Sasuke's way is better than Naruto's way

Is Sasuke's way better


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I won't even bother with this. The dude even said Danzo's ways are similar to Sasuke's.

The bold was not a contradiction, unless you think that caring for something that someone has tortured and destroyed accounts for being selfish If you haven't noticed, they are ninjas. Ninjas fight and kill when necessary. You think that ninjas' are just supposed to sit down, drink some tea, and talk over a fire about how to solve their problems? No wonder you agree with Nardo's ideals, as his way of peace is so half-assed that it's not even attainable. I don't think that you should be crying over something as simple and small as Sasuke attacking Ay or Bee when at the end of the day, Bee escaped anyway. They live, fight and die. Get used to it.
Yep he's similar to Danzo in that they both would do anything to achieve their twisted goals. Danzo wants to protect the village and Sasuke wants to revenge for his brother. They both went about it in almost the same way. Danzo had to stop the Uchiha by telling Itachi to massacre them and Sasuke wants to take revenge by destroying Konoha and killing everyone there.

Also, Itachi thinks proudly of himself as a Konoha shinobi, regardless of what he had to do and didn't want Sasuke to take revenge. So, what other reason than selfishness did he have for trying to attack Konoha in general (he didn't descriminate between the leaders and the people living there btw)? Selfishness.


Of course I agree with Naruto's ideals (Most anyway). Nothing gets resolved with violence; You need to look deeper and understand why people do the things they do. Had Killer Bee died, do you truly believe that there would be peace between the Cloud and Konoha if Sasuke became a leader?

The fact that Killer Bee lived is not even the issue here. What did Bee or the cloud do to Sasuke that justified his attack on them? What reason did he have for it? Absolutely selfish, nothing more, nothing less. I definitely wouldn't want a leader like that.
 

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Didn't read. Sakura will be the next Hokage and Naruto and Sauce will be her advisers.
Think about... Tsunade is Hokage and she will select Sakura, especially after she witnesses her Prime stage.
why man why . dont blow our minds . sakura was always behind sasu/naru and she always will be behind.
 

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Yep he's similar to Danzo in that they both would do anything to achieve their twisted goals. Danzo wants to protect the village and Sasuke wants to revenge for his brother. They both went about it in almost the same way. Danzo had to stop the Uchiha by telling Itachi to massacre them and Sasuke wants to take revenge by destroying Konoha and killing everyone there.

Also, Itachi thinks proudly of himself as a Konoha shinobi, regardless of what he had to do and didn't want Sasuke to take revenge. So, what other reason than selfishness did he have for trying to attack Konoha in general (he didn't descriminate between the leaders and the people living there btw)? Selfishness.


Of course I agree with Naruto's ideals (Most anyway). Nothing gets resolved with violence; You need to look deeper and understand why people do the things they do. Had Killer Bee died, do you truly believe that there would be peace between the Cloud and Konoha if Sasuke became a leader?

The fact that Killer Bee lived is not even the issue here. What did Bee or the cloud do to Sasuke that justified his attack on them? What reason did he have for it? Absolutely selfish, nothing more, nothing less. I definitely wouldn't want a leader like that.
Excuse me but how are Sasuke's goals twisted? You are comparing Danzo to Sasuke like Danzo had a clan or something important in his life and it was suddenly destroyed. Danzo was a douche bag for no reason at all. At least Sasuke's reason for from a dramatic experience. I think you are also forgetting that it was Danzo that caused Sasuke's anger. Sasuke never did anything like Danzo, so I don't know where this information is spewing from. Sasuke's motives are not selfish like Danzo's reasons.

You are talking about true peace. I guess you forgot that the cloud tried to kidnap the Byakugan from the leaf. What if they succeeded and Hinata died? I can play this game too.

I doesn't matter what Bee did to Sasuke. It was an assignment from Obito and Sasuke followed it. The point still stands that Bee didn't die from that occasion.
 

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i see only personal opinion and nothing more in his posts. it's just useless waste of time on close-minded naruto hater/sasuke fan like you. P.S. only nagato has realistic way to bring world peace unlike these two morons.
No the initial post was opinionated but his rebuttal wasn't. It was the truth and did you see my 1st post? I don't hate naruto at all.

Please don't say something like that. Nagato was soooo idealistic. His parents and best friend died so he went after the guys who did it. Fair enough but then he decides to gather the tailed beats so he would monopolize wars in such way that whoever doesn't hire akatsuki in war loses then peace would be achieved. That escalated rather quickly wouldn't you agree. Rather than ideal I would say radical.
 

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Revenge and feeling of hatred brings negativity to a person as well as the people around that person.Whereas the feeling of togetherness(friends,comrades,family,etc.,) and to forgive brings a positive force to life and ends the cycle of hatred.
Therefore,Naruto's way is always the best!
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I keep hearing this same thing over and over again that naruto cant bring peace and yet the manga is showing me the complete opposite

Jiraiya and Minato have been trying for years to bring peace, and still have not succeeded.
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did i miss half the manga or what, Jiraiya wished for peace, he never did anything to achieve that dream but instead travelled the world on the lookout for the child of prohecy on elder toad's instruction
neither did minato who literally spent much of his adult life in wars, but understood the wrongs of ninja system
 

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I keep hearing this same thing over and over again that naruto cant bring peace and yet the manga is showing me the complete opposite



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did i miss half the manga or what, Jiraiya wished for peace, he never did anything to achieve that dream but instead travelled the world on the lookout for the child of prohecy on elder toad's instruction
neither did minato who literally spent much of his adult life in wars, but understood the wrongs of ninja system
Lmao, what's the difference? And you completely just destroyed your own argument as if he was traveling the world looking for the child of prophecy then isn't that trying to bring peace and not just wishing for it?
 

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Naruto's way is better, imo.
Why? Because Friendship/Cooperation is the key to peace.
Dat lucario :win:
OT: No the sosp thought so too. By making ashura the successor, he created war between ashura and indra which created the conflict in present time. Both ashura's and indra's way for peace is needed.

Don't trip bro! He ain't no naruto, so he can't rasengan to our face nor bijudama us when we don't "believe it" the fairy tale(aka coo coo story). This is the least he can do in the absence of naruto
You deserve 100 points of rep for that XD

Revenge and feeling of hatred brings negativity to a person as well as the people around that person.Whereas the feeling of togetherness(friends,comrades,family,etc.,) and to forgive brings a positive force to life and ends the cycle of hatred.
Therefore,Naruto's way is always the best!
=D
Legit argument but sasuke doesn't desire revenge anymore. He's broken the cycle of hatred
 

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Dat lucario :win:
OT: No the sosp thought so too. By making ashura the successor, he created war between ashura and indra which created the conflict in present time. Both ashura's and indra's way for peace is needed.
Thanks, Lucario for the win!

OT: Yeah, I know.
I like both Naruto and Sasuke, but I don't understand Naruto/Sasuke fanboys..
 
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Okey lets apply the both this Debate ...

Sasuke way: All who disagree is silenced by force and not allowed to share their opinion .... even if it shared it is ignored. If someone get uppity he/she is removed.

Naruto Way: People are allowed to talk and share opinions, people are persuaded to change their opinion .... People are only removed or silenced if they stubbornly threaten the stability or the peace of the debate.

Now use your brain and think which would work?
 
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Naruto's way is the way of shonen manga, of course its unrealistic. The whole moving forward without sacrificing anything only happens in dreams. We all must make sacrifices to reach our goal, that is Sasuke's way and that is reality. IMO Sasuke is better because he is more realistic. I out grew characters like Naruto over 10 years ago, along with Superman and Power Ranger a while ago, but at the very least I respect what he stands for. Even if it is a fairy tale.

Oh yeah, didn't read sorry. Add spaces
It's not about being realistic or unrealistic, it's about what's best for that world. You can't ignore Naruto's way because it's the same as many main characters and that you "outgrew" them.

Sasuke's way is what the shinobi has been doing throughout the generations. Villages fighting for superiority which leads to revenge and that leads to more revenge, thus continuing the cycle of hatred. The reason the will of fire was unsuccessful throughout the years wasn't because it was wrong, it was because no one wanted to cooperate with Hashirama or anyone else who had the will of fire.

Naruto is trying to stop the cycle of hatred. Even if he can't get rid of it completely, his way is the only way that can make a difference in the shinobi world. This war is proof. Now that the shinobi in this war has cooperated with each other, the Kage has seen that what they were doing before was wrong. They said it themselves that they also want to get rid of the hatred in this world. Every shinobi wants to get rid of the hatred in the world, but they are just weak willed, because Naruto never gave up and continue down this path, people started to see hope.
 

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Yet you didn't counter most of those post.

Tell me what's Sasuke plan for the Bijuus after he kills them and they revive and Curbstomp his village unexpectedly?
Yeah, as if this pitiful argument has anything to even do with the thread.
And yet you didn't counter my post and just spout bs like always.

You're a Naruto fanboy so I don't feel like spoon feeding everything for you when it has been shown. Read the manga, derp.
 

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Lmao, what's the difference? And you completely just destroyed your own argument as if he was traveling the world looking for the child of prophecy then isn't that trying to bring peace and not just wishing for it?
You can be serious if you can't see the big difference.

Jiraiya had a idea of achieving peace did nothing towards it, unless everyone's a mind reader they wouldn't have known. The child of prophecy was the one that's suppose to bring about peace not Jiraiya

Yeah, as if this pitiful argument has anything to even do with the thread.
And yet you didn't counter my post and just spout bs like always.

You're a Naruto fanboy so I don't feel like spoon feeding everything for you when it has been shown. Read the manga, derp.
Clearly you didn't read the manga then as it has everything to do with the thread, as after he said he was going to change the system he was going to burn up all of the tail beast and didn't even know the beast can be revived at a later date so instead of being butthurt for once answer the question and don't try to avoid it.

 
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You can be serious if you can't see the big difference.

Jiraiya had a idea of achieving peace did nothing towards it, unless everyone's a mind reader they wouldn't have known. The child of prophecy was the one that's suppose to bring about peace not Jiraiya
It seems like you are missing the big picture, as who is the one trying to find the child of prophecy in the first place, moron? Jiraiya ishes for peace but he also tries to achieve peace through his students and his books.
So now, trying to find a child of prophecy and writing books to get his theme out about guts and peace, does not account for working for it?????? Yep, your logic is trash.
 

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I think naruto way is better, as you have said naruto can change the heart of its enemy and turn them into ally.. his personality fits to become hokage, and if he becomes hokage, everyone in ninja world sand, mist, rain and all the villages will respect and acknowledge him because naruto have the charisma to make people change.. and once touches their lives.. besides if naruto becomes hokage.. shikamaru and others will be his adviser so i think that's a plus for him.
 
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