[Discussion] Soo Sasuke's new powers suck...

[take it easy]

Re: Wow, so sasuke's power is borderline crap.

this shit pales with comparison to ftg and kamui.

 

[KCN]

Re: Wow, so sasuke's power is borderline crap.

And all Naruto can do is form a ball. Lolololololololololol.

A ball which can vaporize multi moutains across thousands an thousands of meters. Sasuke's shitty jutsu can barely save his own ass Lol

You actualy know the power of rinnengan? Like when you have rinnengan you can learn and master every jutsu you see? And you can control all elements. You can create your own Peins, suck souls of people, use all Tensei techniques ?

Obito will teach Sasuke how to control Rinnengan since Obito had one.

A much weaker version of naruto already shat on pain rikodou powers. They wont help sasuke here. And obito is on the verge of death, naruto simpy prolonged his life.

 

[Draxus]

Re: Wow, so sasuke's power is borderline crap.

Agreed, one of the first things I noticed about the current chapter. Thought any object in his eye sight he could teleport to but the fact that he needed to run is disappointing. I'm waiting for him to show more but instead he keeps showing less, when he was against (Jubi) Madara his speed seemed so fast as Madara was surprised Sasuke caught up to him but now that doesn't seem to be the case.

I don't get this guys and OP surprise about the limitations of this jutsu. We've known for a while now it has limited range. Madara figured that out after seeing it twice.

What we learned today was that he has to swap with an object, which I think is jutsu's weakest point. In a combat situation you don't need to teleport great distances to be effective.

 

[EVlL]

he also has the sunshin things. remember when he teleport kaguya in between himself and naruto? and the same thing on madara?

 

[Kαmi]

Re: Wow, so sasuke's power is borderline crap.

Lawl, he can teleport repeatedly if necessary to open up his range. Simply constantly teleport 99 m in a desired direction and you're good Lol It's pretty simply covered up, and it seemed bigger than 100 m to me, they weren't made out so clearly IMO. Plus, in battle, 100 M is really all you need. No need to change location entirely in battle. He doesn't just manipulate himself, he can switches places with any two masses, without having to include himself. You just seem like you have too basic a comprehension on the technique honestly.

 

[SkyGodHorus]

Obviously I should have been telling Kishi what to do because obviously he has lost all brain function.

Lol well, somebody's certainly full of themselves. If you're going to bash the mangaka, few will take you seriously.

And no, your idea is ridiculous, sorry to burst your bubble.

 

[KCN]

Re: Wow, so sasuke's power is borderline crap.

Lawl, he can teleport repeatedly if necessary to open up his range. Simply constantly teleport 99 m in a desired direction and you're good Lol It's pretty simply covered up, and it seemed bigger than 100 m to me, they weren't made out so clearly IMO. Plus, in battle, 100 M is really all you need. No need to change location entirely in battle. He doesn't just manipulate himself, he can switches places with any two masses, without having to include himself. You just seem like you have too basic a comprehension on the technique honestly.

Repeatedly teleport

1) gives the opponent a brief window to know he's coming
2) gives them time to react.

Someone like naruto will absolutely bully thus hindrance, and the fact that he has to swap with an object makes it so much worse. Imagine hes fighting in the konoha crater (naruto vs pain) where there's nothing? Or a plain field? The technique sucks.

 

[Blackwatch]

Re: Wow, so sasuke's power is borderline crap.

Yeah, it's not very good. Glorified substitution jutsu.

 

[moist]

Re: Wow, so sasuke's power is borderline crap.

Dont forget that Naruto hasnt even shown his Battle Avatar yet..+ as you said the other bjuu powers lmao.

Sasuke will get destroyed..

This was confirmed when Kaguya rekt Sasukes perfect susanoo...then Naruto proceeds to own Kaguya......


Shows the power level difference.

Sasuke gets fodderised

 

[SilverfoxUchiha]

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Shisue used the body flicker technique roflllll!

has nothing to do with his MS

That's neither here nor there.

It still proves even moreso if anything that Sasukes Amped up Substitution Jutsu is still not overly impressive seeing as anybody skilled enough can learn Body Flicker, which is actually more efficient than Sasukes 'Rinnegan' ability.

Kishi has not really maximized on the potential power Sasuke could have wielded (i see no meteors) and instead gave him very mild powerups (considering we are speaking about Sage of the Six Paths Chakra here).

Edit: Oh, and you spelt his name wrong. It's Shisui not Shisue.

 

[Zakler2k9]

Re: Wow, so sasuke's power is borderline crap.

Repeatedly teleport

1) gives the opponent a brief window to know he's coming
2) gives them time to react.

Someone like naruto will absolutely bully thus hindrance, and the fact that he has to swap with an object makes it so much worse. Imagine hes fighting in the konoha crater (naruto vs pain) where there's nothing? Or a plain field? The technique sucks.

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[B00m]

Re: Wow, so sasuke's power is borderline crap.

I don't get this guys and OP surprise about the limitations of this jutsu. We've known for a while now it has limited range. Madara figured that out after seeing it twice.

What we learned today was that he has to swap with an object, which I think is jutsu's weakest point. In a combat situation you don't need to teleport great distances to be effective.

I was surprised because I thought he could teleport to anything in his sight, the distance was never stated until now. The portal didn't even seem that far away.

And I thought the object switching was the obvious part (as seen by his sword) not the hinderance of distance, which I think is the worst part. Tell that to Sasuke when bijuu bombs are flying around him when he can't even teleport beyond his sight range.

The fact that he needs to see the object he's teleporting to and has a limited distance makes it crap compared to FTG. Sure he doesn't need a seal but a seal isn't hard to place and is there forever practically.

 

[goldendookie]

Re: Wow, so sasuke's power is borderline crap.

You actualy know the power of rinnengan? Like when you have rinnengan you can learn and master every jutsu you see? And you can control all elements. You can create your own Peins, suck souls of people, use all Tensei techniques ?

Obito will teach Sasuke how to control Rinnengan since Obito had one.

I think sasukes rinnegan is different. Sasuke would be able to push and pull things is is rinnegan was the same as nagato.

 

[goldendookie]

It's not the best thing the Rinnegan has to offer, but still, wouldn't you want to be able to "teleport"? Even if it is a short distance, it's teleporting. Come on people, TELEPORTING. It allowed him to reach Obito and Sakura... I see no problem with this jutsu.

I rather be super fast, be one with nature, extremely strong, and i would like to fly,

 

[sasukekingofuchiha]

Re: Wow, so sasuke's power is borderline crap.

His range looks about 100 meters... Is that it? Thats disappointing to be honest. The mighty rinnegan having such restrictions. He had to run a few meters before using the technique... And people think hes beating naruto with this? Lol

Have fun teleporting 100m. I'm waiting for naruto's other powers from the remaining 5 bijuu Lol, this is tooooo one sided.

Waiting on what? 5 different rasegans that don't do shit at all lmao

 

[NeutralChaos]

Re: Wow, so sasuke's power is borderline crap.

A ball which can vaporize multi moutains across thousands an thousands of meters. Sasuke's shitty jutsu can barely save his own ass Lol


A much weaker version of naruto already shat on pain rikodou powers. They wont help sasuke here. And obito is on the verge of death, naruto simpy prolonged his life.

Sasuke's susano'o can precisely sever multiple mountains and even fly. He'd cut Naruto's cute little ball into pieces.

 

[valandil988]

It's basically all the powers of the hiraishin within a short distance.

How is that not haxed??

The hiraishin is one of the most haxed Justu, Sasuke does it without a seal.

Not really, Hiraishin is very powerful, but it comes along with immensely powerful abilities such as the space-time barrier that allows the transfer of massive attacks like bijudama.

I highly doubt that Sasuke's swapping, substitution technique can match even half of the feats of Hiraishin.

Why Sasuke was suddenly able to cut up Madara with speed techniques when Minato couldn't with Hiraishin makes no sense, you can't get any faster than instantaneous. Ergo in a context of this Manga Sasuke's current feats make no sense.

Lol well, somebody's certainly full of themselves. If you're going to bash the mangaka, few will take you seriously.

And no, your idea is ridiculous, sorry to burst your bubble.

I said it in jest. I'm not being serious, but I am considering how Kishi thinks this is a "good" power-up with regards to Naruto. It by no means allows Sasuke to match Naruto....at all. In fact its like he hasn't had a power up at all.

Oh and by the way I will critique the mangaka when I see things that come off as being....well less than amazing. So far Sasuke's techniques leave a lot to be desired. If he was as great as you say then there would be no plot holes and everything would make sense.

....It doesn't.

That's neither here nor there.

It still proves even moreso if anything that Sasukes Amped up Substitution Jutsu is still not overly impressive seeing as anybody skilled enough can learn Body Flicker, which is actually more efficient than Sasukes 'Rinnegan' ability.

Kishi has not really maximized on the potential power Sasuke could have wielded (i see no meteors) and instead gave him very mild powerups (considering we are speaking about Sage of the Six Paths Chakra here).

Edit: Oh, and you spelt his name wrong. It's Shisui not Shisue.

I agree with your comment about how lack luster the "power up" is, its a joke for anyone to say that Naruto and Sasuke are equal now. They are even LESS equal than before they met the Sage.

 

[GhostProject]

A lot of people seem disappointed with Sasuke's new power? It seems unbelievably powerful to me.

In my mind, what gives a "teleportation" jutsu more strength? Options. Let's look at some mechanically "similar" techniques.

Substitution Jutsu- Strong, can only be used defensively due to highly limited application and with a nearby object. If this ability was less limited in the situations it may be applied, it would be more highly used in the manga.

FTG- Literal teleportation. Limited only by where a teleportation mark is placed and is an instantaneous jutsu, giving huge offensive and defensive options when combined with a Kunai. When in the hands of a tactically smart shinobi, it becomes an incredible all in one jutsu for battle.

Sasuke's Rinnegan/Yin Power- Literal teleportation again. Limited by range, but Sasuke can swap with ANYTHING in that range. He has been shown to be highly skilled with many types of ranged ninja tools, including a bow. He can riddle the battlefield with shuriken and kunai, and have a huge pool of defensive options as well as a large amount of offensive capabilities that the opponent will have to take into account. There are also tactical applications with moving objects that FTG cannot take advantage of due to an actual swap with the object.

Sasuke's ability is not necessarily strictly better than FTG, due to him not being able to use the object teleported to immediately and FTG looks to have a larger range than his ability. Regardless FTG is arguably one of the strongest jutsu in Naruto, and I would argue that this is better. Give a smart shinobi more options, and he becomes more dangerous because he can more quickly and fluidly be able to react to his opponent's moves. This is the strength of FTG and why Sasuke's ability will be unbelievably strong.

Sasuke can seemingly give himself so many outs and offensive combinations that it's ridiculous, until we possibly learn of its limitations.
The less limits there are on a 'teleportation' type jutsu, the stronger it becomes. Sasuke doesn't require a seal, which is huge.

All of Sasuke's used ninja tools can become his position in battle instantly within a range, and combine this with all of his other jutsu. I think this may be the strongest battle jutsu in the entire manga. It is definitely possible to be that strong, at least until we learn of more limits.

Tldr: Oops wall of text, sorry. Sasuke's jutsu gives him huge options in a battle, when combined with his intellect, can ensure he has the winning position in a fight, much like Minato does.

 

[King Of Pop]

Re: Wow, so sasuke's power is borderline crap.

Repeatedly teleport

1) gives the opponent a brief window to know he's coming
2) gives them time to react.

Someone like naruto will absolutely bully thus hindrance, and the fact that he has to swap with an object makes it so much worse. Imagine hes fighting in the konoha crater (naruto vs pain) where there's nothing? Or a plain field? The technique sucks.

you are a clown.

1 sasuke can swap an opponent into his attacks, whihc opponent can react to that? he prepares his chidori and puts you right into it, if you dont have any regenrative ability you are screwed. madara survived because of his juubi power, replace madara with other nv characters and they are screwed. you act like everyone can counter that
2. the jutsu leaves no time for reaction as sasuke can port the opponent himself, how do you react to that? why didnt madara react when sasuke put him in between him and naruto? use some sense when talking. he can do it without seals.

he doesnt have to swap anything for it, swapping is just one aspect of it. he can move himself like when he did when he dodged madaras lightning.stop looking at it from a naruto vs sasuke view and rather look at it from a general view. your hatred is retarded and borderline stupid.

 

[King Of Pop]

That's neither here nor there.

It still proves even moreso if anything that Sasukes Amped up Substitution Jutsu is still not overly impressive seeing as anybody skilled enough can learn Body Flicker, which is actually more efficient than Sasukes 'Rinnegan' ability.

Kishi has not really maximized on the potential power Sasuke could have wielded (i see no meteors) and instead gave him very mild powerups (considering we are speaking about Sage of the Six Paths Chakra here).

Edit: Oh, and you spelt his name wrong. It's Shisui not Shisue.

not sure if serious? so shunshin can swap objects, putting it into your chest? shunshin can swap an opponent into your attack? shunshin can move instantly from one place to another? what a foolish statement there

OT. what you and the other clowns in this thread saying his jutsu is shit or sucks need to understand is that once in range, sasuke can pretty much do anything to you. he doesnt need to use an object he can use the opponent himself. lets say sasuke uses enton on the ground, he can move the opponent to it without the person realising it. i mean this jutsu caught madara and kaguya off guard, it hit madara several times, later on sasuke was able to move a god like kaguya, how da hell can you downplay that??? or you just turn a blind eye and instead focus on what you want. do you know how op it is when someone isntantly move you to his attack, it means gg for 98 percent of nv. not only that, sasuke can also dodge attacks directed at him, if you throw an object towards him, rather than block it, he can just simply swap you with himself and you will end up hitting your own attack, that is haxxed.

people talk about the range which is its weakness however sasukes footspeed is fast enough to easily get in range, if you leave the range he can quickly close in like when he did to madara and then once in range he can utilize his jutsu. sasuke abilities has different aspects, and he can use it without seals. its simply trolling to downplay this and call it shit, not sure if posters here are serious, but some of the shocking post are coming from some naruto fans. smh