Why are people saying that naruto has better reflexes than sasuke?

[UchihaHiromi]

Sasuke has the rinnegan as well as the sharingan which makes you see things in slow motion which> naruto sensing.
The only reason why sasuke couldnt dogde kaguya was because he doesnt have eyes at the back of his head which is sometyhing that naruto kinda have with sagemode since he see's everywhere. So my opinion is that in sensing( around you), naruto > sasuke while in reflexes, sasuke>naruto. The defination of reflexes is reacting involuntarily fast to a stimulus, Naruto had sage mode + he knew the attack was coming so he dodged it(voluntarily) and that was the only reason why because if it was pure reflexes, he wouldnt have been touch by kaguya in the beginning.

I agree with everything. You have a clear point.

Naruto had the advantage because he already saw Kaguya use that move on Sasuke. He was on his guard and expecting it.

 

[riley freeman]

To stop this argument, all I can say is that... SENSING >>>>>>> REFLECTION! And when I say S >>>> R, it only means, NARUTO is clearly and always above Sasuke. Deal with it!

/I'm done here. Time to take a nap. :gn:

go sleep, your brain clearly needs some rest lol. Sensing only>> Reflexes when its from behind but if you eye can see it, reflexes>sensing

 

[riley freeman]

Clones also uses much chakra. That's why, not all shinobis can perform Shadow Clones.

But clones dont affect users speed

Are we still discusing this, Narutos sensing ability is not tied to his speed or reflex. What would be the use of sensing if he did not have the speed to counter it. Onece he is able to counter it, then it means that his speed/ reflex is up there.
But that does not matter anyway since both he and Sasuke have the means of countering each others speed.

It was because he sensed it that he was able to react, It was because of speed that he was able to dodge. They go hand in hand and if naruto hadnt sensed it, he wouldnt have been able to excape it

 

[Hiraishin Stage 3]

sasuke has reacted to attacks from behind before

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and sasuke had seen the technique before

 

[ANiMUS]

What Sasuke does isn't really considered superior reflexes. He sees the opponent's future course of action and moves accordingly. Its like he is predicting the future and moves according to his prediction. Naruto on the other hand has something like an early warning system and he has a better body so he can respond faster.

Sasuke's eyes allows him to move earlier, while Naruto moves faster

Naruto's is omnidirectional while Sasuke's is only in his line of sight.

 

[riley freeman]

i second this ^

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Naruto has better reflexes than sasuke because of his SM and Speed U_U

No, he has better sensing than sasuke because of his SM and Speed. It had little to do with reflex

I agree with everything. You have a clear point.

Naruto had the advantage because he already saw Kaguya use that move on Sasuke. He was on his guard and expecting it.

thank you

sasuke has reacted to attacks from behind before

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and sasuke had seen the technique before

No he sensed it and reacted, it had nothing to do with reflexes

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

I read the first line of your thread......that was enough for me.
Sasuke has a high speed movement technique.
As for for overall speed and reflexes naruto beats him indefinitely.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

No, he has better sensing than sasuke because of his SM and Speed. It had little to do with reflex



thank you
No he sensed it and reacted, it had nothing to do with reflexes

Are you two retarded ?
Sensing someone and then reacting to it has EVERYTHING to do with reflexes

 

[bencoby]

Your first statement. He sensed it no denying, but would he have dodge it if he did not have good speed/reflex, he would not have been able to do anything. The sensing is just icing on the cake with the already good speed and reflex he have. So IMO the sensing should not be blown out of propotion as though without it he is slow.u

 

[xxSAGExx]

Sasuke has the rinnegan as well as the sharingan which makes you see things in slow motion which> naruto sensing.
The only reason why sasuke couldnt dogde kaguya was because he doesnt have eyes at the back of his head which is sometyhing that naruto kinda have with sagemode since he see's everywhere. So my opinion is that in sensing( around you), naruto > sasuke while in reflexes, sasuke>naruto. The defination of reflexes is reacting involuntarily fast to a stimulus, Naruto had sage mode + he knew the attack was coming so he dodged it(voluntarily) and that was the only reason why because if it was pure reflexes, he wouldnt have been touch by kaguya in the beginning.

Even if you can see the moves, if you're not fast enough to counter then seeing it is point less, this is why speedsters>Sharingan. Lee said something like that to Sasuke when they fought in part 1 remember?

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. Sasuke's speed does not increase to the point that he can evade or dodge as his eyes level up. Look at how he did against people faster than him, he couldn't read Bee's sword skills and got stabbed

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After that Bee went 3 tail cloak, Sasuke said he has no problem seeing him since he moved in a linear movement but then asked Karin to keep track of Bee's movement and tell them where he goes, this alone shows Sasuke can't read Bee's movement if he doesn't move in a straight line

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. Sasuke didn't have the reaction to stop Bee from blowing off his chest after breaking the genjutsu

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A's Lightning armor lvl 1 was enough to not be read by the Sharingan

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, When Sasuke went MS, A went lvl 2 lightning armor

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. Karin even said even if Sasuke can't read A's movement, he is still protected

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Naruto got better reaction than Sasuke the moment he got KM as shown when he dodged A at point blank range while looking at it

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. Naruto have been compared to Minato since KM then again at BM which was greater speed. Only thing is Naruto haven't completed his training in his speed so only fully used it 5x in KM and BM.

Kaguya even said Naruto was fast

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. And what makes you think Naruto was using his sensory ability? He was looking right at Kaguya and saw her put her hand in her dimension and used his reflexes to dodge. Kaguya already attacked him and Sasuke from behind them when she was absorbing their chakra so Naruto was cautious of that and Sasuke who is a strategic should have been as well so either he wasn't paying attention to what Kaguya just did to them or he doesn't have the reflexes to dodge. Sasuke seen her put her hand in her dimension and was looking at her hand when she grabbed him but didn't use his s/t jutsu to escapes

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[riley freeman]

What Sasuke does isn't really considered superior reflexes. He sees the opponent's future course of action and moves accordingly. Its like he is predicting the future and moves according to his prediction. Naruto on the other hand has something like an early warning system and he has a better body so he can respond faster.

Sasuke's eyes allows him to move earlier, while Naruto moves faster

Naruto's is omnidirectional while Sasuke's is only in his line of sight.

In sasuke vs danzo, sasuke dodged does shurinken with reflexes. In his fight with itachi,killer bee and diedara his also displayed some reflexes.
I do agree with the rest

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

No, he has better sensing than sasuke because of his SM and Speed. It had little to do with reflex

Either you are an idiot or you are mad fapboy

SM gives access to the Perceptual ability which is composed of Reflexes

Go and watch 3rd raikage vs Naruto

SM Naruto dodged 3rd Raikage's fastest and Strongest attack just by using perceptual ability

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DSM Kabuto Dodged sasuke's Susanoo arrow just because of Perceptual Ability

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Learn to read kid rather than making a useless thread

 

[riley freeman]

I read the first line of your thread......that was enough for me.
Sasuke has a high speed movement technique.
As for for overall speed and reflexes naruto beats him indefinitely.

No, show me scan of a naruto reflex skill and i'll show you two of sasuke's.

Are you two retarded ?
Sensing someone and then reacting to it has EVERYTHING to do with reflexes

Did you read his post? Because then you would have seen what i meant and please lets act our age here

Your first statement. He sensed it no denying, but would he have dodge it if he did not have good speed/reflex, he would not have been able to do anything. The sensing is just icing on the cake with the already good speed and reflex he have. So IMO the sensing should not be blown out of propotion as though without it he is slow.u

Naruto does have good speed/reflex, one of the best out there, i'm just saying that it doesnt beats sasukes just because he is shown dodging kaguya's attack

 

[Dantee]

Either you are an idiot or you are mad fapboy

SM gives access to the Perceptual ability which is composed of Reflexes

Go and watch 3rd raikage vs Naruto

SM Naruto dodged 3rd Raikage's fastest and Strongest attack just by using perceptual ability

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DSM Kabuto Dodged sasuke's Susanoo arrow just because of Perceptual Ability

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Learn to read kid rather than making a useless thread

I know you're retarded and are habitually hostile to anyone replying to you but that's basically what he was saying. You can have reflexes without being super fast.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

No, show me scan of a naruto reflex skill and i'll show you two of sasuke's.



Did you read his post? Because then you would have seen what i meant and please lets act our age here



Naruto does have good speed/reflex, one of the best out there, i'm just saying that it doesnt beats sasukes just because he is shown dodging kaguya's attack

Kaguya is currently the Strongest shinobi out there and dodging her attack which sasuke wasn't able to dodge means that naruto is faster than sasuke

 

[bencoby]

Okay, but one question do you think that Sasukes speed/reflex beat Narutos?

 

[riley freeman]

Even if you can see the moves, if you're not fast enough to counter then seeing it is point less, this is why speedsters>Sharingan. Lee said something like that to Sasuke when they fought in part 1 remember?

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. Sasuke's speed does not increase to the point that he can evade or dodge as his eyes level up. Look at how he did against people faster than him, he couldn't read Bee's sword skills and got stabbed

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After that Bee went 3 tail cloak, Sasuke said he has no problem seeing him since he moved in a linear movement but then asked Karin to keep track of Bee's movement and tell them where he goes, this alone shows Sasuke can't read Bee's movement if he doesn't move in a straight line

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. Sasuke didn't have the reaction to stop Bee from blowing off his chest after breaking the genjutsu

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A's Lightning armor lvl 1 was enough to not be read by the Sharingan

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, When Sasuke went MS, A went lvl 2 lightning armor

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. Karin even said even if Sasuke can't read A's movement, he is still protected

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Naruto got better reaction than Sasuke the moment he got KM as shown when he dodged A at point blank range while looking at it

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. Naruto have been compared to Minato since KM then again at BM which was greater speed. Only thing is Naruto haven't completed his training in his speed so only fully used it 5x in KM and BM.

Kaguya even said Naruto was fast

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. And what makes you think Naruto was using his sensory ability? He was looking right at Kaguya and saw her put her hand in her dimension and used his reflexes to dodge. Kaguya already attacked him and Sasuke from behind them when she was absorbing their chakra so Naruto was cautious of that and Sasuke who is a strategic should have been as well so either he wasn't paying attention to what Kaguya just did to them or he doesn't have the reflexes to dodge. Sasuke seen her put her hand in her dimension and was looking at her hand when she grabbed him but didn't use his s/t jutsu to escapes

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You're not getting me, i do agree that naruto is fast and all that, i'm just saying that him dodging Kaguya is not proof that his reflexes are better than sasuke's

Either you are an idiot or you are mad fapboy

SM gives access to the Perceptual ability which is composed of Reflexes

Go and watch 3rd raikage vs Naruto

SM Naruto dodged 3rd Raikage's fastest and Strongest attack just by using perceptual ability

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DSM Kabuto Dodged sasuke's Susanoo arrow just because of Perceptual Ability

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Learn to read kid rather than making a useless thread

Do you even know what did thread is about?? i doubt it. I'm not saying naruto doesnt have good reflex, i'm just saying the scan against kaguya is not proof of this

 

[Dantee]

Kaguya is currently the Strongest shinobi out there and dodging her attack which sasuke wasn't able to dodge means that naruto is faster than sasuke

No naruto can sense attacks he can't see. Sasuke can't. It doesn't imply he's faster but he can notice attAcks and react beforehand without percieving them.

 

[KingHashirama]

Sasuke has speed.. he is quicker than Naruto

Naruto has reflexes and reactions better than Sasuke to counter Sasuke's speed


Similar to how Hashirama was superior in all things, despite Tobirama being the faster one.

Reaction/Reflexes = Counter to speed.

 

[xxSAGExx]

No, show me scan of a naruto reflex skill and i'll show you two of sasuke's.



Did you read his post? Because then you would have seen what i meant and please lets act our age here



Naruto does have good speed/reflex, one of the best out there, i'm just saying that it doesnt beats sasukes just because he is shown dodging kaguya's attack

Doesn't matter about who has more reaction feats, facts are that Naruto reacted to faster ninjas than Sasuke did. Naruto reflexes were on par with Minato's as he was able to dodge A at point blank range while Sasuke lacked the speed to react to it. You're saying Naruto uses his sensory ability to dodge fast opponent yet you say Sasuke can with his eyes which was already said that even if you can see movements, if you lack the speed then you can't do anything about it. This was first said in part one and mentioned again in shipuuden. Naruto actually have better speed feats which is used with his reaction and reflexes.

Sasuke's speed does not increase at all, only his eye's ability to predict the movement and move before the opponent makes their move so Sasuke's reflexes are credited to his reflexes but to his eyes seeing the opponents movements before they make them as shown here

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. Naruto still dodged A with pure reaction and reflexes which is something only Minato has done and Minato has the best reflexes and reaction (don't comment about Edo Minato when it's fact that edo's aren't as strong as when they're alive)