Why Madara might still eat the fruit

[Lightbringer]

So I know from recent chapters, many people believe that Madara might become "one" with Kaguya or that Kaguya might even take control over Madara.

Well this is my theory on a third option Madara has which involves the Shinju Fruit. It involves much speculation.

To start off, I think Madara knows the risks or at least is aware of Kaguya.

It would be kind of odd for Madara to be reluctant to merge with a presence he just appeared to him out of nowhere without a second thought.

So my only assumption is that maybe he already knew about Kaguya.

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Before, I have made a thread detailing how I believed Kaguya to be the new Juubi.

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To summarize that thread.
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There has been a God Tree before Kaguya.

Kaguya ate the God Tree's fruit, which contained all of its chakra and the Old God Tree died because of this.

The Fruit acts as a seed for the God Tree to rise anew, like a phoenix from its ashes.


Kaguya ate the "Seed" and gained all of the God Tree's Power. Eventually she became consumed and the God Tree was reborn within her.

Because of this, the God Tree took revenge by making Kaguya the Juubi which lead to her sons having to defeat her.
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-This would explain why Hagoromo didn't say much about her and tried to avoid the topic.

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-It would also explain why the most powerful person who ever lived disappeared.

-It would also explain why she was first known as "The Rabbit Goddess" and then became feared as a "Demon"

-It is no coincidence that the Juubi first appeared only after Kaguya at the Fruit

-It would explain why Kaguya didn't fight the Juubi herself if she was more powerful than Hagoromo

-The Gedo Mazou, the Shell of the Juubi, has a human form. Meaning that was the vessel for the Juubi(Kaguya)









So why would Madara want the fruit then?


Well the reason being because by eating the fruit, the God Tree would be reborn within him and Kaguya's influence would vanish completely.

He would have total control over the Juubi's power without worrying that Kaguya might take over.

The Old God Tree would die, which is Kaguya, and Madara would become the new vessel for Shinju.

 

[BLAZE]

nice thread
i agree with most

 

[Angelic.]

interesting. is kaguyas soul or concious inside shinju? if it is she wouldnt want that. if its the shinju itself then it wouldnt matter to it.

 

[UCE]

How cool.

 

[ROHAN]

Amazing Theory.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Well personally I don't think he knows about a new fruit emerging as an end result of Mugen Tsukuyomi, he doesn't even know its significance (Ch.646: "I don't know what significance it holds, but according to legend that Fruit must not be touched") he thinks that the Dream World is the end all-be all of Infinite Tsukuyomi, what he doesn't know is that a new a Fruit is created when all Chakra becomes one, that is probably Kaguya's hidden motive: to consume the Fruit like she did before, that is why there are things kept hidden even to Madara, one of them is that Kaguya is the Shinju (only when she spoke to him did he realize this)

Let us not forget that Infinite Tsukuyomi is originally Kaguya's plan, she is the great manipulator of these events, and she will probably overtake Madara.

 

[its a plot]

Good, but i think this might not be the case.

 

[Angelic.]

yea i agree with sdo. the moon has always been significantly shown like an overbearing presence. its only a matter of time. hehehe
madara doesnt even know about transmigrations either. hes lost

 

[The Amazing Spider Man]

Awesome theory! (someone stole the word amazing... I should really get that copyrighted) but anyways this theory seems highly possible being that Madara isn't the type to let her pull the strings.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

yea i agree with sdo. the moon has always been significantly shown like an overbearing presence. its only a matter of time. hehehe
madara doesnt even know about transmigrations either. hes lost

That too, he doesn't even know he, like Sasuke, is Indra's transmigrant (Madara: "There must be something more than blood that relates him to me")

 

[Lightbringer]

Well personally I don't think he knows about a new fruit emerging as an end result of Mugen Tsukuyomi, he doesn't even know its significance (Ch.646: "I don't know what significance it holds, but according to legend that Fruit must not be touched") he thinks that the Dream World is the end all-be all of Infinite Tsukuyomi, what he doesn't know is that a new a Fruit is created when all Chakra becomes one, that is probably Kaguya's hidden motive: to consume the Fruit like she did before, that is why there are things kept hidden even to Madara, one of them is that Kaguya is the Shinju (only when she spoke to him did he realize this)

Let us not forget that Infinite Tsukuyomi is originally Kaguya's plan, she is the great manipulator of these events, and she will probably overtake Madara.

I thought the plan for Infinite Tsukuyomi was from the Tablet, not Kaguya.

I don't think he would simply let go of the fact that Kaguya became the strongest person in history from eating the fruit either

 

[Anish Chakraborty]

your theory is quite convincing... even if this may not happen its great!!

 

[Seventh Sama]

Highly doubtful. No way is kishi going to "kill" off kaguya like that..

 

[Scryed]

I thought the plan for Infinite Tsukuyomi was from the Tablet, not Kaguya.

I don't think he would simply let go of the fact that Kaguya became the strongest person in history from eating the fruit either

The Sage was the one who originally made that tablet.

He could've written about IT to try to prevent history from repeating itself. Just like he wrote about what other things in an attempt to motivate others not to follow that path.


Your theory is a good one too! Although I personally believe that she will emerge instead of the fruit. The Tale of the Bamboo Cutter!

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I thought the plan for Infinite Tsukuyomi was from the Tablet, not Kaguya.

I don't think he would simply let go of the fact that Kaguya became the strongest person in history from eating the fruit either

That is the anomaly: Why is the Tablet so instructive to activate Mugen Tsukuyomi? I don't think it stretches credulity that Kaguya's essence lingered in the world even when the Gedo Mazo was sealed in the Moon, and that she secretly influenced Madara's fall into darkness (remember the "special chakra" in Uchiha's brains that activates the Sharingan when they fall into despair, that is the Juubi's Chakra) or probably even more, corrupted the message of the Tablet.

Anyways, like most antagonists in this Manga, Madara has been setup for redemption, and what better plot vehicle for him to repent other than to be disillusioned: That he, the great manipulator, is himself being manipulated, and it's a common trope in literature that ancient evil entities are never contented to take the backseat and let another antagonist take the lead, she will overtake him eventually.

 

[uchiha asuku aliyu]

Awesome theory bro but madara is to confused and lost kaguya will definatley get to him though I prefer madara as the villian

 

[Lightbringer]

That is the anomaly: Why is the Tablet so instructive to activate Mugen Tsukuyomi? I don't think it stretches credulity that Kaguya's essence lingered in the world even when the Gedo Mazo was sealed in the Moon, and that she secretly influenced Madara's fall into darkness (remember the "special chakra" in Uchiha's brains that activates the Sharingan when they fall into despair, that is the Juubi's Chakra) or probably even more, corrupted the message of the Tablet.

Anyways, like most antagonists in this Manga, Madara has been setup for redemption, and what better plot vehicle for him to repent other than to be disillusioned: That he, the great manipulator, is himself being manipulated, and it's a common trope in literature that ancient evil entities are never contented to take the backseat and let another antagonist take the lead, she will overtake him eventually.

It would just be overplayed in my eyes.

Having another "Manipulator of the Manipulator"


Nagato was manipulated by Obito and he sought redemption

Obito was manipulated by Madara and he also sought redemption

Madara being manipulated and looking for redemption would just be redundant.


Madara was prevalent throughout most of the series. Even if Obito was pretending to be him, it was still his person and his name.

Having him all of a sudden be replaced with a character recently introduced would be aggravating.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

And Kishimoto will not put the most powerful and the most evil character in Narutoverse in the playing field only for her to easily be shafted by a subservient antagonist (Madara)

 

[Filo]

Well personally I don't think he knows about a new fruit emerging as an end result of Mugen Tsukuyomi, he doesn't even know its significance (Ch.646: "I don't know what significance it holds, but according to legend that Fruit must not be touched") he thinks that the Dream World is the end all-be all of Infinite Tsukuyomi, what he doesn't know is that a new a Fruit is created when all Chakra becomes one, that is probably Kaguya's hidden motive: to consume the Fruit like she did before, that is why there are things kept hidden even to Madara, one of them is that Kaguya is the Shinju (only when she spoke to him did he realize this)

Let us not forget that Infinite Tsukuyomi is originally Kaguya's plan, she is the great manipulator of these events, and she will probably overtake Madara.

yes Sir Derp Obito has said it all

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

It would just be overplayed in my eyes.

Having another "Manipulator of the Manipulator"


Nagato was manipulated by Obito and he sought redemption

Obito was manipulated by Madara and he also sought redemption

Madara being manipulated and looking for redemption would just be redundant.

It is not redundancy, but consistency, you see, Madara is no different from Nagato or Obito, they were originally good-hearted people who feel into darkness because of tragedy, ultimately Nagato and Obito got disillusioned in their false paths and eventually repented, Madara will be no different.