Sasuke's way is better than Naruto's way

Is Sasuke's way better


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I am sure that Hashirama managed to improve the situation seen in the Warring Clans era where child slaughter was the norm to a more mellowed system ... until the likes of Madara and Danzo (Who folllows Sasuke's way ... just FYI) ****ed it up.
So hashirama's legacy stopped the uchiha clan getting slaughtered? I forget sasuke wants to acquire power to put the world in IT to obtain eternal peace. This is from narutopedia
Danzō seemed to hate the previous Hokage's beliefs stating those beliefs have destroyed the village after the Invasion of Pain, despite using the attack as an attempt to overthrow Tsunade and leaving its citizens in peril as well as being responsible for Nagato's negative perceptions of Konoha, which lead to its destruction
I forget sasuke wanted to do this too? Your clear hate of sasuke has blinded you to events in the actual manga, it's laughable that you think madara and danzo are like sasuke.
 
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Shouldering the burdens to a better path? What does that have to do with changing the old system?
He didnt say he wont leave things the same either. Also if I remember correctly he once said to Neji that he will even change the Hyuga if he has to for Neji .... There he had already shown intolerance for unjust systems .... So why he would change his personality for your pleasure?

Naruto never said that he would change anything regarding the old system.
Sasuke has not said anything about building a just, fair and benevolent system either (Infact hesitated to answer Kakashi's question) ..... In fact I dont think there is ANY system that is proper unless the people are proper. If there is can you enlighten me?

The only thing that Naruto wants is peace.
Good.

Why do you think that Naruto got pissed off when Sasuke tried to Burn down the Juubi?
Because Sasuke just tried to burn down some beings who entursted Naruto with power to stop a world ending crisis and they happen to be his friends.

Naruto doesn't want change. He only wants unrealistic ideals to be thrown at people so they can follow it.
So did Gandhi, MLK, Gautam Buddha etc etc .....

Read the manga and stop wasting my time.
Wash off the wank off your eyes and read the manga pls.
 

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Then he doesn't want to make things stay the same now, would he? Just like how he intend to keep the Hyuga system the same when he becomes Hokage.
Don't expect logic from that guy he can't see further than his wanking for Sasuke.

I would accept other peoples opinions if theyr weren't acting like a b*tch about it, like you were doing and are doing now.

Ii don't show sympathy for crybaby fapkids who cry everytime Naruto is dissed.

So everyone is crying in the thread?as i said pathetic, the funny part is you're doing exactly what you're accusing people of doing, your biased fapboy nature makes in impossible to see anything not aligned with your silly ideals.
 
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So hashirama's legacy stopped the uchiha clan getting slaughtered?
The massacre happened precicely because Hashirama's legacy faded. No one willing hard enough to plead with the Uchiha and ask forgiveness. The lack of tolerence and acceptance is what lead to the Uchiha's unrest and thus the massacre.

I forget sasuke wants to acquire power to put the world in IT to obtain eternal peace.
Sasuke has no idea what to do other than wiping out the system ..... Madara and Hashirama had a vision what to do after the fighting was stopped, they wanted to warring clan to come together as one in peace and prosperity. Does Sasuke has a vision other than killing .... a vision of unity? Its easy to destroy and make enemies and much harder to create and make friends.

This is from narutopedia
Yeah Danzo's own views is goldmine for sure. He himself causes troubles for the 'greater good' and blames others.

I forget sasuke wanted to do this too? Your clear hate of sasuke has blinded you to events in the actual manga, it's laughable that you think madara and danzo are like sasuke.
And you in your clear fanboying of Sasuke has failed to notice that Sasuke has no idea or capability to unite the people under him .... He wants to great rid of a corrupt system? Ok well and good, but what will replace it? Can you enlighten me on how will Sasuke unite people under him and build a good system?
 

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Most of this thread seems like assumptions to me, we don't know shit about sasukes plans, same with naruto.

All we know is that both plan to achieve their goals by being hokage.
That's it.

Naruto wants peace, he wants Everbody to understand each other- Which considering his current power, seems possible.

Sasuke wants to change the system, to what? We don't know.

It's like some of you guys think you are Sasuke yourself.... Just because you think Sasuke wants something doe sot make it true.

As of now, neithor Sasuke or Naruto have ideal plans, for now it seems like they just want to get to hokage first
 

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Don't expect logic from that guy he can't see further than his wanking for Sasuke.
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Nardo and Sauce intended to change the system for what it is. The difference being the action taken towards the goal. I don't hate Sauce for his method, but to say Naruto doesn't want to change it really had me to respond to it.
 

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Most of this thread seems like assumptions to me, we don't know shit about sasukes plans, same with naruto.

All we know is that both plan to achieve their goals by being hokage.
That's it.

Naruto wants peace, he wants Everbody to understand each other- Which considering his current power, seems possible.

Sasuke wants to change the system, to what? We don't know.

It's like some of you guys think you are Sasuke yourself.... Just because you think Sasuke wants something doe sot make it true.

As of now, neithor Sasuke or Naruto have ideal plans, for now it seems like they just want to get to hokage first
most logical and unbiased answer in this thread.
 

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Then he doesn't want to make things stay the same now, would he? Just like how he intend to keep the Hyuga system the same when he becomes Hokage.
This trend has been going on for more than 80 years now. Naruto is only repeating the same old failed cycle. Wanting peace and getting rid of hatred. Communication and getting rid of violence. The only reason why Naruto's wish will happen is because this is a Shounen and also because this manga is named after him, but even if his peace comes true it does not mean that violence or hatred will go away. Again, naruto is not changing anything. he is just adding on to years of failure. Sasuke is trying to change the cycle so that history will not repeat.
Don't expect logic from that guy he can't see further than his wanking for Sasuke.
You mad? Lol
 

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This trend has been going on for more than 80 years now. Naruto is only repeating the same old failed cycle. Wanting peace and getting rid of hatred. Communication and getting rid of violence.
Oh really? Can you tell me who exactly after Hashirama was able to follow that Principle to the end?


The only reason why Naruto's wish will happen is because this is a Shounen and also because this manga is named after him,
That means Gautam Buddha, Gandhi, MLK were just Shonen right?

but even if his peace comes true it does not mean that violence or hatred will go away.
Then as someone eloquently put it "Rasengan to the face" .... Chidori would do too.

Again, naruto is not changing anything. he is just adding on to years of failure.
Yeah .... Hashirama tried to change the Warring Clans Era Mass slaughter .... sure was a years of failure.

Sasuke is trying to change the cycle so that history will not repeat.
How exactly?
Please explain how Sasuke is trying to do that?
 

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The massacre happened precicely because Hashirama's legacy faded. No one willing hard enough to plead with the Uchiha and ask forgiveness. The lack of tolerence and acceptance is what lead to the Uchiha's unrest and thus the massacre.
yea some will of fire it burned out lol.
Sasuke has no idea what to do other than wiping out the system ..... Madara and Hashirama had a vision what to do after the fighting was stopped, they wanted to warring clan to come together as one in peace and prosperity. Does Sasuke has a vision other than killing .... a vision of unity? Its easy to destroy and make enemies and much harder to create and make friends.
Oh really? You think he still wants to kill people? We don't know what he plans to do coz it's not revealed to us. All we know is he wants to change the system and succeed where the others failed. One would be insane to try the same thing again after failing.
Yeah Danzo's own views is goldmine for sure. He himself causes troubles for the 'greater good' and blames others.
You are talking about ms sasuke again, when he was at his darkest. Somehow you think it's the same sasuke.
And you in your clear fanboying of Sasuke has failed to notice that Sasuke has no idea or capability to unite the people under him .... He wants to great rid of a corrupt system? Ok well and good, but what will replace it? Can you enlighten me on how will Sasuke unite people under him and build a good system?
Lol you just have to find out. The reader doesn't know yet, and you're assuming it can't happen.
 
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