SM Minato vs EMS Sasuke

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Because they are different. The frog song used by jiraiya is different from the frog chant used by naruto. Did you look at my first post properly? One is immobolization, one is genjutsu. Don't compare the genjutsu one to tayuya's flute. Her one takes effect almost immediately, the frog song one takes time.

They are not going to be able to finish prep. Sasuke ems is very fast. As fast if not faster than kcm naruto lol as if he's just going to let the frogs prep the genjutsu. The only way minato can evade is by using ftg. If they are constantly teleporting from place to place, the frogs can't sync their melodies meaning they won't get to prep their attack.

Sasuke can take note of all the kunai in the surrounding area and he can stand inside his susanoo firing kagutsuchi projectiles at minato and his kunai locations if minato just spams ftg.
Frog Song and Frog Chant are the same thing,
did you even try reading the Frog Chant link you posted!?!? >_>
you're probably talking about Frog Call
but why the hell are you trying to restrict FS!? the thread maker didn't restrict it

the frogs only take time to sync melodies, once they are ready they affect the opponent like Tayuya flute genjutsu
try to use some logic for once, that would help
why would Tayuya sound travel faster than the frogs sound!?!? >_>

now EMS Sasky is as fast if not faster than KCM Nardo...
nice fan-fiction there mate
but it's whatever really, this is not even important, don't know why you brought it up


Minato doesn't need to be jumping around with the frogs
what's stopping him from...
1 - make a couple clones
2 - throw a kunai far away
3 - leave the clones fighting and FTG to the kunai
4 - prep SM and FS
5 - teleport back to the clones and start fighting himself

is this method restricted somewhere??
 

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minato skirts on this niqqa, doesn't even need sage mode. He teleports EMS Sasuke's susanoo v4 (because only rinnegan sasuke has PS) easily somewhere else. If you wanna give him PS, that gets teleported too, though.

Minato wins very easily actually
 

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minato skirts on this niqqa, doesn't even need sage mode. He teleports EMS Sasuke's susanoo v4 (because only rinnegan sasuke has PS) easily somewhere else. If you wanna give him PS, that gets teleported too, though.

Minato wins very easily actually
yes minato would just teleport sasukes soosano just like that without sasuke being able to do anything, seems legit
he does have ps in Ems reread the manga. cant believe people still say that tbh
 

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Frog Song and Frog Chant are the same thing,
did you even try reading the Frog Chant link you posted!?!? >_>
you're probably talking about Frog Call
but why the hell are you trying to restrict FS!? the thread maker didn't restrict it
Yes I'm talking about frog as opposed to .

the frogs only take time to sync melodies, once they are ready they affect the opponent like Tayuya flute genjutsu
try to use some logic for once, that would help
why would Tayuya sound travel faster than the frogs sound!?!? >_>
I didn't say it did. I just said that unlike tayuya's flute which takes , frog song does.

now EMS Sasky is as fast if not faster than KCM Nardo...
nice fan-fiction there mate
but it's whatever really, this is not even important, don't know why you brought it up
I'm saying that he's faster than minato in footspeed, so he superior reflexes ergo superior close combat skills as he was able to go with sage mode madara. Fan fiction is it?
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Please tell me how sasuke gets to sakura quicker than naruto, and why he is ahead of naruto .


Minato doesn't need to be jumping around with the frogs
what's stopping him from...
1 - make a couple clones
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2 - throw a kunai far away
Where lol, the other side of the world? Sasuke will take note of where they are. He's quite accurate in hitting targets in case you don't know. He can just as easily surround the kunai with amaterasu and the second minato teleports to his seals, he catches fire.
3 - leave the clones fighting and FTG to the kunai
4 - prep SM and FS
Because when the frogs prep their techs, they give away their location. Read the link properly.
5 - teleport back to the clones and start fighting himself

is this method restricted somewhere??
It gets countered.
 

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yes minato would just teleport sasukes soosano just like that without sasuke being able to do anything, seems legit
he does have ps in Ems reread the manga. cant believe people still say that tbh
EMS sasuke can't manifest PS without narutos chakra. unless you have scans of course.
 

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whats with people claiming that sasuke gets blitzed by minato,,
he has the susanoo to prevent himself from ALL of Minatos attacks, and he was able to track even Juubitos speed who has the speed comparable to Minato,
 

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Yes I'm talking about frog as opposed to .

I didn't say it did. I just said that unlike tayuya's flute which takes , frog song does.
good
seems you finally read the link you gave and realised you've been talking about wrong jutsu
but you ended up posting the wrong link again for frog call...

I'm saying that he's faster than minato in footspeed, so he superior reflexes ergo superior close combat skills as he was able to go with sage mode madara. Fan fiction is it?
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Please tell me how sasuke gets to sakura quicker than naruto, and why he is ahead of naruto .
there's so much wrong with your speed interpretation, that I'm not even going to bother
and all this doesn't really matter anyway, you know why??
because Sasky will need to keep susano'o up the all time, that is if he don't want risk getting tagged, by Minato or a clone

besides, FTG is instant and Minato has one the best reflexes in all manga... and now put SM on top of that...
even 4d Raikage could dodge a point blank amaterasu without SM sensing or S/T
thinking Sasky's going to kill Minato or his clones like that is just silly, really
and before you say "oh Sasky gets rid of all kunais"... there's still FTG v2... he can still teleport to clones, and vice versa... heck if he makes a mistake, he can even trade places/blows with a clone and get out of it

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great, using fodder white Zetsu as an example
1st - Minato would have no reason/need to be that close
2nd - his clones can also teleport
3rd - unlike fodder white Zetsu, Minato has good reflexes and great shunshin...

seriously, why do you guys feel like Minato needs to be close to Sasky!?!? why!?!?
there's no reason for him to be close to Sasky, he's not going to enter CQC with a god damn susano'o, like the dumb white Zetsus

Where lol, the other side of the world? Sasuke will take note of where they are. He's quite accurate in hitting targets in case you don't know. He can just as easily surround the kunai with amaterasu and the second minato teleports to his seals, he catches fire.
man, seriously....
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Because when the frogs prep their techs, they give away their location. Read the link properly.
they can give away their location, is no problem, they are with a teleporter, did you forget that!?!?
they'll be finished with prep before Sasky can cover that distance, and Sasky better have super hearing
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and you're the one that needs to read the links properly
you keep posting the wrong links and keep talking about the wrong skills >_>
go check your frog call link again...

It gets countered.
I always find it funny people saying this, only to realise later they didn't really counter anything...
 

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whats with people claiming that sasuke gets blitzed by minato,,
he has the susanoo to prevent himself from ALL of Minatos attacks, and he was able to track even Juubitos speed who has the speed comparable to Minato,
yes, and the last guy I'm debating says Sasky is faster than everyone and all, which it doesn't even matter, but he don't seem to realise that
cause Sasky will be using susano'o, if he don't risk getting tagged of course...


but the funny thing about all this is... I've been saying since the beggining that IMO Sasky has better chances of winning this, but that Minato can also win
and was just showing he could also win
but seems like some people have some problem realising that Minato can also win, even if his chances are not as great...
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Sasuke can cover his susano'o in enton to prevent Minato or his kage bunshin from tagging him, he wins high diff imo.

If Minato manages to tag susano'o though he ports it away
 

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they can give away their location, is no problem, they are with a teleporter, did you forget that!?!?
they'll be finished with prep before Sasky can cover that distance, and Sasky better have super hearing
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read his posts carefully. i think hes said a few times now that if minato is teleporting from place to place it disturbs the flow of the fs hence they wont prep it properly. i dont think you have addressed that.
 

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read his posts carefully. i think hes said a few times now that if minato is teleporting from place to place it disturbs the flow of the fs hence they wont prep it properly. i dont think you have addressed that.
but that's the point of this far teleport
to prep SM and FS without having to worry about Sasky...
can't you see how far it is?? he can just sit there to enter SM with the froggies and give them time to sync melodies before Sasky can cover that distance

and Sasky will be forced to have susano'o up because Minato's clones will be there and could tag him if he drops it
once Minato is done with prep he can just teleport back to his clones


Look...
froggies here already did the sync, they are ready
J-Man kicks the guy, jumps and uses right away
genjutsu successful...
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minato wins mid diff... sasuke pissed his pants when tobirama raised his chakra levels who is same as minato but slightly below him....
people make it like sasuke has chakra reserves to even maintain susano for 5 minutes... even in battle against power houses like jubito and madara he was droping his susano every 5 secs.... and that why got his ass kicked multiple times... he gets taged and gets slaughtered... anyway not like susano is a problem which can be teleported away...
 

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minato wins mid diff... sasuke pissed his pants when tobirama raised his chakra levels who is same as minato but slightly below him....
people make it like sasuke has chakra reserves to even maintain susano for 5 minutes... even in battle against power houses like jubito and madara he was droping his susano every 5 secs.... and that why got his ass kicked multiple times... he gets taged and gets slaughtered... anyway not like susano is a problem which can be teleported away...
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ms sasuke maintained soosano for around that limit against danzo yet ems sasuke whos eyes get no strain using soosano would not hold it up for 5 mins? not sure if serious tbh
 

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ms sasuke maintained soosano for around that limit against danzo yet ems sasuke whos eyes get no strain using soosano would not hold it up for 5 mins? not sure if serious tbh
huh! i'd have agreed if sasuke hadn't dropped his susano during danzo fight at all...
so getting EMS increases your chakra reserves??
yes it doesn't put strain but did i mention strain anywhere??
against madara and obito he dropped it many times when even his fans thought he should have used susano.... plot wasn't that... only uchiha who uses susano continuously is madara and he has highest chakra reserves in uchihas...
and as i mentioned not that it matters.. susano gets teleported away or FS ends it...
 
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