[VS] Jiriya and Orochimaru vs Kisame and Kakuzu

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But. Orochimaru's. True. Form. DOES. Have. Blood.

He can still summon, read my argument on the previous page.

1. Nothing indicates he still has that form.
2. Nothing indicates he'd still have blood in that form.

Saying first he has no blood, and then saying he has is very contradicting.

No, i speak of your involvement regarding me. I don't stalk, I'm too busy for that. But i obviously can't say the same for you. Btw I'm petty for stating facts? Lml

Observing that, i find it funny who you think Minato had time to draw blood, slam thw ground and appear on top of Gam all in the midst of the TBB already being prepped pripr to any of that,

Or sasuke, drawing blood, slam, and cast Genjutsu all before cO reached him. Deidara was less than 10ft away from him.

No need to respond, i don't expect much from your response. Plus, it's time i workout but work tonight.

There's not a of bit logic in your posts. You're comparing an Edo Tensei corpse and Rinnegan user to Orochimaru. Then you're comparing a salamander to the trio-deadlock?

1. You have nothing to back your claim up about at least Aoda/Manda requiring blood.
2. You believe Sasuke cannot summon and reverse summon with blood, as it requires too much time. But summoning still requires blood.​
 
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1. Nothing indicates he still has that form.
2. Nothing indicates he'd still have blood in that form.

Saying first he has no blood, and then saying he has is very contradicting.

So you're saying that Orochimaru cannot use Gathering of the Snakes/8branches anymore? That he doesn't have his True Form? His True Form has nothing to do with his human shell, which is Zetsu right now. It's easily known, because his human shell's blood before taking over Zetsu wasn't poisonous, yet his True Form's blood was. That's why even though Zetsu body actually has no blood whatsoever, his True Form does.
 

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So you're saying that Orochimaru cannot use Gathering of the Snakes/8branches anymore? That he doesn't have his True Form? His True Form has nothing to do with his human shell, which is Zetsu right now. It's easily known, because his human shell's blood before taking over Zetsu wasn't poisonous, yet his True Form's blood was. That's why even though Zetsu body actually has no blood whatsoever, his True Form does.

His true form transformation could be a catalyst to the infection in blood. There's nothing telling that he has an extra storage for blood just because once he was poisonous, and next not. He would obviously die from such high blood pressure. Yes, it could be he has lost some attacks from his arsenal.
 

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Except he did :| He had Kabuto extract the blood, and then against Naruto he bit his fingers, Oro has never shown to summon without blood so we can't give him this skill

Kabuto draw blood in summoning Manda. Seeing as Kabuto didnt have snake contract, he used it blood to swipe along Oro's tattoo. oro's tattoo is similar the the actual contract itself. The contract which require blood to sign.

Why does Oro use it? Idk, but i mentioned the basis of summoning, which is what Jman expessed to Naruto. This mentioned nothing about the NEED to draw blood. that being said, seeing as summoning doesn't require blood, i don't see how Oro, a genius amongst the elite, can't perform the standard hand seals to summon snakes.

1. Nothing indicates he still has that form.
2. Nothing indicates he'd still have blood in that form.

Saying first he has no blood, and then saying he has is very contradicting.



There's not a of bit logic in your posts. You're comparing an Edo Tensei corpse and Rinnegan user to Orochimaru. Then you're comparing a salamander to the trio-deadlock?

1. You have nothing to back your claim up about at least Aoda/Manda requiring blood.
2. You believe Sasuke cannot summon and reverse summon with blood, as it requires too much time. But summoning still requires blood.​

Edo don't have blood, they've summoned all their respected animals. Get it?

So arguing that "OROCHIMARU has no blood" is pointless, seeing as others have done shown this ability.
 

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Kabuto draw blood in summoning Manda. Seeing as Kabuto didnt have snake contract, he used it blood to swipe along Oro's tattoo. oro's tattoo is similar the the actual contract itself. The contract which require blood to sign.

Why does Oro use it? Idk, but i mentioned the basis of summoning, which is what Jman expessed to Naruto. This mentioned nothing about the NEED to draw blood. that being said, seeing as summoning doesn't require blood, i don't see how Oro, a genius amongst the elite, can't perform the standard hand seals to summon snakes.



Edo don't have blood, they've summoned all their respected animals. Get it?

So arguing that "OROCHIMARU has no blood" is pointless, seeing as others have done shown this ability.

1. Salamander =/= Trio-deadlock.

2. Orochimaru has managed to summon small snakes without blood, but always has he needed blood for Aoda. So did Jiraiya and Tsunade.

3. Edo Tensei abilities =/= normal people.

And I wouldn't be surprised if Rinnegan could move the Earth.
 
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