[Theory] Madara won't be sealed in the treasured tools.

[Byron123]

That's right. This, guys, is an extremely obvious solution and that's why Kishi exactly chose to present it as a possibility. If you think about it, Kishi likes to point out towards one very specific possibility only so that he can completely erase it afterwards.


An example of that is Sasuke. Everyone thought that Naruto would be the one who would make him to return to the village exactly because that was the direction towards which Kishi was pointing during the whole manga. Turns out that he in fact chose on his own the path that he would follow.

A second example of a similar situation and way more obvious than that it is that everyone expected for Minato to give Naruto the other half of Kurama's chakra so he can become "complete". Neither that happened as half of Kurama was absorbed by madara.

I'm sure there are other similar cases but I'm just to lazy to think about them.


Conclusion: The treasured tools is a solution that Kishi chose to present it because it sounds ideal but he only does that because he wants to lead us, again, to a wrong path. I can guarantee that madara won't be sealed, at least not that way, their role is to misguide the readers in order for Kishi to bring the twist he desires. Do you think that the end of the series, the defeat of the strongest guy in it, would be done in a way that has been predicted by everyone?

 

[saw2097]

I agree, I think they will try it and fail (there are several people sealed inside the tools and Darui wanted to get them out).

 

[Byron123]

I agree, I think they will try it and fail (there are several people sealed inside the tools and Darui wanted to get them out).

Besides, I'm not even sure if they can handle that much chakra to begin with.

 

[Gerkak]

Besides, I'm not even sure if they can handle that much chakra to begin with.

This^^^. I agree. I don't think they can seal madara.

 

[Draven]

well there is one thought that comes to mind the pot was used to seal away the 8tails during a rampage so what if the pot was used to absorb some of the tailed beasts from Madara to weaken him??

we have seen obito take pieces of the tailed beasts out of madara in the past so whats to say since the tailed beasts dont want to be part of madara that someone uses the pot calls out the tailed beasts name and gets pulled into the pot

 

[DaileyM]

I thought it was pretty obvious, Anyone who thinks that Madara will be defeated that way is crazy :|

 

[ANiMUS]

That's right. This, guys, is an extremely obvious solution and that's why Kishi exactly chose to present it as a possibility. If you think about it, Kishi likes to point out towards one very specific possibility only so that he can completely erase it afterwards.


An example of that is Sasuke. Everyone thought that Naruto would be the one who would make him to return to the village exactly because that was the direction towards which Kishi was pointing during the whole manga. Turns out that he in fact chose on his own the path that he would follow.

A second example of a similar situation and way more obvious than that it is that everyone expected for Minato to give Naruto the other half of Kurama's chakra so he can become "complete". Neither that happened as half of Kurama was absorbed by madara.

I'm sure there are other similar cases but I'm just to lazy to think about them.


Conclusion: The treasured tools is a solution that Kishi chose to present it because it sounds ideal but he only does that because he wants to lead us, again, to a wrong path. I can guarantee that madara won't be sealed, at least not that way, their role is to misguide the readers in order for Kishi to bring the twist he desires. Do you think that the end of the series, the defeat of the strongest guy in it, would be done in a way that has been predicted by everyone?

Sorry, I didn't read all of it, but those Sage tools will definitely come in to use. Some of Madara's DNA has already been taken as prep

 

[NaruSasuRival]

That's right. This, guys, is an extremely obvious solution and that's why Kishi exactly chose to present it as a possibility. If you think about it, Kishi likes to point out towards one very specific possibility only so that he can completely erase it afterwards.


An example of that is Sasuke. Everyone thought that Naruto would be the one who would make him to return to the village exactly because that was the direction towards which Kishi was pointing during the whole manga. Turns out that he in fact chose on his own the path that he would follow.

A second example of a similar situation and way more obvious than that it is that everyone expected for Minato to give Naruto the other half of Kurama's chakra so he can become "complete". Neither that happened as half of Kurama was absorbed by madara.

I'm sure there are other similar cases but I'm just to lazy to think about them.


Conclusion: The treasured tools is a solution that Kishi chose to present it because it sounds ideal but he only does that because he wants to lead us, again, to a wrong path. I can guarantee that madara won't be sealed, at least not that way, their role is to misguide the readers in order for Kishi to bring the twist he desires. Do you think that the end of the series, the defeat of the strongest guy in it, would be done in a way that has been predicted by everyone?

Though, I am thinking the same conclusion as you, I think the logic you used is flawed. An objective reading will show that every obvious thing given by Kishi was also respected in the plot, even if it was slightly modified. For example:

1. Sasuke did not choose his own path, and saying that he did is not true. A misinterpretation of the manga is that Naruto was bent on changing Sasuke, and Sasuke is always doing what pleases him. Well, this is false. First, Sasuke left Konoha because of Naruto's growth which revealed his lack of progress. Then, Naruto left a mark in Sasuke's heart at VOTE. This led Sasuke to refuse to followed the path of a normal Uchiha - that is to kill your friend for power (MS). Against Killer Bee, Sasuke change of heart during the battle was purely driven by Naruto's behavior and principles. Sasuke took Itachi's eyes because of Naruto, and he came out of the hiddeout because of Naruto. Finally, it is because of Naruto's behavior and the discussion Sasuke had with Itachi, that Sasuke went for a cross-examination. Clearly, Sasuke has changed because of Naruto alone. The reason is that even Itachi's late behavior was driven by Naruto. Finally, I think you are concluding too fast because Sasuke will be changed definitely by Naruto. He has not changed yet because his path is certainly not the path of peace as of now.

2. On Minato giving half Kyuubi to Naruto, Minato did exactly what the fandom was thinking. Zetsu's interposition did not cancell the prediction. Besides, Obito gave the dark Kyuubi to Naruto, and unlike what people think, Naruto has both half of Kyuubi right now. Madara got Yang Kyuubi, but Naruto also have Yang Kyuubi. Naruto's Kyuubi is full, though Kishi did not explain how Naruto got the other Kyuubi half. In fact, you should know that Madara also took all the other beast, yet Naruto has all of them.

3. The treasure tool may or may not defeat Madara, but it will be a choice of Kishi.

 

[LogicnoJutsu]

Obitos gonna banish him to the Double Kamui dimension

 

[Byron123]

Though, I am thinking the same conclusion as you, I think the logic you used is flawed. An objective reading will show that every obvious thing given by Kishi was also respected in the plot, even if it was slightly modified. For example:

1. Sasuke did not choose his own path, and saying that he did is not true. A misinterpretation of the manga is that Naruto was bent on changing Sasuke, and Sasuke is always doing what pleases him. Well, this is false. First, Sasuke left Konoha because of Naruto's growth which revealed his lack of progress. Then, Naruto left a mark in Sasuke's heart at VOTE. This led Sasuke to refuse to followed the path of a normal Uchiha - that is to kill your friend for power (MS). Against Killer Bee, Sasuke change of heart during the battle was purely driven by Naruto's behavior and principles. Sasuke took Itachi's eyes because of Naruto, and he came out of the hiddeout because of Naruto. Finally, it is because of Naruto's behavior and the discussion Sasuke had with Itachi, that Sasuke went for a cross-examination. Clearly, Sasuke has changed because of Naruto alone. The reason is that even Itachi's late behavior was driven by Naruto. Finally, I think you are concluding too fast because Sasuke will be changed definitely by Naruto. He has not changed yet because his path is certainly not the path of peace as of now.

2. On Minato giving half Kyuubi to Naruto, Minato did exactly what the fandom was thinking. Zetsu's interposition did not cancell the prediction. Besides, Obito gave the dark Kyuubi to Naruto, and unlike what people think, Naruto has both half of Kyuubi right now. Madara got Yang Kyuubi, but Naruto also have Yang Kyuubi. Naruto's Kyuubi is full, though Kishi did not explain how Naruto got the other Kyuubi half. In fact, you should know that Madara also took all the other beast, yet Naruto has all of them.

3. The treasure tool may or may not defeat Madara, but it will be a choice of Kishi.

1. Sasuke didn't have to revive the kages to hear their side of the story if he didn't want it genuinely and what I'm trying to say is everyone thoguht that they would see a cliche of naruto changing his beliefs with a fight or something similar. What you said was done in way more indirective ways, not what every person expected.

2. Naruto does not have the complete Kurama inside of him, he has the one part as you said and some of the other. Just because they both appeared in his mind that doesn't change things, the other beasts also appear in him, that doesn't mena that he has the full chakra of all of them. And therefore is not as what fandom expected. Th fandom expected Naruto to have already half of Kurama and
Minato to complete that.

3.They might have a part in it but they definetely won't be a decisive factor.

 

[Byron123]

well there is one thought that comes to mind the pot was used to seal away the 8tails during a rampage so what if the pot was used to absorb some of the tailed beasts from Madara to weaken him??

we have seen obito take pieces of the tailed beasts out of madara in the past so whats to say since the tailed beasts dont want to be part of madara that someone uses the pot calls out the tailed beasts name and gets pulled into the pot

Sorry, I didn't read all of it, but those Sage tools will definitely come in to use. Some of Madara's DNA has already been taken as prep

I don't say that they will be completely neutral but rather not the decisive factor.

 

[so12p]

That's right. This, guys, is an extremely obvious solution and that's why Kishi exactly chose to present it as a possibility. If you think about it, Kishi likes to point out towards one very specific possibility only so that he can completely erase it afterwards.


An example of that is Sasuke. Everyone thought that Naruto would be the one who would make him to return to the village exactly because that was the direction towards which Kishi was pointing during the whole manga. Turns out that he in fact chose on his own the path that he would follow.

A second example of a similar situation and way more obvious than that it is that everyone expected for Minato to give Naruto the other half of Kurama's chakra so he can become "complete". Neither that happened as half of Kurama was absorbed by madara.

I'm sure there are other similar cases but I'm just to lazy to think about them.


Conclusion: The treasured tools is a solution that Kishi chose to present it because it sounds ideal but he only does that because he wants to lead us, again, to a wrong path. I can guarantee that madara won't be sealed, at least not that way, their role is to misguide the readers in order for Kishi to bring the twist he desires. Do you think that the end of the series, the defeat of the strongest guy in it, would be done in a way that has been predicted by everyone?

I am not sure if Kishi has taken the tools out of play or not. I don't think anyone seriously believes tenten can do anything with them. However, Naruto has gotten part of the SO6P power and it is plausible that (somehow) Naruto gets his hands on the tools and has the same innate sense on how to use them as he does for growing back body parts. (For the haters - just read that as "jesus" knows how do everything now.)

 

[AndreJNZ]

Let's look at it from another point. The defeat of Aizen at the end was a doozie. WHO ever thought, back then, that Aizen would have been beaten by a sealing spell?

 

[Gemeyes]

Obitos gonna banish him to the Double Kamui dimension

Yeah that's what I thought. I thought he'd seal both of themselves away in Kamui, and then it would turn out Kamui is inside the "sealing stone" (the moon) or inside the Gedo Statue.
I also wondered if Obito's last move was to maybe seal away part of Madara's hatred in a way that Naruto would, maybe inside himself before dying. Nothing's known on Obito's last move, but I doubt that's it, just appearing from Kamui dead.

 

[Angelic.]

Yeah that's what I thought. I thought he'd seal both of themselves away in Kamui, and then it would turn out Kamui is inside the "sealing stone" (the moon) or inside the Gedo Statue.
I also wondered if Obito's last move was to maybe seal away part of Madara's hatred in a way that Naruto would, maybe inside himself before dying. Nothing's known on Obito's last move, but I doubt that's it, just appearing from Kamui dead.

kamui isnt on moon its another dimension. if it was where gedo was or inside it that doesnt make sense. gedo inside madara now.
obito couldnt do anything before but he will. kamui dimension> madara bc he needed kakashis eye to get there and bz to leave.

 

[Mr Hiru]

That's right. This, guys, is an extremely obvious solution and that's why Kishi exactly chose to present it as a possibility. If you think about it, Kishi likes to point out towards one very specific possibility only so that he can completely erase it afterwards.


An example of that is Sasuke. Everyone thought that Naruto would be the one who would make him to return to the village exactly because that was the direction towards which Kishi was pointing during the whole manga. Turns out that he in fact chose on his own the path that he would follow.

A second example of a similar situation and way more obvious than that it is that everyone expected for Minato to give Naruto the other half of Kurama's chakra so he can become "complete". Neither that happened as half of Kurama was absorbed by madara.

I'm sure there are other similar cases but I'm just to lazy to think about them.


Conclusion: The treasured tools is a solution that Kishi chose to present it because it sounds ideal but he only does that because he wants to lead us, again, to a wrong path. I can guarantee that madara won't be sealed, at least not that way, their role is to misguide the readers in order for Kishi to bring the twist he desires. Do you think that the end of the series, the defeat of the strongest guy in it, would be done in a way that has been predicted by everyone?

Or au contraire, he would play both hands and he would makes us think that he will use it so we think and he will not use it, and in the end, he will use it.

A perfect example of this: Foot guy.

 

[Honord Sage]

His powers from the Juubi will be taken away by the tools. Not Madara Himself. He may end up like Obito dying a slow death after extraction.

 

[Angelic.]

he'd be ok after the bijuu are pulled out bc of gedo inside him, unless something else happens. then force him to use rt and watch him die a slow and miserable death mwahaha