[VS] Itachi vs Jiraya

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I did win this. You quit commenting and tried to enter another debate before I called you out on it.

I'm going to get owned? Lol, you obviously didn't read my last counter. I urge you to try.

Your "counter" doesn't change anything. I offered to respond but you told me not to because you know you're about to get solo'd :rolleyes:

As for the Bunshin? He used it and then immediately showed himself afterwards. Not to mention, he used it one time only after he realized the situation called it. He'll get no such lenience when fighting Itachi because he has no intel on Amaterasu.

You kept screaming Jiraiya never uses shadow clones and when I prove you wrong you STILL try to argue that he won't use them? Even after he used them on an opponent stronger than Itachi?

If you comment another weak-ass counter I'll be glad to debunk it all tomorrow.

You actually have no clue how stupid you look to me or any third party.
 
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180 posts? Are you kidding me? Itachi wrecks Jiraiya so hard.
 

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Your "counter" doesn't change anything. I offered to respond but you told me not to because you know you're about to get solo'd :rolleyes:



You kept screaming Jiraiya never uses shadow clones and when I prove you wrong you STILL try to argue that he won't use them? Even after he used them on an opponent stronger than Itachi?

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You actually have no clue how stupid you look to me or any third party.

And so it begins.

I'll counter this and whatever else you have to post tomorrow. Logging off.
 

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How can you predict something you have never seen right under your feet? Its one thing to predict a ninja and handseals, another to predeict the earth you are standing on when he couldn't even predict the Cave pillars were aiming for him the entire time. What makes you think he can predict the ground under him with a jutsu he knows nothing about?


But Itachi did predict the pillars coming which is why he was the only one running towards Sasuke, while Sasuke was standing still:


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Even Kabuto acknowledged that:


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He doesn't need to outrun it when he can burn it away.

If he spits out fire or amaterasu to harden the ground near his feet, he will be caught on fire too. Not to mention he will already be knee-deep before he can even react. Not to mention the swamp is too big and too wet to be dried up in time.
 

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But Itachi did predict the pillars coming which is why he was the only one running to Sasuke, while Sasuke was standing still:


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Even Kabuto acknowledged that:


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You incorrectly misinterpreted that scan and convo. Kabuto knew (just like before) that Itachi would save Sasuke no matter what, so instead of wasting time trying to hit sasuke, he went after Itachi knowing he wouldn't have time to protect himself as well. If Itachi knew the pillars would attack him only, he would have simply protected himself only and both him and his bro would have been safe after that move (fact).

How about I post EMS Madara not knowing the earth under him would move instantly?

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Anything else?
 

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You incorrectly misinterpreted that scan and convo. Kabuto knew (just like before) that Itachi would save Sasuke no matter what, so instead of wasting time trying to hit sasuke, he went after Itachi knowing he wouldn't have time to protect himself as well. If Itachi knew the pillars would attack him only, he would have simply protected himself only and both him and his bro would have been safe after that move (fact).

Not really because it doesn't change the fact that Itachi reacted to the Muki Tensei, while Sasuke didn't at all as he stood still. The Susanoo hand protected Sasuke from any damage it would have done to him. Notice how Kabuto never used the technique again throughout the battle.

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How about I post EMS Madara not knowing the earth under him would move instantly?

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Anything else?

That's because Madara was completely surrounded by a slew of shinobis, where's he's trying to concentrate on fighting them all simultaneously. Madara didn't see Onoki use the jutsu, because he wasn't paying attention to him at all. Not to mention Onoki was arguably far from that vicinity as he activated the jutsu. Madara was completely outnumbered. During the 5 kage battle, Onoki failed to use that technique against him for a second round.


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So did he run away from Kakashi, Anko and Asuma (along with Kisame) already because he was afraid of them - by your logic. But we both know that isn't true, is it...

:rolleyes:

He ran when gai came to the scene, even telling kisame not to take him lightly

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but of course he was lying about not taking gai lightly :rolleyes:
 

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Itachi's a genius...I think itachi would win in a way...But jiraya is also stronh too!
 

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He ran when gai came to the scene, even telling kisame not to take him lightly

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but of course he was lying about not taking gai lightly :rolleyes:

He left the scene because Gai said he reported more reinforcements to come and fight, which inadvertently accomplished Itachi's goal of getting Danzo's attention. Since of course, the only reason why he came to the village was because he wanted to remind Danzo the promise they've made. Hiruzen died, so Itachi felt that Danzo might betray the agreement.

Oh, and both Itachi and Kisame believed the little skirmish was nonsense. Itachi saved Gai's butt, as he would have been blizted with a non-visual genjutsu coupled with Kisame's Samehada assault.


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Ooooops! Itachi can foresee underground techniques:
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Thats not foreseeing underground techniques that is sharingan precog helping him dodge an uppercut
 

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Thats not foreseeing underground techniques that is sharingan precog helping him dodge an uppercut

Which came from the ground. Itachi saw the chakra signature of Kakashi from underneath, and he knew to dodge it the second the ground cracked. Plus, that was an Earth Style jutsu, which Itachi used his 3-T precognition to counteract. He's done something similar when Sasuke's Fire Style tried to attack him from below the roof, which was supposed to cover the vision of the naked eye.


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Not really because it doesn't change the fact that Itachi reacted to the Muki Tensei, while Sasuke didn't at all as he stood still. The Susanoo hand protected Sasuke from any damage it would have done to him. Notice how Kabuto never used the technique again throughout the battle.



That's because Madara was completely surrounded by a slew of shinobis, where's he's trying to concentrate on fighting them all simultaneously. Madara didn't see Onoki use the jutsu, because he wasn't paying attention to him at all. Not to mention Onoki was arguably far from that vicinity as he activated the jutsu. Madara was completely outnumbered. During the 5 kage battle, Onoki failed to use that technique against him for a second round.


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lol

First off; There was literally no reason why Itachi wouldn't hav protected himself as well if he could have! Period! He didn't know where the Pillars would attack, fact! There is nothing to argue about. Why would Kabuto use the same jutsu twice on them when it didn't work before and Ama seems to be it's weakness? Use common sense and think for a second... Why didn't Itachi Use Tsukuyomi on sasuke a second time? Why didn't Naruto use Rasenshuriken on madara again? Etc Etc. It's called if it didn't work, use something else. Or common sense of course.

Secondly; No! If Madara could have avoid the instant rising he would have. He fought 5 kages at once and held his own, but fodders who did basically nothing was too much for him to handle? haha

Then you post Kakashi, not a earth jutsu, but kakashi trying to uppercut itachi.. lol... Show any piece of earth involved in that scan! Show any part of earth attempting to attack or do anything to him.. I'll wait..

And just so you know, the Hiding like a mole tech isn't an offensive or defensive jutsu, it is an supplementary jutsu. The ninja using the tech is the one that attacks and still has to make things happen. You literally proved nothing at all. How about we mention that he didnt even know that was a clone and kakashi was still underground huh?

Which came from the ground. Itachi saw the chakra signature of Kakashi from underneath, and he knew to dodge it the second the ground cracked. Plus, that was an Earth Style jutsu, which Itachi used his 3-T precognition to counteract. He's done something similar when Sasuke's Fire Style tried to attack him from below the roof, which was supposed to cover the vision of the naked eye.


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He already literally stated he seen Sasuke below, how does him seeing Sasuke chakra have anything to do With earth style jutsu? How is that even relevant to what is being discussed? Fire style and them talking and staring at each other equals Yomi now? Cool story, i'm out.
 

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damn this thread still going on shit

itachi mops raiya
 

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Jiraiya gets raped like in every fight he's been in.
 

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I already won this thread and proved how Itachi wins. Suck a dildo.
You didn't prove nor win shit queer, suck a what? your rooting for itachi and you're talking about sucking shit? Yea..you obviously eat ass crack.
 

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You incorrectly misinterpreted that scan and convo. Kabuto knew (just like before) that Itachi would save Sasuke no matter what, so instead of wasting time trying to hit sasuke, he went after Itachi knowing he wouldn't have time to protect himself as wel
You're completely misinterpreting the scan. Kabuto knowing that Itachi would protect Sasuke, and not himself against the muki tensei attack which threathened both of them hit Itachi only because he used his Susanno to cover Sasuke, making him unable to do anything to protect himself.

As for the Swamp debate that's going on. It's pointless, The jutsu is summoning a swamp at a location that slowly drags an entity down. It's MUD . Chakra enhanced mud as stated by the databaook. Utilizing Sharingan to see the handseals prior, and knowing it's an earth jutsu will keep Itachi on guard, and the counter is simply adding chakra to your feet
 

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It took him a whole chapter to enter Sage Mode. He simply won't have the chance against Itachi, who can use Genjutsu at all ranges, can control Jiraiya's summon, use Amaterasu and Susanoo with the Totsuka blade to seal away anything.

I also don't get why you allude to Itachi's stamina problem. Who was exhausted first, Itachi or Sasuke? Right, Sasuke was exhausted first and relied on Orochimaru's powers, while Itachi could still use Susanoo. Despite Itachi used Tsukuyomi and set a huge area on fire with his Amaterasu. He set on fire half the forest surrounding the Uchiha palace. Considering that all those flames consist of Chakra, Itachi would be able to cast a dozen of Amaterasu.

Jiraiya wouldn't even survive 2-3 usages of the MS. He simply won't counter the MS in the long run. Impossible. Itachi shits on Jiraiya. He shit on Orochimaru, he is portrayed as leagues above the Sannin.

Dozen ? is that were true then the so smart uchiha clan would only use a small amount of chakara to light somone up and let them burn to death, like the size of obito's mask eye whole and change the whole story.

Also itachi would not stand win against orchimaru in a fight to the death be cause he will come back to life.
 

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Jiraiya gets raped like in every fight he's been in.

if he didn't like when he was drunk against Orchimaru. it would have been Jiraiya defeats Orchimaru he become hokage and stay in leaf. ochimaru come back to life and wait for jiraiya die to get sasuke from leaf village. so if he won his fight it could have changed the whole story. it would be worth it to be because i wasn't with the sakura crying and the chasing sasuke thing.
 
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