Sasuke's way is better than Naruto's way

Is Sasuke's way better


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Naruto Uzumaki is the most unrealistic character I have ever seen. Naruto believes in forgiveness and communicating through feelings. Sharing his thoughts and trying to convert people to his side through any means necessary. No matter how much pain and suffering people cause Naruto, he will do whatever it takes to change their ways, unless they are just plainly evil like Hidan or Kakuzu, but that is a different story. Naruto has Tnj'd so many people in this series. Zabuza, Neji, Gaara, Nagato, and even Obito were all converted to Naruto's way of peace. Even after living his whole childhood life alone, shunned by his own village for most of his childhood only to have everyone accept him because he got stronger and Naruto saved their fodder asses from Pain because they were too weak to do anything themselves so they needed a 16 year old kid to save them. The Konoha ninja are only bandwagoners who only started liking Naruto because he got stronger and protected them from their deaths. The dark Naruto was absolutely right, but that topic is for another day.
Naruto later on, discovered the secret of his parents and how his life started and who was behind all of his parents suffering and struggles. After figuring out all of this, Naruto still tried to convert Obito to his side and still tried to forgive and forget the past just to help his enemies. Naruto's way is the will of Fire. Totally unrealistic ideals of achieving everlasting peace through his teachers wishes. There is no such thing as everlasting peace. Only a fool would think that. There will always be darkness in to oppose the light. This is a human cycle of the universe. It will never end, so trying to change everyone with your gay speeches will not change a damn thing.
Sorry it's so long lol

According to Kishimoto and other manga artists, this is how the ideal main character should be. Can you blame him? Yes it is unrealistic but remember naruto's target audiences are teenagers and young adults. Naruto is teaching people to never stop chasing your dream and to always believe in yourself. Naruto's way of peace reflects what most people would want right? So for someone to see this unfolding, even if it is in fiction, would bring a sense of happiness to them.

I agree wholeheartedly when you say that the village singled him out one time and now they are all riding his D. Anyone else would be like "everyone can go to hell", but nobody wants the ideal person saying that. People love the story of an underdog, someone who started in a really unfavourable position where everyone thought he was a loser. But through hard work and an unyielding spirit, he finally got the acknowledgement of the village. People also love when the underdog proves everyone wrong. Adding on to the ideal person thing, when naruto TnJ's people, it essentially shows that he's stronger. By not killing obito or nagato, he shows in some way that he's the better man who doesn't seek revenge (revenge is selfish) but seeks the option that brings the greater good. This is consistent with his dream for peace.

Saying he's unrealistic is your opinion. My opinion too, I mean which world that exists is totally free of evil and war? You are totally right when you say everywhere light exists, darkness does too. True peace is a fallacy. However wouldn't it be great if there was? Totally idealistic I know but naruto is the beacon of hope for everyone so that's's why so many people like him. This being said, it is VERY easy to create a character like naruto. That's why he is not complex at all and for many people who are realists, he comes of as annoying, hard to take seriously and very much in your face.

Sasuke is not like Naruto as he believes in revenge and change. Staying in a little village, noticing that being nurtured and sheltered by his comrades and friends will not make him stronger. He soon left the village, and this was the right choice, as if he stayed in the village then he would have never gotten strong enough to achieve his goals. Sasuke believes in protecting what he cares for deeply and willing to step over bodies to get to his goals. Sasuke is indeed a pure hearted child, but he can be self-absorbed with his goals, but his goals are for a reason. It is not a selfish wish or goal to seek revenge for your own clans demise. Only a fool would reject that chance and play all goody goody in a village. Sasuke will do what ever it means to get the job done. His family and clan were all destroyed by his brother, and he set his entire life and decided to kill Itachi. He then accomplished that goal only to find out that it was Konoha who were behind the whole thing and his brothers actions. Sasuke decides to destroy Konoha for the suffering of his brother. Sasuke's decisions and actions are reasonable, as it was Danzo's fault to begin with, but I will not get into all that now. Sasuke noticed that the current village system was flawed and cricked so he decided that he wanted to become hokage. Sasuke understand that changing what has occurred for many years will change for future generations. Jiraiya and Minato have been trying for years to bring peace, and still have not succeeded. This can imply that the same old tactics will not work. Change and order is necessary in order to make things better and this is something that Sasuke understand, and thus why Sasuke would make a better hokage than Naruto. U_U
I agree with everything you said about Sasuke. Not sure about better hokage in terms of how much the people in the village acknowledge him. IMO I think the village is flawed and pathetic. Sasuke doesn't owe the village anything so if he doesn't become hokage I won't be disappointed and it will be their loss. War will start over again and the village will crumble, sticking to its old ways.
 

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Sorry it's so long lol

According to Kishimoto and other manga artists, this is how the ideal main character should be. Can you blame him? Yes it is unrealistic but remember naruto's target audiences are teenagers and young adults. Naruto is teaching people to never stop chasing your dream and to always believe in yourself. Naruto's way of peace reflects what most people would want right? So for someone to see this unfolding, even if it is in fiction, would bring a sense of happiness to them.

I agree wholeheartedly when you say that the village singled him out one time and now they are all riding his D. Anyone else would be like "everyone can go to hell", but nobody wants the ideal person saying that. People love the story of an underdog, someone who started in a really unfavourable position where everyone thought he was a loser. But through hard work and an unyielding spirit, he finally got the acknowledgement of the village. People also love when the underdog proves everyone wrong. Adding on to the ideal person thing, when naruto TnJ's people, it essentially shows that he's stronger. By not killing obito or nagato, he shows in some way that he's the better man who doesn't seek revenge (revenge is selfish) but seeks the option that brings the greater good. This is consistent with his dream for peace.

Saying he's unrealistic is your opinion. My opinion too, I mean which world that exists is totally free of evil and war? You are totally right when you say everywhere light exists, darkness does too. True peace is a fallacy. However wouldn't it be great if there was? Totally idealistic I know but naruto is the beacon of hope for everyone so that's's why so many people like him. This being said, it is VERY easy to create a character like naruto. That's why he is not complex at all and for many people who are realists, he comes of as annoying, hard to take seriously and very much in your face.
I never felt naruto was an underdog at all, not even once. All those crap kishi said he's underdog this or that. Dam, in the first chapter, he already exceeded jounin level and got acknowledge with less than 8-9 hours hard work in the very first chapter. Naruto has a pill to cure all underdog disease in a 2-3 second
 
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I never felt naruto was an underdog at all, not even once. All those crap kishi said he's underdog this or that. Dam, in the first chapter, he already exceeded jounin level and got acknowledge with less than 8-9 hours hard work in the very first chapter. Naruto has a pill to cure all underdog disease in a 2-3 second
I think the flashbacks got to me. He drilled it into heads how everyone hated him and how he was useless to begin with. Yea learning the shadow clone jutsu was an asspull of epic proportions.
 

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Then the whole world is low life including you. Please enlighten me by saying that all you naruto fans are peace loving like naruto. Oh wait, he's not so peaceful after all. Why? Rasengan to your face if you don't "believe it!"
Thank you. U_U

The best post I've seen.
you are both complete retards, naruto's way is better he tries to make peace with the enemy so they become good.

sasuke tries to kill every including the innocence and attacking a woman is just pathetic, but i think you like that huh because you guys probably don't like women. scums


now see whose the low life you garbage.
 

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Yea burn everything to the ground is a much better way of handling coflicts. Got a tootache? Burn it down. Dispute over land? Burn everything.
Have you ever considered the possibility that it's because close minded people like you(no offense intended) view communication, forgiveness and sacrifice i.e Naruto's way as unrealistic is the reason why the real word is as shitty as it is.
Naruto's way might be unrealistic but atleast it will bring true peace if everyone follows it. Sasuke's way on the other hand will bring nothing but chaos.
 

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you are both complete retards, naruto's way is better he tries to make peace with the enemy so they become good.

sasuke tries to kill every including the innocence and attacking a woman is just pathetic, but i think you like that huh because you guys probably don't like women. scums


now see whose the low life you garbage.
This user got butthurt and neg rep me Lol
 

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you are both complete retards, naruto's way is better he tries to make peace with the enemy so they become good.

sasuke tries to kill every including the innocence and attacking a woman is just pathetic, but i think you like that huh because you guys probably don't like women. scums


now see whose the low life you garbage.
This user got butthurt and neg rep me Lol
hahahaha people can't accept different opinions and think that only their way is right. @Lordraikage stop playing the moral high ground and getting asshurt over a post. How pathetic go suck naruto's D.
 

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What Sasuke did does not bring change. He did what everyone else did at the time and before, he sought revenge with hatered, something everyone else in a similar position did. In what way was what he did different that what Obito did because of Rin?


It takes strength to forgive. Naruto doesn't forget, he tries to forgive to stop the cycle of hatred just as Shikamaru described it.
Sasuke's way is very similar to Danzo's; Something you appear to disagree with. You think the people close to the people Sasuke killed/attacked will not seek revenge? You think Ay would've stood down if Bee was really dead? He pretty much did to Ay the same thing Itachi/Konoha did to him for absolutely no reason.
Sasuke believes in protecting what he cares for deeply and willing to step over bodies to get to his goals. Sasuke is indeed a pure hearted child, but he can be self-absorbed with his goals, but his goals are for a reason. It is not a selfish wish or goal to seek revenge for your own clans demise. Only a fool would reject that chance and play all goody goody in a village. Sasuke will do what ever it means to get the job done. His family and clan were all destroyed by his brother, and he set his entire life and decided to kill Itachi. He then accomplished that goal only to find out that it was Konoha who were behind the whole thing and his brothers actions. Sasuke decides to destroy Konoha for the suffering of his brother. Sasuke's decisions and actions are reasonable, as it was Danzo's fault to begin with, but I will not get into all that now. Sasuke noticed that the current village system was flawed and cricked so he decided that he wanted to become hokage. Sasuke understand that changing what has occurred for many years will change for future generations. Jiraiya and Minato have been trying for years to bring peace, and still have not succeeded. This can imply that the same old tactics will not work. Change and order is necessary in order to make things better and this is something that Sasuke understand, and thus why Sasuke would make a better hokage than Naruto. U_U
@Bold: You're contradicting yourself.
 

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Much butthurt. Much wow.

Sasuke's way is crying and running away when he's loosing.
Naruto fainted and hyperventilated for a guy that tried to kill him and doesn't give two shits about him. I wonder who is the real loser?

Mhm. I think that if sauce ways come into fruitation it will be another period of the warring states, which produced hashirama and madara. So eventually someone will try hashirama way again, so why not just go with narutos ways instead of back tracking
If Sasuke's way comes to fruition then change will be anew. The same old ideals will not make a difference, as this has been proven time and time again. Hashirama wanted this and look what happened? Jiraiya wanted this and look what happened? Minato wanted this and look what happened? The only reason why Madara ever turned evil was because of Konoha and their shameful act of not trusting the Uchiha. Madara turned evil because he was not trusted by anyone. Hashirama was a fool. The only reason why Hashirama believes that force isn't necessary is because he is already a power house to begin with. Strong good-willed people like Naruto and Hashirama only believes in trivial discussions because they already know that they have power, so power isn't an obstacle for them people. If he was weak then he wouldn't be saying this rubbish.

Naruto > Sasuke in the end. Believe It!
Insignificant member. That's not the point of this thread.

wall text , gg.
You are too insignificant to read my wall of text.

still better than selfish emo like sasky.
This must explain your kindergarten argument.

What you basically told me is that Sasuke will turn on and forsake his home in the pursuit of his own selfish agenda, even if he doesn't really have all the details behind his goal. Soooooo, no, I don't think I would want a hokage who would potentially leave and then plot to destroy me and everyone in the village all because he's upset at his already-dying brother and 4 old farts

Let's just say they both would be terrible hokage at the moment and leave it at that. It's pretty much a pick your poison situation
Sasuke's motives aren't selfish. He wants to change the current world. I don't see that being selfish. Naruto would be considered selfish as he tries to force people with his beliefs. He might as well be a jew wearing a white robe.

Talk to me when Sasuke can form visible craters on the moon by using a TBBRS.
When did this happen?

see its funny cuz sasky's way has been tried through all history and guess what? NEVER WORKS LEL
he is an inconsistent little whiner and he will be another danzo only a dope cant see the writing on the wall about it

if u really think some little douche who will forsake the people and shit on everyone cuz "durr revenge" is a good leader then u need to either open a textbook or ask your parents where your medicine is.
You are too insignificant to understand Sasuke's ambitions.

I gues Gandhi was a unrealistic person also. Rofl.

Oh man i love this kind of crap from fans.
Conversation and discussion isn't always guaranteed to be fruitful of making change. Sometimes force and action is necessary.

Apparently MLK never made any headway either, lmfao. People can be so thickheaded it's disgusting.

Sasuke's way will never lead to anything but way, anger, and the continuation of the Cycle of Hatred. I see why Kishimoto has to ram this ideal down our throats, because some people still can't put it together. He's literally the worst type of person for any leadership position. Hell, just look at his track record with Taka. Kiba would be twice the Hokage Sasuke would be.
Kiba lacks power, so he would be a terrible hokage + plus he talks to much and gets level headed. He is also not calm like Sasuke is during situations. Sasuke is going to end the cycle of hatred.
The only reasons why the Uchiha are known as darkness is because no one trusted them.

You are a Naruto fanboy so anything related to Sasuke is in your ass.

Sasuke will throw the entire world into a state of war, he has never shown even the slightest diplomatic skill or the ability to understand peace.

Naruto is naïve but at least he has some understanding of peace and diplomacy, and he understands the position of leadership, another thing Sasuke lacks.
Naruto understands diplomacy and leadership? Yes, Good laugh.

See my status, even Albert Einstein agree with Naruto
And yet Hashirama and Jiraiya failed in doing so.

Sasuke's way is really just as childish and unrealistic as Naruto's. Got a problem? Kill it.
I can't name one sane person who would call that a legitimate way of handling a problem.
Sasuke's motives are more realistic and in the realms of possibility.
Naruto trying to be some half rack messiah and convert people to his light is about as unrealistic as it can get.

you are both complete retards, naruto's way is better he tries to make peace with the enemy so they become good.

sasuke tries to kill every including the innocence and attacking a woman is just pathetic, but i think you like that huh because you guys probably don't like women. scums


now see whose the low life you garbage.
Another insignificant member.
I don't know what this thread has to do with hating woman, but Sasuke piercing through Karin was during his most darkness stage and he was trying to kill Danzo who caused his life hell.



Yea burn everything to the ground is a much better way of handling coflicts. Got a tootache? Burn it down. Dispute over land? Burn everything.
Have you ever considered the possibility that it's because close minded people like you(no offense intended) view communication, forgiveness and sacrifice i.e Naruto's way as unrealistic is the reason why the real word is as shitty as it is.
Naruto's way might be unrealistic but atleast it will bring true peace if everyone follows it. Sasuke's way on the other hand will bring nothing but chaos.
If anything, you Naruto fans are simple minded. You have no originality and even think like Naruto. You think that all talk and motivation will change anything.
 

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Much butthurt. Much wow.


Naruto fainted and hyperventilated for a guy that tried to kill him and doesn't give two shits about him. I wonder who is the real loser?


If Sasuke's way comes to fruition then change will be anew. The same old ideals will not make a difference, as this has been proven time and time again. Hashirama wanted this and look what happened? Jiraiya wanted this and look what happened? Minato wanted this and look what happened? The only reason why Madara ever turned evil was because of Konoha and their shameful act of not trusting the Uchiha. Madara turned evil because he was not trusted by anyone. Hashirama was a fool. The only reason why Hashirama believes that force isn't necessary is because he is already a power house to begin with. Strong good-willed people like Naruto and Hashirama only believes in trivial discussions because they already know that they have power, so power isn't an obstacle for them people. If he was weak then he wouldn't be saying this rubbish.


Insignificant member. That's not the point of this thread.


You are too insignificant to read my wall of text.


This must explain your kindergarten argument.


Sasuke's motives aren't selfish. He wants to change the current world. I don't see that being selfish. Naruto would be considered selfish as he tries to force people with his beliefs. He might as well be a jew wearing a white robe.


When did this happen?


You are too insignificant to understand Sasuke's ambitions.


Conversation and discussion isn't always guaranteed to be fruitful of making change. Sometimes force and action is necessary.


Kiba lacks power, so he would be a terrible hokage + plus he talks to much and gets level headed. He is also not calm like Sasuke is during situations. Sasuke is going to end the cycle of hatred.
The only reasons why the Uchiha are known as darkness is because no one trusted them.

You are a Naruto fanboy so anything related to Sasuke is in your ass.


Naruto understands diplomacy and leadership? Yes, Good laugh.


And yet Hashirama and Jiraiya failed in doing so.


Sasuke's motives are more realistic and in the realms of possibility.
Naruto trying to be some half rack messiah and convert people to his light is about as unrealistic as it can get.


Another insignificant member.
I don't know what this thread has to do with hating woman, but Sasuke piercing through Karin was during his most darkness stage and he was trying to kill Danzo who caused his life hell.




If anything, you Naruto fans are simple minded. You have no originality and even think like Naruto. You think that all talk and motivation will change anything.
this post full of butthurt XD
 

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Lel Nardo is basicly Stalin he beats the shit outta people until they believe whatever Nardo wants them to.

He has all the crap a politician has:
-Mind manipulation
-Leeching
-Contradicting
-Believes his ideas are better than any other's and ultimately right
-Overpowering

I am not sayin Sasuke is perfect. But he is better than Naruto in this regard.

I hope he tells the village everything Leaf did in shadows. The root, Danzo, everything.
 

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What Sasuke did does not bring change. He did what everyone else did at the time and before, he sought revenge with hatered, something everyone else in a similar position did. In what way was what he did different that what Obito did because of Rin?


It takes strength to forgive. Naruto doesn't forget, he tries to forgive to stop the cycle of hatred just as Shikamaru described it.
Sasuke's way is very similar to Danzo's; Something you appear to disagree with. You think the people close to the people Sasuke killed/attacked will not seek revenge? You think Ay would've stood down if Bee was really dead? He pretty much did to Ay the same thing Itachi/Konoha did to him for absolutely no reason.


@Bold: You're contradicting yourself.
I won't even bother with this. The dude even said Danzo's ways are similar to Sasuke's.

The bold was not a contradiction, unless you think that caring for something that someone has tortured and destroyed accounts for being selfish If you haven't noticed, they are ninjas. Ninjas fight and kill when necessary. You think that ninjas' are just supposed to sit down, drink some tea, and talk over a fire about how to solve their problems? No wonder you agree with Nardo's ideals, as his way of peace is so half-assed that it's not even attainable. I don't think that you should be crying over something as simple and small as Sasuke attacking Ay or Bee when at the end of the day, Bee escaped anyway. They live, fight and die. Get used to it.
 
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It's full of the truth, which simple-minded people like you can't understand. I don't see a rebuttal anywhere.
i see only personal opinion and nothing more in his posts.
You can't even counter 5% of my post.
it's just useless waste of time on close-minded naruto hater/sasuke fan like you. P.S. only nagato has realistic way to bring world peace unlike these two morons.
 

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i see only personal opinion and nothing more in his posts. it's just useless waste of time on close-minded naruto hater/sasuke fan like you. P.S. only nagato has realistic way to bring world peace unlike these two morons.
Jiraiya wanted it too.

No, you can't say anything to me because your lack of knowledge is beneath my words, therefore you are desperate and d ride everyone on this base because you have no brain of your own and can't think for yourself.

Only, like the 10% of us show any type of realistic idealism, as the other 90% are Nardo d riders and nothing more.
 
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