the justice system errs, and on those occasions you may end up killing/executing an innocent man/woman. But I agree, some mass murderers need to dealt with swiftly. The whole "people hating cops" thing happens all over the world, although it's probably more extreme in some countries.

Finally someone not infected by moralism in here. I agree with you as well. I fear the death penalty exactly because of that reason. Either bad investigations or corruption. Innocents would end up dying instead of being protected.

Anyway, I'm afraid I'm late. IRRC, it used to be like that in my country as well. People would just say what others are saying in this thread: that no one has to right to take a person's life, that they're all humans, etc.

And now? Well, now, cops are fired, hated, and sued for killing murderers, even though they try not to. Innocents are arrested or sued for protecting or avenging themselves.
Take a look at this, because if things keep going like these, this will be your future.

And I can't stop it alone.

 

[naruto s06p beastmode]

The way I see it is it depends on the crime if were talking about some dude who killed in cold blood then they deserve to die or rot whichever works, now a man who stole for the sake of surviving a lesser punishment would do it but something that would teach or reprimand to not do it again. Also one post mentioned that justice and morality doesn't exist and while I agree justice doesn't exist, I would say that morality does exist within certain people now by that I mean people who obviously have no issue with just killing randomly doesn't have morality or very little of it, while someone who would find killing someone not right would have morals. Although for people morality ranges everyone has a different amount of morality in which they find right or offensive.

 

[Wolfus]

The way I see it is it depends on the crime if were talking about some dude who killed in cold blood then they deserve to die or rot whichever works, now a man who stole for the sake of surviving a lesser punishment would do it but something that would teach or reprimand to not do it again. Also one post mentioned that justice and morality doesn't exist and while I agree justice doesn't exist, I would say that morality does exist within certain people now by that I mean people who obviously have no issue with just killing randomly doesn't have morality or very little of it, while someone who would find killing someone not right would have morals. Although for people morality ranges everyone has a different amount of morality in which they find right or offensive.

I agree. But not as concerned with the punishment. I mean, that's what life sentences are for. I'm concerned about innocent people's safety. Depending on the situation, killing a murderer might save many lives. Innocent lives.
However, some people are trying, and actually, succeding in making this action wrong. Killing the murderer.

And a murderer's life, it's way less important than an innocent's. That's my point.

 

[naruto s06p beastmode]

Yep totally agree with you wolfus, some people just need to die since they have no qualms of killing innocents for the sake of not feeling regret or enjoying it

 

[Jack Spicer]

I would like to believe in rehabilitation and give people a second chance in some cases, so I'd give them that. However, if they don't change and fail. I'd Dexter and Light it up. People who are monsters are a waste of space and deserve to die for their actions.

 

[Conspirator.]

Finally someone not infected by moralism in here. I agree with you as well. I fear the death penalty exactly because of that reason. Either bad investigations or corruption. Innocents would end up dying instead of being protected.

Anyway, I'm afraid I'm late. IRRC, it used to be like that in my country as well. People would just say what others are saying in this thread: that no one has to right to take a person's life, that they're all humans, etc.

And now? Well, now, cops are fired, hated, and sued for killing murderers, even though they try not to. Innocents are arrested or sued for protecting or avenging themselves.
Take a look at this, because if things keep going like these, this will be your future.

And I can't stop it alone.

You are from brazil right? I heard that it's one of the more corrupt nations in the world. Although the fact is that corruption with the law always exists in every country. What differs from country to country is the degree and openness of it.

 

[Delcan]

Depending on the crime they committed.

If they did atrocious crimes that do not deserve any hope for rehabs, they shouldn't waste taxpayers' money to continue living behind bars.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

I feel like you people aren't reading. " I'm not telling you to go out there and kill every murderer you find, no. I'm not telling you to mass murder everyone in prison, no."

Yeah i got that part but if you had the Death Note wouldn't you use it?

 

[Tantalus Thief]

If someone kills and they have no mental conditions then they deserve the death penalty or time in prison. If they are certain then execute them, we shouldn't waste money giving them a home and meal or let them live since they have no consideration to the person's live they took. It all depends on the crime and person

 

[Meee]

I think murderers, rapists, pedo's etc should be killed (and no not self defence or that statutory rape shit)

if they wernt they'd probably just murder/rape in prison shit happens all the time and why should tax payers pay to keep these fckers in prison?

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

I would like to believe in rehabilitation and give people a second chance in some cases, so I'd give them that. However, if they don't change and fail. I'd Dexter and Light it up. People who are monsters are a waste of space and deserve to die for their actions.

Nicely said.I would give you pionts but i don't know how too,lol.

 

[Wolfus]

You are from brazil right? I heard that it's one of the more corrupt nations in the world. Although the fact is that corruption with the law always exists in every country. What differs from country to country is the degree and openness of it.

It checks. However, corruption is not only in the government. It's all over the place. It's everywhere. it's brazilians. They are corrupted. Stealing from poor places, not returning an extra misgiven change, not doing their part in small deals. Small actions. But it's corruption, nonetheless.

These small actions increase when their postion increase. That's why brazil should be nuked. Because there is no hope. For how long is this stupidity, this corruption, be contained in here? What if it spreads? Then the world is doomed.

Of course, this isn't eas easy as it sounds. And of course I wouldn't want so much innocent people to die like that.

But I did say the true. These ideas, they spread fast, you know? All I want is that the other places, stay as they are. I don't other places like in here.

 

[King Kendrick]

if someone killed my mother god forbid and i had the chance to kill them i probably would .

 

[Senju Bean]

Murderers should be at the mercy of the family of the murdered.

However the punishment they want to give, they should give.

 

[Wabbit]

It is not wrong.
It is simple if someone does not play the game by the rules or causes problem to others you kick them out.

 

[Gin-San]

The act of death penalty is nothing but primitive. People succumb to emotions of revenge and call them "justice", and make it seem right by giving a trial to either kill or not kill a human being. But that is all it is, killing. If you take justice by your own hand, it is revenge and murder, if a trial is done, it is justice. Why is that you ask? There is two simple reasons for this:

1. You aren't doing it yourself.
2. Everyone can agree that the person "deserves" to die.

Everything is hidden behind a false sense of logic in trying to kill a human, but its driven by emotion. Locking up someone for life has the same result as punishing someone with the death penalty. It cost less to kill someone you say? If you do a little research, you find out there is a lot of cost in trying to actually kill someone. Locking up someone prevents them from ever doing harm to society, from interfering with our everyday's life. Think about it, it all comes from rage, from emotion.

Personally, when it comes to judging, I disagree with the use of death penalty. It is simply too barbaric and it really slows down the process we slowly try to build. Heck, even religious morality allows the use of death sentence.

But I believe is different when it comes to "acts of war". A cop shooting a criminal who has been warned, or shooting criminals in the middle of a warfare is perfectly fine. During those times, the criminals are a risk to everyone, and may endanger the lives of the authorities, and thus proper action may have to be used. It is not the middle of a trial, it is in the middle of action, and thus "action" needs to be used. Action is different than trial, and must remain different.

 

[-immortal-]

Criminals have to be murdered. There is no point of keeping thosr alive.
The big excuse is that they have problems in their fkin brains. Just kill them of like animals, since they love to act that way.

 

[Gin-San]

Criminals have to be murdered. There is no point of keeping thosr alive.
The big excuse is that they have problems in their fkin brains. Just kill them of like animals, since they love to act that way.

And who is it to determine who should die and who should not? What is it to live in a civilized society? What is the most fundamental thing you sacrifice for security, that those who do not wish to have it have, and are thereby labelled as wrongful? Self-preservation?

Why labelled them as animals, if we ourselves are social animals too? Is it because of our intellect that we have the right to decide the lives of intellectually inferior species? If so, that is arrogance. If they have killed someone, and we killed them in return, we just end up in the same place as before, except that in our culture, killing after a trial is seen as "correct".

 

[the unforgiven]

If you end someone's life, if you murder someone, then you deserve to be murdered as well, its simple as that. An eye for an eye. If you murder someone in cold blood by the laws of common sense you deserve equal severity in your punishment as in the crime you committed. That is what our society should demand lest we become unjust in our judgement and let the scales of justice tip too far.

^ i agree with guy

 

[Tobi98]

I think that instead of killing they should just locked them away for life