''Black Pete'' Racism or not ?

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it's blackface.

how idiotic do you have to be to deny the racist intentions behind using blackface?

i want everyone who participated in this thread to do some much needed research
 

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They wouldn't even have to get rid of the holiday... just adjust it a bit.

No no no no no.

It's been this way for ages, and it should remain that way.
 

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Really? Well damn, sorry then lol. Just wanted to hear people's opinions

Nah, different people get on at different times so I don't mind repeats. As for me, you would think that they would just use black people but I think it's possible that didn't happen because they didn't want to offend blacks by offering them to be slaves in some story. To me, it seems like a possible kind act gone wrong and taken the wrong way.

Plus, I thought blackfacing was something done in plays for a while now? Or is this not the same thing? I'm not well-knowledged in these matters
 

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It's easy to say that it is racist from an outsider's perspective while people who have experienced this holiday have seen it as nothing but a pleasant family festivity.

Both sides don't understand each other. The ''Black petes'' aren't even being forced to work nor are they mistreated.

It's not like it's a bad association. ''Black Pete'' is known as a friend of children who hands out presents and candy to those who have been nice. Oh, the humanity.
 

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It's not supposed to be 'black' people, the story is that their faces are black because of the chimneys
Yeah like Ikarii said what about the lips? I mean if that's supposed to be just ashes in their faces then they need new make up artists...
 

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They wouldn't even have to get rid of the holiday... just adjust it a bit.



Then why the hair and lips... o_O


Don't ask me dude... that's the official story behind it . :|
 

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I hate generalizations please don't say black people are always *****ing about somthing.

I did say "no offense" and why the **** not? Are you ashamed of being black? Exactly, this is what i mean, if i were to ssy that white people are *****in bout stuff, they wouldn't get mad but you get so upset, or if i were to say that im a proud white man, you'd call me racist.

Im not talking shit to black people and i have black friends, i just mean to black people atake things to serious
 

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they wouldn't even have to get rid of the holiday... Just adjust it a bit.



Then why the hair and lips... o_O

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It's basically from a racist TV show in america.

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It's easy to say that it is racist from an outsider's perspective while people who have experienced this holiday have seen it as nothing but a pleasant family festivity.

Both sides don't understand each other. The ''Black petes'' aren't even being forced to work nor are they mistreated.

It's not like it's a bad association. ''Black Pete'' is known as a friend of children who hands out presents and candy to those who have been nice. Oh, the humanity.

Exactly my thoughts.. why destroy a kids holiday ? Something we grew up with...
 

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No no no no no.

It's been this way for ages, and it should remain that way.

Why when it offends a group of people for obvious reasons? lol
 

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Why when it offends a group of people for obvious reasons? lol

Well... because it's our country and our culture ? .

People should accept those when coming to live here, that so hard ? :|
 

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Well... because it's our country and our culture ? .

People should accept those when coming to live here, that so hard ? :|

saying that while white people brought black themselfs XD
 

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saying that while white people brought black themselfs XD

Yeah.. that's true, but it's still our country isn't it? lol.


It's part of the culture. Something we grew up with for ages.
 

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Well... because it's our country and our culture ? .

People should accept those when coming to live here, that so hard ? :|

So because it's your country and your culture you can go offending all different types of people, regardless of how they feel? Lol

I don't see why it's so hard to just take off the afro and remove the red lipstick. Those are the things that make it offensive in my eyes.

Some things need to be adjusted as time goes on.
 

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Yeah.. that's true, but it's still our country isn't it? lol.


It's part of the culture. Something we grew up with for ages.

dont bring em and cry later
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while you are crying about this. we should worry about the muslim's here
 

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dont bring em and cry later
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while you are crying about this. we should worry about the muslim's here

Aha you jimmy rustler.

What's wrong with the muslims ?
 

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I did say "no offense" and why the **** not? Are you ashamed of being black? Exactly, this is what i mean, if i were to ssy that white people are *****in bout stuff, they wouldn't get mad but you get so upset, or if i were to say that im a proud white man, you'd call me racist.

Im not talking shit to black people and i have black friends, i just mean to black people atake things to serious

Who Said I was black now you need to stop assuming your post is just a cluster of assumptions about me you don't even know me yet according to you I would do all of those things? anyway I'm done with this conversation.
 
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Well... because it's our country and our culture ? .

People should accept those when coming to live here, that so hard ? :|
No they shouldn't... that's like a woman having to wear a burka if she goes to a Pakistan... :|

If they are supposed to be black because of the chimneys then make them look like they have ashes in their face, doing black face is just retarded
 

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dont bring em and cry later
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while you are crying about this. we should worry about the muslim's here


You're not a Muslim rite? :0
 
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