Orochimaru is greater than Hiruzen (scans with proof)

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I was about to take this post seriously, until you mentioned Enma being capable of doing crap. Look where he's at. In his place.

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Capable of doing crap? Pretty sure Orochimaru was pissed when Hiruzen successfully summoned Enma, deny it. Go ahead..
 

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Considering that you have a gray rep bar, I wouldn't mind.
That's all I need to know.

Grey means I disabled it myself, if you'd like I could enable it just to show you how stupid this response is.
 

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And here you have it Sir Blades of Fap.

Orochimaru even says so himself that they are toying Hiruzen around..I mean, it wouldnt be fair for orochimaru to go Full Power on such a old pitiful hokage.


Here you go little Lola la tonta *****, now go make me a sandwich.
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Pretty sure Orochimaru held the kunai to the neck of Hiruzen's replacement, a few moments later Orochimaru extends a snake to bite Hiruzen and it appears to be a replacement.

That doesn't matter. It showed Orochimaru's first priority was to play around, not assassinate.
 

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Hiruzen already rekt Orchimaru anyways leaving him in a pitiful form (while Hiruzen being handicaped severly) while taking on two zombie hokages. (Not full powerful, but still pretty powerful)

lel, why is this even debatable?

>inb4 Orchimaru was toying with him.
 

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Here you go little Lola la tonta *****, now go make me a sandwich.
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Who are you rustling? Did you not just read my scan? He WANTED to see it. Lmfao, these arguments doe
 
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I guess you could say that since The 3rd himself did say himself that Orchorimaru was stronger than him at the time, this could make sense.

We are talking about old hiruzen. Even so Orochimaru used 2 immortal hokage (even if they were weak, still the freaking hokage) and was planning on having Kimmimaro as back up as well. So its obvious that he respected Hiruzens Abilities other wise he would have not gone thru that trouble ( he even tried to get Minato). Three HOkages for 1 man. By no means did he think it was going to be easy.

And this is the same dude that took on 4-tailed Naruto with no arms and found the battle "entertaining".

Orhimaru > Hiruzen: Probable based on what he Thrid said, even though he was speculating. BY no means was it easy for either side.
Orochimaru < Young HIruzen: 10 years younger and HIruzen would have won.

Overall, Hiruzen does have the better battle capabilities
 

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Seriously, guys.

OROCHIMARU>OLD HIRUZEN. THERE, I SAID IT.

Yes, Hiruzen was weaker than Orochimaru. Yes, he was being toyed with.

Enma, however, says that he was "miserable" compared to his prime. Enma's been at Hiruzen's side since even before the Sannin were trained by Hiruzen. He's seen Prime Hiruzen.

And an old Hiruzen who was supposedly pathetically weak stalemated a young, healthy, possibly prime Orochimaru and two Edo Hokages, which were at least Jonin level.

Sucks, but the truth hurts. By simple logic, a younger Hiruzen would have beaten Orochimaru handily.
 

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Here you go little Lola la tonta *****, now go make me a sandwich.
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Apparently you are the rustled one. resulting to name calling and sexism. Typical fapboy behavior.
I was just making a "hottest thread" and like vultures to carrion in you came. As expected.
Sir Blades of trash, how does Hiruzen KILL Orochimaru without suicide? Im waiting for an Legitimate answer.
 
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Mkay. Should I bring up the scan of Hiruzen complaining on how Orochimaru broke RDS, and summoned him, then completely shut him down, or nah?
 

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Grey means I disabled it myself, if you'd like I could enable it just to show you how stupid this response is.

The color gray has a lot of shades. Which one you're talking about?
 

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I agree with everything sir blades has said here, besides mangafact prime hiruzen> orochimaru.

In spanish= orochimaru no ase mierda contra prime hiruzen
 

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And here you have it Sir Blades of Fap.

Orochimaru even says so himself that they are toying Hiruzen around..I mean, it wouldnt be fair for orochimaru to go Full Power on such a old pitiful hokage.

Sir Blades of Fap, stop double posting.
And I like how you are saying Hiruzen can use 100 clones..when it wasnt even shown he could make that many.
If he had so many great skills, why did he only use the garbage ones? LOL I expect a legit answer.

The same thing can be said of the garbage you spout. You say Oro was playing around but i doubt and the manga does not lie; Oro got owned once he physically fought Hiruzen, Orochimaru had to use his ET Hokages to fight Hiruzen and he still got his hands sealed. So much for playing around cause after that he couldn't fap anymore lol
Oro according to the manga as well has researched so many jutsu yet he also used fodder techniques. You are on the same boat Lola la tonta and you dont see it lmao
 

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Mkay. Should I bring up the scan of Hiruzen complaining on how Orochimaru broke RDS, and summoned him, then completely shut him down, or nah?

If it makes you feel better...
 

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This is why Sasuke Solo'd Orochimaru and probably will destroy Hiruzen.

Note: here's a manga fact.

You're talking about Saratobi as he is a senior probably but what about Prime Hiruzen??? Prime Hiruzen > Orochimaru

You're forgetting that Hiruzen was his Sensei. Plus of course he would catch feelings and say that because who would want to destroy what they created?

Now as for now you're right about Orochimaru > Senior Hiruzen.
 
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Primze Hiruzen shits on Orchimaru for sure, Orchimaru even admited that 50 year old Hiruzen reks him completley
 

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The color gray has a lot of shades. Which one you're talking about?
Look again child
The same thing can be said of the garbage you spout. You say Oro was playing around but i doubt and the manga does not lie; Oro got owned once he physically fought Hiruzen, Orochimaru had to use his ET Hokages to fight Hiruzen and he still got his hands sealed. So much for playing around cause after that he couldn't fap anymore lol
Oro according to the manga as well has researched so many jutsu yet he also used fodder techniques. You are on the same boat Lola la tonta and you dont see it lmao

So getting owned in Kenjutsu, suggests in overall strength....? I guess Killer Bee >>> Sasuke then.
 

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This is very very very easy to understand.
Prime Hiruzen>Orochimaru.
This has been mentioned by several scans, DB Pages and even by a few characters.
Why is it so hard to accept?
 
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