USA and gun rights

[xPHARAOHx]

Due to the latest murder rampage here in the US, I am once again faced with this question. Should American citizens have the right to own a gun? To be quite honest a few years ago I'd say without hesitation, of course, why not. Though if people like Elliot Rogers have no problem getting ahold of a gun legally, than I have to question this law.

It would seem that we'd be more focused on protecting our citizens here in America by making gun owners go through various background, and mental illness checks. I honestly think the reason that our government hasn't made this a law yet is because we'd loose so much money. The NRA probably pays off well known politicians to speak on their behalf. If America decided to put laws into effect that made it harder to obtain fire arms, there would probably be a whole lot less people owning them, especially because such a high percentage of Americans are on some sort of medication for depression, or some sort of other psycho-active substance that effects our serotonin receptors.

I belive the way our government allows doctors to feed it's citizens with these meds also causes mental problems. I can tell you from my first hand experiences that I've been on some of these SSRI's and they actually make you even more psychotic, and suicidal. This in no way gives somebody the excuse to go shooting up innocent victims though.

I can say that I no longer take medication for depression, and I'm glad I don't. America hands out guns, and psych meds like a parent rewarding their child for good behavior with candy.

 

[Professor Swagger]

Due to the latest murder rampage here in the US, I am once again faced with this question. Should American citizens have the right to own a gun? To be quite honest a few years ago I'd say without hesitation, of course, why not. Though if people like Elliot Rogers have no problem getting ahold of a gun legally, than I have to question this law.

It would seem that we'd be more focused on protecting our citizens here in America by making gun owners go through various background, and mental illness checks. I honestly think the reason that our government hasn't made this a law yet is because we'd loose so much money. The NRA probably pays off well known politicians to speak on their behalf. If America decided to put laws into effect that made it harder to obtain fire arms, there would probably be a whole lot less people owning them, especially because such a high percentage of Americans are on some sort of medication for depression, or some sort of other psycho-active substance that effects our serotonin receptors.

I belive the way our government allows doctors to feed it's citizens with these meds also causes mental problems. I can tell you from my first hand experiences that I've been on some of these SSRI's and they actually make you even more psychotic, and suicidal. This in no way gives somebody the excuse to go shooting up innocent victims though.

I can say that I no longer take medication for depression, and I'm glad I don't. America hands out guns, and psych meds like a parent rewarding their child for good behavior with candy.

If you would read the Second Amendment, you wouldn't even be posting this Thread.​

 

[Blunt]

I think you shouldn't bring up the subject at all, at least on a website like this.

 

[Yanks]

If you would read the First Amendment, you wouldn't even be posting this Thread.​

I think you mean the 2nd amendment

 

[xPHARAOHx]

If you would read the Second Amendment, you wouldn't even be posting this Thread.​

You mean the right to free speech?

 

[The Necromancer]

If you would read the Second Amendment, you wouldn't even be posting this Thread.​

The second amendment gives us the right, it doesn't say we deserve it, which is the point of the thread.

 

[Tingun]

I think you mean the 2nd amendment

lmao...

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[xPHARAOHx]

I think you shouldn't bring up the subject at all, at least on a website like this.

There are some pretty sophisticated people on this site, who's opinions I respect. Though the number of people who's opinion I don't respect outweighs them, I find their thoughts worth the time and effort to post this thread.

 

[Professor Swagger]

I think you mean the 2nd amendment

I edited it, chill out.​

 

[TheHokage]

Well to be honest his father was like a rich movie assistant director wasn't he or something like that? Maybe it was his father's. But it was still sick as.

Really when it all comes down to it...the problem isn't guns now I'm not condoning the act of shooting someone nor do I approve of guns however if people like this kid are determined they would have found away to kill anyway. I think stricter rules need to be applied to guns but banned completely...no, I don't even live in america however even over here in the United Kingdom people will always find away to kill people if they want to.

The person who is at fault here is Elliot and possibly his family for not noticing the signs of his mental problems.

 

[Bling Kai]

I think allowing ANYONE to own a gun is a foolish idea. What if said gun owner has anger problems and decides to shoot someone? Guns should be illegal objects to own.

 

[sasukesworld]

I didn't read everything

but the gun rights are too weak, so many bad things could've been prevented if the gun rights were tighten up U_U

not everyone should be allowed to own a gun, and children shouldn't have guns (like most of the people)

 

[Bling Kai]

There are some pretty sophisticated people on this site, who's opinions I respect. Though the number of people who's opinion I don't respect outweighs them, I find their thoughts worth the time and effort to post this thread.

Why thank you man I respect your opinion as well.

 

[Siddy~]

Well, over here in Canada .. there's a pretty long process you have to go through to be able to own a gun. I think the States should just create the same policy we have here. u_u

 

[The Rower]

A law against weapons doesn't seem realistic to me(against it or not) You don't simply make a law where milions of people have to give away there guns...its become part of a culture...

 

[Blunt]

There are some pretty sophisticated people on this site, who's opinions I respect. Though the number of people who's opinion I don't respect outweighs them, I find there's thoughts worth the time and effort to post this thread.

I see what you are saying and agree, though you already obviously know why I have said that to you.

I think allowing ANYONE to own a gun is a foolish idea. What if said gun owner has anger problems and decides to shoot someone? Guns should be illegal objects to own.

I really hope you aren't serious. If this is your honest opinion, I feel bad for you. You are the epitome of ignorance.

 

[xPHARAOHx]

I edited as soon as I realized I said First.​

The fact that you don't even know your amendments, makes your opinion inadequate to me. Of course the second allows "the right to bear arms", but that doesn't mean it's right. That's like saying our government has no problems. It's a known fact that in places like the UK where obtaining a gun is hard enough, there are a whole lot less homocide a via guns.

 

[Professor Swagger]

The fact that you don't even know your amendments, makes your opinion inadequate to me. Of course the second allows "the right to bear arms", but that doesn't mean it's right. That's like saying our government has no problems. It's a known fact that in places like the UK where obtaining a gun is hard enough, there are a whole lot less homocide a via guns.

Stopped reading after that.
I was thinking First Hokage when I posted this, but anyway, If I can edit it and put the right one, how do you come to the conclusion that I don't know my amendments?​

 

[Tingun]

Well, yes, if civilian gun ownership was outlawed then far too many complications would be caused. Not only that, but those who still retain their access to firearms would be empowered even more. There's also the problem of people being threatened by wildlife, pets, and other animals that are aggressive and could maim or kill a human.

As you've stated, I believed regulation is the best route to take in order move towards a more secure and incident free public interface.

On another note, at a conference at an earlier date this year it was proposed to convert civilian guns to some kind of electrical platform in order for the law enforcement and other authorities to create virtually "gun free" zones or to neutralize the weapons via remote action.

I'm not experience in the working of firearms of things of that sort beyond basic mechanics, so I am not entirely sure if this would be an effective method to be put in place. I would instead recommend something else if the firearms them selves were being altered.

 

[xPHARAOHx]

Well to be honest his father was like a rich movie assistant director wasn't he or something like that? Maybe it was his father's. But it was still sick as.

Really when it all comes down to it...the problem isn't guns now I'm not condoning the act of shooting someone nor do I approve of guns however if people like this kid are determined they would have found away to kill anyway. I think stricter rules need to be applied to guns but banned completely...no, I don't even live in america however even over here in the United Kingdom people will always find away to kill people if they want to.

The person who is at fault here is Elliot and possibly his family for not noticing the signs of his mental problems.

The mother of this man-child alerted the police of his plot to kill two weeks prior to him doing so. He was posting revenge videos on youtube about it. The police knocked on his door talked to him and said that "he seems like a nice young man", had they gone further and would've checked his house they would've found evidence to detain him, wether it be to a psyche ward, or jail.