Is Killing criminals wrong?

[Punk Hazard]

Because it's not the same, and that's what some can't noticed. The murderer killed an innocent citizen, under normal circunstances, whereas what I'm talking about is killing a murderer. Ending a threat, and potentially saving a lot of lives.
Again, I'm not telling anyone to kill them first chance you have. But if that's the option in hand, then don't be afraid of doing it, that's my point.

Sometimes in life, you have to chose what you want to protect, and for that, sometimes, other things must be sacrificed. In these cases, if you want to protect your fellow citizens, then a murderer must be killed.

What do you want to protect?

Life in prison can do just that, so why do we need the death penalty?

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

Lives are different one from another, you know. A murderer's life, it's very different from ours. In fact, his is quite harmful, and dangerous. And he doesn't care if it's wrong or right to kill people.

So, why exactly is it what we should do whatever it takes to protect him?

You know how many prisons there are and how much money these people are making from prisons?

There's space or more can be created.

 

[oShux]

If you end someone's life, if you murder someone, then you deserve to be murdered as well, its simple as that. An eye for an eye. If you murder someone in cold blood by the laws of common sense you deserve equal severity in your punishment as in the crime you committed. That is what our society should demand lest we become unjust in our judgement and let the scales of justice tip too far.

An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind. People can repent. But it depends on the situation.

 

[Lakers]

didnt read but if there gonna be in there for life than yeah. only read title

 

[oShux]

Life in prison can do just that, so why do we need the death penalty?

They go into prison and cause trouble for other inmates. Inamtes who are in there for petty crimes, etc. I'm not saying I condone the death penalty, I'm just saying that if someone you love was murdered and you had to choice to kill the murderer, wouldn't you take it?

 

[Tera Path]

Life in prison can do just that, so why do we need the death penalty?

It's a waste to keep someone alive and in prison until the day that they die depending on the crime.

I don't really like the death penalty for some people, like people who have killed and tortured allot of people, death penalty is the easy way out and life in prison is just too low of a punishment.

 

[Lakers]

just read some comments up there. i agree cut off some fingers or something similar depending on what they did n yeah, people would be too scared to even go

 

[oShux]

Did you guys watch the anime Death Note?

 

[Wolfus]

You know how many prisons there are and how much money these people are making from prisons?

There's space or more can be created.

Tell that to my people. Because the prisons in here are almost exploding.

Nonetheless, that doesn't change what I'm telling you. I'm not telling you to kill them right away. But if it's needed, that's my point. What's wrong if a person reacts and kill a murderer? Or the cop kills a murderer?

If arresting them isn't an option at the situation, then why should we worry so much about protecting them? And why would we punish whoever killed them? There are lives at stake in these situations. If a murderer walks, then that means that other people, innocent people, are going to die, most likely. So why we would risk more innocent lives?

I'm waiting for a good reason.

 

[oShux]

just read some comments up there. i agree cut off some fingers or something similar depending on what they did n yeah, people would be too scared to even go

What if someone murdered to protect a loved one? Should a guy have some of his fingers cut off to protect his family from a burglar? Cause in the American justice system "murder is murder" they don't care what the situation is. You guys have a very childish mindset of the world. I miss the old Naruto base where it actually had intelligent members. Today's community is nothing but trash.

 

[Punk Hazard]

It's a waste to keep someone alive for the rest of their lives depending on the crime.

I don't really like the death penalty for some people, like people who have killed and tortured allot of people, death penalty is the easy way out and life in prison is just too low of a punishment.

@Bold: :|

Anyways, these people need to punished for crimes. Murder, rape, shit like that are the most severe crimes and therefore deserve the most severe punishment. However, the death penalty is just excessive.

no
we should do it more often
we spend way too much on them

they get to stay in prison
they have a roof over their heads and 3 meals a day (i think lol)

there are good people out there that are homeless and starving :|
we should stop wasting so much ****ing money on housing/feeding murderers and rapists
and spend more on helping good citizens that are in need

You know why prisons provide enough food and shelter to convicts to keep them alive? Because if they didn't we wouldn't be any better than them.

 

[oShux]

Tell that to my people. Because the prisons in here are almost exploding.

Nonetheless, that doesn't change what I'm telling you. I'm not telling you to kill them right away. But if it's needed, that's my point. What's wrong if a person reacts and kill a murderer? Or the cop kills a murderer?

If arresting them isn't an option at the situation, then why should we worry so much about protecting them? And why would we punish whoever killed them? There are lives at stake in these situations. If a murderer walks, then that means that other people, innocent people, are going to die, most likely. So why we would risk more innocent lives?

I'm waiting for a good reason.

Don't detectives watch murderers for a while when they're released from jail? Sometimes they can't leave the country, or even the state, can't do certain things, keep having ID photos retaken every couple of months, etc.

 

[Wolfus]

Life in prison can do just that, so why do we need the death penalty?

Can it? And, tell me. If you're the one who makes this choice: Letting a criminal live in jail, or killing him. You choose what you're defending right now. And this criminal, this murderer, somehow is set free again, or escapes, and kills someone else. Wouldn't that be your fault?

Some people, some powerful people, are still able to have some contacts in the outside, and they still end up being responsible for other murders. Ohter muderers kill in this powerful person's behalf. So, how does jail solve that?

and this:

Nonetheless, that doesn't change what I'm telling you. I'm not telling you to kill them right away. But if it's needed, that's my point. What's wrong if a person reacts and kill a murderer? Or the cop kills a murderer?

If arresting them isn't an option at the situation, then why should we worry so much about protecting them? And why would we punish whoever killed them? There are lives at stake in these situations. If a murderer walks, then that means that other people, innocent people, are going to die, most likely. So why we would risk more innocent lives?

I'm waiting for a good reason.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

I know what you would do if you had the Death Note.

 

[Wolfus]

@Bold: :|

Anyways, these people need to punished for crimes. Murder, rape, shit like that are the most severe crimes and therefore deserve the most severe punishment. However, the death penalty is just excessive.




You know why prisons provide enough food and shelter to convicts to keep them alive? Because if they didn't we wouldn't be any better than them.

BOLD- That's false. Lives are different one from another, you know. A murderer's life, it's very different from ours. In fact, his is quite harmful, and dangerous. And he doesn't care if it's wrong or right to kill people.

 

[Tera Path]

@Bold: :|

Anyways, these people need to punished for crimes. Murder, rape, shit like that are the most severe crimes and therefore deserve the most severe punishment. However, the death penalty is just excessive.

Now that I read that...... I feel quite retarded.......
Guess I'll just edit it and act like it never happened.

And there is no ''severe'' punishment at all. The worst a criminal would get is a death sentence or life in prison while some deserve to be tortured for the rest of their lives.
For any severe crime, life in prison and death sentence for me is anything but excessive, if anything it's not enough.
As I said, 1. waste of resources and space, 2. easy way out.

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

Tell that to my people. Because the prisons in here are almost exploding.

Nonetheless, that doesn't change what I'm telling you. I'm not telling you to kill them right away. But if it's needed, that's my point. What's wrong if a person reacts and kill a murderer? Or the cop kills a murderer?

If arresting them isn't an option at the situation, then why should we worry so much about protecting them? And why would we punish whoever killed them? There are lives at stake in these situations. If a murderer walks, then that means that other people, innocent people, are going to die, most likely. So why we would risk more innocent lives?

I'm waiting for a good reason.

You're talking about letting them go, I never said anything about that. Most prisoners with life sentences die in prison before there sentence is up anyways, letting them go would be pointless.

But should someone else be able to decide if someone else should die? No I don't think so, that's murder in itself. Most prisoners in maximum security with life sentences want to die anyways, why not just ask them. Executing people is wrong either way I'm saying. But that's why they pick people that can handle the weight of taking a lot of lives easily. I couldn't.

So you can look at it however you want but at the bases it's just murdering someone for murdering someone. Which is a contradiction.

 

[Wolfus]

I know what you would do if you had the Death Note.

I feel like you people aren't reading. " I'm not telling you to go out there and kill every murderer you find, no. I'm not telling you to mass murder everyone in prison, no."

 

[Punk Hazard]

Can it? And, tell me. If you're the one who makes this choice: Letting a criminal live in jail, or killing him. You choose what you're defending right now. And this criminal, this murderer, somehow is set free again, or escapes, and kills someone else. Wouldn't that be your fault?

Some people, some powerful people, are still able to have some contacts in the outside, and they still end up being responsible for other murders. Ohter muderers kill in this powerful person's behalf. So, how does jail solve that?

1. No that wouldn't be my fault, that'd be his fault and the prison's fault for letting him escape. And what percentage of people who go to prison actually escape? Exactly.

2. If the powerful person is dead, does that mean the people he would have contacted are no longer murderers? Let's say a mafia leader or some shit goes to jail. Will the murderers who listen to him stop being murderers because he is now dead? Chances are, they're gonna murder anyway, people will still die, so you really accomplished nothing. Criminals will be criminals.

 

[Punk Hazard]

BOLD- That's false. Lives are different one from another, you know. A murderer's life, it's very different from ours. In fact, his is quite harmful, and dangerous. And he doesn't care if it's wrong or right to kill people.

Well let me throw this scenario at you: A man's wife is killed. A few months later, he kills the killers and is sentenced to death because he committed murder and is now a criminal. However, he killed criminals who are harmful and dangerous and who don't care if it's right or wrong to kill people. Yet, it was still considered murder, it is still considered wrong. So what makes it right when a jury or judge does the exact same thing this man did to a criminal, but was wrong for doing so?