All these villains have been puppets!

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Now you're just excluding points to make it more convenient for the characters.


Zabuza took orders from Gato. He was his lackey, not his own man. He only tried to kill him when he failed.

Gaara went to the chunin exam and participated in all the trials. He also followed Baki's instructions

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Hidan was following his own goal which so happened to coincide with Akatsuki's goals at the time. He killed people and fulfilled his goals by following orders.

Kakuzu got fulfilled his goals by making money from following Akatsuki's orders. How is that different from Zabuza?


The difference between them and someone like Obito was that Obito was scammed and manipulated into a puppet.

Hidan didn't care as long as he got what he wanted.

Deidara was forced into the group, Kakuzu was not.

There's a difference.

I really don't recall this orders he took, I'm not ignoring them

So because Garra was part of the exams, he was taking his fathers orders? He went there for blood, find strong opponents, etc.

If you want to consider them being their own man, so be it. I see them as part of a organization which them had to take orders, from a leader.
 

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I really don't recall this orders he took, I'm not ignoring them

So because Garra was part of the exams, he was taking his fathers orders? He went there for blood, find strong opponents, etc.

If you want to consider them being their own man, so be it. I see them as part of a organization which them had to take orders, from a leader.

Which is exactly what Zabuza did. But you're saying because he turned against Gato the last second, that he wasn't a puppet?

Nagato did the same thing


The only character that really had his own agenda was Orochimaru.
 

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Which is exactly what Zabuza did. But you're saying because he turned against Gato the last second, that he wasn't a puppet?

Nagato did the same thing


The only character that really had his own agenda was Orochimaru.

Ok, well I guess he takes the cake himself
 

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So far part 2 Naruto has had multiple villains and they've all been puppets or controlled by another.

All those part of akatsuki were followers.
Obito was Madara's puppet
Madara was fooled from day one, a puppet to his own "will"
Nagato is debatable, but I think Obitio manipulated him at times.

Part 1 had greater villains.

Zabuzu was his own man and called his own shots
Garra wasn't for taking orders and was a beast
Orochimaru well his character speaks for itself.

While they weren't as powerful, they were wayyy more ruthless and had worse attitudes. They defined someone you wouldn't want to approach, not because of power but because their drive to kill.

Gaara was possessed by a racoon demon, basically its puppet.
Zabuza was just Gato's OP ass henchman.

Orochimaru, Hidan, and Kakuzu on the other hand are OG villains.
 

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I believe Zabuza one remarked that Ninja are just meant to be tools, he even said he used Haku, while he was used by Gato.
 

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Madara is the only one not be manipulated.​
 
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