You act as if that's anything to be ashamed of. Sage Mode Naruto's still capable of reacting to or matching a good portion of Mid Tier fighters (Akatsuki, Kages).
OT: Nice thread, a bit of it seems over the top. But yeah. All in all, Sage Mode Naruto is a bit of a power house. Especially him in the Juubi Revival Arc.
Never denied it. My point was that NE cannot cancel out Raikiri if Rasangan doesn't connect. it sounds preposterous. If Sasuke catches Naruto off guard and attacks, it should stab through.
Lmao, you made this sound funny*. But it's essentially what i mean. You care less, but it doesn't mean you don't care.
Like me, I have 0.1 fuks to give. That .1 fuk Is very hard to get
This thread is hilarious. If anything this guy is extremely overrated by a bunch of alcoholic Naruto noobs.
Naruto's battle with Pain, I hope we can all agree that Pain was incredibly nerfed and therefore couldn't use his full power because he just got finished nuking the entire Leaf. Naruto had a huge handicap in that fight.
Let's be serious,
If Naruto had no knowledge on Pain's abilities and Pain started the battle with all 6 bodies intact, he would have lost (without Kyuubi).
What if Nagato forced his rod through Naruto's brain when he pinned him down? Also, remember that Pain / Nagato was somewhat exhausted after taking on entire village and completely nuking it into oblivion. He was also holding back so he could capture and not kill Naruto, as they needed him alive to extract the Bijuu.
SM Naruto on other hand came prepared with all his clones and frogs and still ended up on the ground eating dirt and while looking at Pain's feet because he came, like he always does, half-cocked ready to fight like an idiot.
Also, SM doesn't even last that long and once it is used up then you are practically finished. Naruto had to run for his life when he ended up back in base because he knew he couldn't use SM to fight Tendo.
Not to mention that this guy has to still use shadow clones in SM to create rasengans. Pathetic.
Also, Naruto claimed that he needed the Kyubi's power to beat Sasuke. Why can't you use SM against MS Sasuke Naruto? This alone proves that SM is weak compared to other characters like Sasuke.
This thread is hilarious. If anything this guy is extremely overrated by a bunch of alcoholic Naruto noobs.
Naruto's battle with Pain, I hope we can all agree that Pain was incredibly nerfed and therefore couldn't use his full power because he just got finished nuking the entire Leaf. Naruto had a huge handicap in that fight.
Let's be serious,
If Naruto had no knowledge on Pain's abilities and Pain started the battle with all 6 bodies intact, he would have lost (without Kyuubi).
What if Nagato forced his rod through Naruto's brain when he pinned him down? Also, remember that Pain / Nagato was somewhat exhausted after taking on entire village and completely nuking it into oblivion. He was also holding back so he could capture and not kill Naruto, as they needed him alive to extract the Bijuu.
SM Naruto on other hand came prepared with all his clones and frogs and still ended up on the ground eating dirt and while looking at Pain's feet because he came, like he always does, half-cocked ready to fight like an idiot.
Also, SM doesn't even last that long and once it is used up then you are practically finished. Naruto had to run for his life when he ended up back in base because he knew he couldn't use SM to fight Tendo.
Not to mention that this guy has to still use shadow clones in SM to create rasengans. Pathetic.
Also, Naruto claimed that he needed the Kyubi's power to beat Sasuke. Why can't you use SM against MS Sasuke Naruto? This alone proves that SM is weak compared to other characters like Sasuke.
Lol! Nobody even mentioned that Naruto solos Pain! Looking for something to pounce on?
Ist pic is outdated. The last scan was referring to EMS Sasuke. Unless you're implying he needed Kurama for blind Sasuke.
In which case.
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Naruto> Sasuke in early MS stages confirmed. Naruto>>>>>Blind Sasuke. Your scans are outdated due to more context being revealed in later chapters. Come at me Sasuage addict!
It's now gotten ridiculous just how much he's underrated. Some people even claim there's little difference between Sage Mode and base mode. I'm getting in to just how powerful sage Naruto is.
First off, I'd like to address that Naruto's no slouch in base mode either. He's actually pretty fast and good at taijutsu. He managed to defend himself from Pain.
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To give you an idea of how good Pain is at speed and taijutsu, he's dodged Kakashi's lightning blade twice.
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In case you're wondering why he's this good since he lost to Sasuke so bad, it's probably because of 2 reasons. A. He's improved.
B. He was severely weakened when he fought Sasuke.
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So just so you know, base Naruto's attributes in base mode alone are great.
Going from there on, SM gives large enhancement in all categories.
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So, going from someone who was already very good to having a huge buff is pretty significant.
Strength:
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He can lift humungous summons and throw them high into the air like a toy. His striking power is off the wall as well. Ninjas can potentially be one-shotted by his strength.
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Even if a ninja blocks it, he'll be hurtled by a rag-doll.
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Speed:
Naruto in sage-mode also has incredible speed. Here's a speed feat every Naruto hater hates with a passion.
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First thing to note is that Naruto was much further from Tsunade than Pain was. I already covered how fast Asura is on foot, so he's obviously much faster as a human missile. Popular arguments against it are "it's off-panel and we don't know when he started moving" and "He sensed his attack."
However, all these arguments are unrelated. First of all, pretty much all speed feats are off-panel. Second, he had more ground to cover, so he still had to have moved as fast or faster. Third, his cloak was pointed upwards, implying he went straight from Gamakichi down to Pain in an angle in one dash.
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Fourth, note that Asura didn't even attempt to counter-attack Naruto, meaning he couldn't react. Bear in mind, Pain has shared vision, and the rest of them were staring directly in Naruto's direction. This means that Naruto didn't surprise Asura by attacking in his blind spot, but rather, moved so fast he couldn't react even though he came from a long distance.
This all points to Naruto crossing that distance nearly instantly.
durability:
Any sharp attacks less than a jutsu are next to useless against him since he fell from a great height onto spikes but was perfectly fine.
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As for impacts. Here's what a 4-tailed Naruto can do.
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So imagine the force Naruto tanked when Kurama slammed him on the ground!
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Sensing:
Naruto, in sage mode, is a high-class sensor. He could even sense an entire war!
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He also can fight in areas so dark, that not even dojutsus can see.
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So Naruto in sage mode, doesn't even need to see his enemy, ruling out falling for most genjutsu. He could even apply this to sense chakra build up in order to respond to ninjutsu. In case you're saying "Oh, he doesn't have feats of that." The only way he wouldn't be able to sense chakra building up is if he couldn't sense chakra amounts, but he clearly can since he was overwhelmed by the juubi's chakra, and he demonstrated the ability to guage one's charka, so it's obvious he can tell if chakra becomes more powerful in his enemy for a ninjutsu.
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Taijutsu:
Well, apply the speed and strength feats I applied to you for starters. That's already monstrous. However, his frog kumite taijutsu style does 2 things. He uses it as a danger sense, and with it, he completely destroyed the 3rd Raikage in CQB despite the fact that KCM felt that he needed to to trap him instead of just running into him.
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It also enables him to manipulate natural energy around him to extend his range.
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This is impossible to predict, and you cannot dodge it in CQB. Some who can't deal with the fact that Naruto has something this good try to downplay it by saying it only reaches a tiny distance. However, read this.
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He has a constant aura of natural energy around him. That alone shows his range increase is significant if you look at how far some of it reaches. I mean, look at how far the natural energy at his feat reaches. So what if he redirects the natural energy to increase his range to that level?
Ninjutsu:
Sage mode also gives a huge boost in ninjutsu. To give you an idea of just how much, of an increase, chidori equals ransengan, now look at how Sasuke with curse mark, which is a fake sage mode, managed to equal a 1 taile'd cloak in ninjutsu enhancement.
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So naturally, a true Sage mode enhances above a fake one and thus, above a 1-tail cloak. Now I'll demonstrate just how much enhancement that would be.
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So to put things into perspective. Receiving 9 tails chakra that's not even visible gives over 3X the strength the jutsu originally had. So imagine how much increase a cloak has. Imagine how much increase SM has since it's>= to it.
This is a normal-sized Sage art: ransengan.
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Jiraya's sage art: massive ransengan, was stated by the databook to be able to hollow out a mountain if it exploded. Since Naruto's a true sage, his is obviously stronger. So Naruto's massive ransengans can blow holes into mountains. Imagine what happens when he decides to do this.
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There's also ransenshuriken. This is what it does in base.
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So yeah..... Imagine what a SM version does to someone let alone the massive variant.
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All that's needed to hit the enemy is a distraction of clones, or simply to close the distance to a range that he can hit them.
This is what Sage Mode Naruto is people. It's not base Naruto. It's a mode that makes Naruto incredibly powerful and above most characters in the manga. Stop underrating him to make your fave look good.
I love how you use pain dodging rakiri as feats for his taijutsu skill. You fail to mention that he had the advantage of shared rinnegan vision in the examples. Deva path was own his own against Naruto. So that part is fail
When don't know when naruto left so we can't say how fast hes going, non arguable
I love how you use pain dodging rakiri as feats for his taijutsu skill. You fail to mention that he had the advantage of shared rinnegan vision in the examples. Deva path was own his own against Naruto. So that part is fail
When don't know when naruto left so we can't say how fast hes going, non arguable
Mind explaining how having sight invalidates your speed in dodging an attack? So if a baseball is thrown at my face, it's only a speed feat if I can duck with my eyes closed?
Not a VS thread buddy. Only that people underrate Naruto. If this was intended to be a VS thread, I'd have mentioned Sasuke in the OP.
I love how you use pain dodging rakiri as feats for his taijutsu skill. You fail to mention that he had the advantage of shared rinnegan vision in the examples. Deva path was own his own against Naruto. So that part is fail
When don't know when naruto left so we can't say how fast hes going, non arguable
Lol! Nobody even mentioned that Naruto solos Pain! Looking for something to pounce on?
Ist pic is outdated. The last scan was referring to EMS Sasuke. Unless you're implying he needed Kurama for blind Sasuke.
In which case.
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Naruto> Sasuke in early MS stages confirmed. Naruto>>>>>Blind Sasuke. Your scans are outdated due to more context being revealed in later chapters. Come at me Sasuage addict!
You are wrong. That last scan was referring to the Sasuke that Naruto last encountered. Naruto has no idea about EMS, so it doesn't make any sense for it to be referring to an EMS Sasuke. Blind Sasuke or fresh MS Sasuke. The fact still remains that Naruto needed the Kyubi power to fight Sasuke.
Lol, and what does this prove? Zetsu was making a bold statement (as I can't stress out enough) so it's safe to say that Danzo Sasuke >> Pain arc Naruto. Many people in this manga make statements that aren't necessarily true, like the Hyuga being the strongest clan in the Leaf. If you were any type of smart, you would know that Zetsu's statements was false as how can someone make a statement when they haven't even seen the other person's ability. You are implying that Zetsu spied on Naruto and knew about his SM. That is nonsense.
Where is it confirmed again? I think I missed that? And don't give me that same useless scan of Zetsu spouting nonsense. Early MS Sasuke is much faster than SM Naruto as SM sensing and precognition is the same as 3 Tomoe Sharingan precog and since Sasuke was able to dodge Killer Bee's V1 assault then it's safe to say that Sasuke would have no problem.
Just trying to prove a point that SM Naruto is not all it's cracked up to be. That's all.
You are wrong. That last scan was referring to the Sasuke that Naruto last encountered. Naruto has no idea about EMS, so it doesn't make any sense for it to be referring to an EMS Sasuke. Blind Sasuke or fresh MS Sasuke. The fact still remains that Naruto needed the Kyubi power to fight Sasuke.
Lol, and what does this prove? Zetsu was making a bold statement (as I can't stress out enough) so it's safe to say that Danzo Sasuke >> Pain arc Naruto. Many people in this manga make statements that aren't necessarily true, like the Hyuga being the strongest clan in the Leaf. If you were any type of smart, you would know that Zetsu's statements was false as how can someone make a statement when they haven't even seen the other person's ability. You are implying that Zetsu spied on Naruto and knew about his SM. That is nonsense.
Where is it confirmed again? I think I missed that? And don't give me that same useless scan of Zetsu spouting nonsense. Early MS Sasuke is much faster than SM Naruto as SM sensing and precognition is the same as 3 Tomoe Sharingan precog and since Sasuke was able to dodge Killer Bee's V1 assault then it's safe to say that Sasuke would have no problem.
That desperation. This should be obvious.
No, my scans are proven by Kishimoto and Naruto's words that he needed the Kyuubi to fight Sasuke.
Denial is strong with you.
Just trying to prove a point that SM Naruto is not all it's cracked up to be. That's all.
You are wrong. That last scan was referring to the Sasuke that Naruto last encountered. Naruto has no idea about EMS, so it doesn't make any sense for it to be referring to an EMS Sasuke. Blind Sasuke or fresh MS Sasuke. The fact still remains that Naruto needed the Kyubi power to fight Sasuke.
Lol, and what does this prove? Zetsu was making a bold statement (as I can't stress out enough) so it's safe to say that Danzo Sasuke >> Pain arc Naruto. Many people in this manga make statements that aren't necessarily true, like the Hyuga being the strongest clan in the Leaf. If you were any type of smart, you would know that Zetsu's statements was false as how can someone make a statement when they haven't even seen the other person's ability. You are implying that Zetsu spied on Naruto and knew about his SM. That is nonsense.
Where is it confirmed again? I think I missed that? And don't give me that same useless scan of Zetsu spouting nonsense. Early MS Sasuke is much faster than SM Naruto as SM sensing and precognition is the same as 3 Tomoe Sharingan precog and since Sasuke was able to dodge Killer Bee's V1 assault then it's safe to say that Sasuke would have no problem.
That desperation. This should be obvious.
No, my scans are proven by Kishimoto and Naruto's words that he needed the Kyuubi to fight Sasuke.
Denial is strong with you.
Naruto's battle with Pain, I hope we can all agree that Pain was incredibly nerfed and therefore couldn't use his full power because he just got finished nuking the entire Leaf. Naruto had a huge handicap in that fight.
I use to say this same nonsense too... Then one day I sat down and used some logic...
Naruto went into that fight with 2 shadow clones at Myokubu. That means naruto entered that fight with 1/3 his overall power. Naruto was as handicapped as pain, if not more.
A 1/3 power sm naruto stomped 5/6 pains.
A 2/3 power sm naruto was beaten by Deva path.
A full powered Sm/base naruto did
So if a baseball is thrown at my face, it's only a speed feat if I can duck with my eyes closed? 
