Broly or Perfect Cell

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broly and cell is like comparing superman to goku
ofcourse cell wins even though broly might have more durability and higher powerlevel in the end cell has much more tricks up to sleeve he has literaly every dna from every villian and he can in the end destroy broly with the spirit bomb.

remember when vegeta fired final flash at cell, and vegeta was 4 times weaker than cell, that just proves that even someone with less powerlevel can kill you.
 

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Actually the SSJ Goku that defeated Broly may well have been even stronger than a SSJ2 considering he got power from multiple Full Power SSJ1 and Full Power SSJ isn't that far away from the SSJ2
just no ssj2 is 50 times stronger than ssj1 unless there was 50 super saiyans to give him enough energy he would not hold a candle against a super saiyan 2 also the amount of energy they gave goku wasent that much because then it would have killed them if they gave all their energy
 

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just no ssj2 is 50 times stronger than ssj1 unless there was 50 super saiyans to give him enough energy he would not hold a candle against a super saiyan 2 also the amount of energy they gave goku wasent that much because then it would have killed them if they gave all their energy
How do you know the 50times thing?
 

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It was stated that when a Saiyan goes from base to Super Saiyan, his power is multiplied by 50. However, it's not multiplied by 50 when he goes from Super Saiyan to Super Saiyan 2, the multiplication level is lowered, but I can't remembered to what.
Oh really ? Who said that? Do you remember? Either way considering it is not related to SSJ, it has no relevancy. Remember that SSJ Goku was much stronger than Kaioken 20 Goku in the frieza arc and Full power SSJ Goku is even much stronger than that?
 

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Super Perfect Cell>SS1 Goku>Broly
Please stop posting forever.

OT: I looked it up. Super Saiyan boosts base by 50, Super Saiyan 2 boosts Super Saiyan by 2, and Super Saiyan 3 boosts the power of Super Saiyan 2 by 4. It's in the Daizenshuu, which is basically like the DBZ equivalent of the databook but more reliable.
 

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lol, Bogad I even made the thread today. Here it is.

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It wasn't Daizenshuu btw riker slade, it's from Super Exciting Guide. Daizenshuu gave PL, Super Exciting Guide stated how much stronger SSJ2 & 3 multipliers make after SSJ1.

''On p.62-63, it says that Super Saiyan 2 is twice as strong as regular Super Saiyan, and that Super Saiyan 3 is four times as strong as Super Saiyan 2. It also repeats Daizenshuu 7′s statement about regular Super Saiyan increasing the battle power by a factor of 50. Somewhat interestingly, the comment on regular Super Saiyan is the only one that uses the term “battle power”, while for 2 and 3 it simply says “strength”. This may be to go along with Daizenshuu 7′s statement that the increase in the character’s strength past the battle with Freeza cannot be measured in battle powers.''
 
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I dont really like getting into debates nowadays but I will leave my input.Anyways it depends on which broly you're talking about. Movie 10 (I believe) where he came back he was beating a ssj 2 gohan until gohan lured him into the lava. Ssj 2 adult gohan is weaker than his teen counterpart but is still a ssj2 nonetheless so that puts him around a ssj 2 if not higher since he must've gotten a boost from his near death experience. I think this broly version beats either perfect cell or super perfect cell. I'm not sure about movie 8 broly though.
 

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''Broly's official power level as a Legendary Super Saiyan is around 1,400,000,000 according to a 2004 V-Jump.''

''According to Scouter Battle Taikan Kamehameha too, Cell's power level is 1,079,956,055 during the Super 17 Saga.''


Broly's is 'official', but Cells is debatable. But if we went by these PL, Broly would merk.

Also:

''Perfect Cell's power level is 900,000,000 according to the video game Dragon Ball Z: Scouter Battle Taikan Kamehameha.''
 
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I dont really like getting into debates nowadays but I will leave my input.Anyways it depends on which broly you're talking about. Movie 10 (I believe) where he came back he was beating a ssj 2 gohan until gohan lured him into the lava. Ssj 2 adult gohan is weaker than his teen counterpart but is still a ssj2 nonetheless so that puts him around a ssj 2 if not higher since he must've gotten a boost from his near death experience. I think this broly version beats either perfect cell or super perfect cell. I'm not sure about movie 8 broly though.
Did gohan go ssj2 in that movie looked like ssj1 to me.
 

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Did gohan go ssj2 in that movie looked like ssj1 to me.
Yeah because he didn't have electricity right? They've been inconsistent with that even in the anime... sometimes they didn't bother adding electricity to goku or vegeta in the buu saga when they went ssj2 when in those very scenes in the manga they had electricity but not in the anime if i remember correctly.
He never turned SSJ2 in that movie.
Well in my view point he did... how else do you explain Gohan stunning and slightly hurting broly and even breaking out of his hold? When his stronger younger teen counterpart shat himself with no else like goku, vegeta, or trunks even coming close to hurting broly until the obvious a**pull at the end.
Also here's a comparison.
Movie 10 Gohan:
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SSJ2 anime gohan
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They look exactly the same minus the electricity.

Gohan was a sjj 1 though in the family kamehameha against broly.
bad quality but you can tell since he has 2 strands as opposed to having 1 when he's in ssj 2
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''Broly's official power level as a Legendary Super Saiyan is around 1,400,000,000 according to a 2004 V-Jump.''

''According to Scouter Battle Taikan Kamehameha too, Cell's power level is 1,079,956,055 during the Super 17 Saga.''


Broly's is 'official', but Cells is debatable. But if we went by these PL, Broly would merk.

Also:

''Perfect Cell's power level is 900,000,000 according to the video game Dragon Ball Z: Scouter Battle Taikan Kamehameha.''
A video game and a non-canon version of Cell? Quality debating.
 

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Yeah because he didn't have electricity right? They've been inconsistent with that even in the anime... sometimes they didn't bother adding electricity to goku or vegeta in the buu saga when they went ssj2 when in those very scenes in the manga they had electricity but not in the anime if i remember correctly.

Well in my view point he did... how else do you explain Gohan stunning and slightly hurting broly and even breaking out of his hold? When his stronger younger teen counterpart shat himself with no else like goku, vegeta, or trunks even coming close to hurting broly until the obvious a**pull at the end.
Also here's a comparison.
Movie 10 Gohan:
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SSJ2 anime gohan
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They look exactly the same minus the electricity.

Gohan was a sjj 1 though in the family kamehameha against broly.
bad quality but you can tell since he has 2 strands as opposed to having 1 when he's in ssj 2
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that was ssj1 gohan he never showed electricity period..where as goku am vegeta showed it at some point.
 
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