[Discussion] A clever foreshadow

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Maybe I'm missing something but I don't quite get it 0_o.

I get that the god tree looks like Konan's paper tree, but are you saying that when Nagato said, "This is what you must face", you believe its a foreshadowing that Naruto would have to face the God Tree later on? It being similar in shape to the paper tree?
I dont get it either o_O
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They were hiding in a tree, Nagato was giving him a speech and then that somehow links to 10 tails tree. Ok bro ok. =D
 

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Wow nice find...
Thank you =D
I dont get it either o_O
=D

They were hiding in a tree, Nagato was giving him a speech and then that somehow links to 10 tails tree. Ok bro ok. =D
Lol I already answered to that guy but it seems that either you still don't get or you're just too lazy to read. In any case, check what I wrote below me.
About Nagato I meant the phrase: "Maybe this is the hand of a real god" and at that moment it shows the paper tree.
You see a tree made of paper, the moment he talks about the possibility of a god's doing it shows again that tree and about 200 chapters later a chapter has the title "god tree" and it's revealed that Juubi which was regarded as a god, was actually a tree, how many more connections do you want?:mad:_@:
 

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Thank you =D

Lol I already answered to that guy but it seems that either you still don't get or you're just too lazy to read. In any case, check what I wrote below me.


You see a tree made of paper, the moment he talks about the possibility of a god's doing it shows again that tree and about 200 chapters later a chapter has the title "god tree" and it's revealed that Juubi which was regarded as a god, was actually a tree, how many more connections do you want?:mad:_@:
I watched the anime too.
Its just meant to show that the paper tree is falling apart.
I doubt its foreshadowing but whatever.

"Woooow nice find brooo" =D
 

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I watched the anime too.
Its just meant to show that the paper tree is falling apart.
I doubt its foreshadowing but whatever.

"Woooow nice find brooo" =D
Lol it's not like I beg you to get some reputation lol, the fact though that so many people did acknowedge this as a foreshadow must be that I was correct, unless you think that all of them were idiots.
 

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About Nagato I meant the phrase: "Maybe this is the hand of a real god" and at that moment it shows the paper tree.
Aww I get it now. Still, the god tree isn't an actual god to what Nagato was referring. I see the connection and its a good observation, but I find the connection to be a stretch.
 

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Lol that not forshadowing
Lol it is if you have a little brain. Back then, Nagato says that maybe this was the hand of a real god and at that time he talks we see the paper tree getting scattered. At that time Nagato considered himself as a god, a fake one and by coincidence he was waiting into a fake tree which symbolises the fake god in contrast to the real one which is the Shinju. In that way it did foreshadow Juubi's true form since Juubi was also regarded as god and then we learned that in actuality it was a tree all along.
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As for you minamoto, with your level of intelligence I really didn't expect anything more so I pass you by.
 

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Here's one

In an early one shot, long before we knew about Hagoromo's transmigrating sons' names, Sasuke is shown with a representation of a thunder god carrying a distinctive weapon. The thunder god is Indra and the weapon is called Vajra as you can tell from the Wikipedia link below.

When Sasuke is eventually recognised by Hagoromo as the host of Indra's transmigrating soul there is an image in the background showing the same weapon but using a different design, this time carried by a different representation of Indra:

Background on Vajra and Indra (NB different designs for the same weapon from different cultures)



Links (Look at the corresponding weapons + imagery for the thunder god Indra)

 

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Lol it is if you have a little brain. Back then, Nagato says that maybe this was the hand of a real god and at that time he talks we see the paper tree getting scattered. At that time Nagato considered himself as a god, a fake one and by coincidence he was waiting into a fake tree which symbolises the fake god in contrast to the real one which is the Shinju. In that way it did foreshadow Juubi's true form since Juubi was also regarded as god and then we learned that in actuality it was a tree all along.

As for you minamoto, with your level of intelligence I really didn't expect anything more so I pass you by.
I think your correlation of Nagato's fakeness as a god, and the god tree is interesting. Yet, you missed the point of the facts that you gave. In all the facts that you showed along with the statement, it is about Naruto and the book that Jiraya wrote. Nagato was saying that Naruto and the book, and the fact that Naruto was the hero of the book along with his (Nagato) own role may be the work of the hands of a real god.

This is absolutely true, and the god Nagato was talking about has nothing to do with the god tree. Even after the details that black zetsu gave, the god tree may not be a god tree, but a holy tree as other people mentioned. In addition, after careful reading of the manga, you will notice that Kishi actually introduced the idea of the existence of a god which is not the Shinju. The greatest evidence of this is that Jiraya and Haogoromo received the prophecy from the toads that there will come a savior of humanity. This tell us that Hagoromo is not god, and the fact that Hagoromo who received the prophecy fought against the Shinju/Juubi/Kaguya shows that Shinju is not also a god. There is a real god out there who is giving prophecy to the toad Gammamaru. The holy tree is certainly a creation of that god.
 

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What I find interesting in the panel from 449 is the quote "The book and you...Its like someone...set this all up." Yes, quite an interesting little panel , especially in light of the revelations in chapter 681.
 

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I think your correlation of Nagato's fakeness as a god, and the god tree is interesting. Yet, you missed the point of the facts that you gave. In all the facts that you showed along with the statement, it is about Naruto and the book that Jiraya wrote. Nagato was saying that Naruto and the book, and the fact that Naruto was the hero of the book along with his (Nagato) own role may be the work of the hands of a real god.

This is absolutely true, and the god Nagato was talking about has nothing to do with the god tree. Even after the details that black zetsu gave, the god tree may not be a god tree, but a holy tree as other people mentioned. In addition, after careful reading of the manga, you will notice that Kishi actually introduced the idea of the existence of a god which is not the Shinju. The greatest evidence of this is that Jiraya and Haogoromo received the prophecy from the toads that there will come a savior of humanity. This tell us that Hagoromo is not god, and the fact that Hagoromo who received the prophecy fought against the Shinju/Juubi/Kaguya shows that Shinju is not also a god. There is a real god out there who is giving prophecy to the toad Gammamaru. The holy tree is certainly a creation of that god.
Even if Shinju is not actually a god, it was still nonetheless introduced as such, even its chapter was named as " God tree". That alone is still not something simply to be passed by. Regardless of that though, why did you bring up Hagoromo? I've never stated that he was a god. Last but least, what I specifically stated was that this chapter was a foreshadow of Shinju's real nature, not just a foreshadow of the existence of a god and the reason for that is first that paper tree can be compared to Shinju's true form aka the tree and secondly when Nagato states "maybe that was a work of a real god", we see the tree slowly falling down which also coincides with how the shinju was regarded as a god.

What I find interesting in the panel from 449 is the quote "The book and you...Its like someone...set this all up." Yes, quite an interesting little panel , especially in light of the revelations in chapter 681.
Indeed, I haven't thought of this in that way but there might be indeed some more about it.

kudos to you

very nice find
Thanks man :)
You really bumped a 3 month old thread just to say that?
What an assclown. Bumping this thread just to spout this non sense.
I perfectly agree with you guys.
 
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