I really hate this manga.

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I like it better the way it is now. My only problem is the fact that the fights are shorter and there's less jutsu. But the scale of the jutsu, the storyline, and the artwork are all better imo.

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I'm with you, really. The only reason that I stick around anymore is because it's fun to see how stupid it's getting, and I like to chat about old times. I was on board with the Manga through Pain, but after that it because a class A ****up. Had it all ended with the Pain battle, Pain dying, and then Naruto killing Sasuke (thus ending his cycle of hatred), the manga would be perfect and beautiful.
 

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Dude are u serious right now CAN YOU IMAGINE HOW LONG THIS DAMN MANGA WOULD RUN IF KISHI DECIDED TO GIVE THE STORY ABOUT ALL THE CHARACTERS Think about it!!!!!!!!! umpteen viallges tons of jutsu hell he could run the manga for another 10 yrs if need be and who knows thats probably possible cuz sasuke and naruto will have kids but whatever thats besides the point,

Every story, movie, play whatever you can think of have to have main characters and supporting cast and in the case of naruto there's way too many to keep them in mind for each release if they did that it'd kill the manga.

on a side note I really like what they're doing with the anime fillers if they did that from the beginning the series would be perfect
 

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Naruto is the same manga it's always been. The plot was written long ago. It is YOU, the reader, that changes and becomes more aware of flaws. There was tons of flaws in part 1. You were just so young that whatever came out seemed amazing.
 
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Art from better times.

I can't believe it's sunk this low, ever since the timeskip this manga has progressively gotten worse and worse. Now it's all about who your dad is that dictates where you stand, excluding Lee and Gai. Oh? You're mid twenties, spend day and night trying to train to be your best? Well that kid's sixteen and has a body like a Sumo wrestler, but he's related to god, therefore you lose. There's no substance; all that this manga is comprised of is a lotta super Emo Zenkai, with some mass deep throating of Biju thrown in for good measure. That's it. The Kekkei Genkai are awesome, but if you don't have one, or aren't blessed with platinum chakra levels you may as well go crawl to a farm and pretend to be a sheep - because as far as the writer's concerned you're a fodder, and he's already forgotten your name as soon as he's put pencil to paper - similar to how he once forgot Konohameru ever existed.

SUSANOO !!!! MOKUTOOOOOON !! BIJUDAMASASKECOMEBACKTOMEENGAAAN !!!

It was at least cool when you had characters like Hashirama who had Kekkei Genkai, but could also use other techniques, not characters that only have as many as three barely diverse techniques to save their lives. But even now Kishi seems to have retconed the possibility that Hashi ever used anything that wasn't Mokuton.

Elemental ninjutsu is pointless. Genjutsu that isn't Uchiha branded is pointless. Taijutsu that isn't amped by gates is pointless. 'Raw' Ninjutsu is pointless. Just get a big blue rib cage and it'll solve all your problems.

Clan of a thousand skills? Mastered every Jutsu in Konoha? Copied a thousand techniques? Jutsu knowledge that's leagues above any living Shinobi? You'll never sniff fraction of it, because before borrowed power and Genetics, it's nothing.

This isn't even going into plot, or how he's ruined the characters of folk like Orochimaru and Kakashi.

Good, if you don't like Naruto don't read it, no one's forcing you to.
 

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because as far as the writer's concerned you're a fodder, and he's already forgotten your name as soon as he's put pencil to paper - similar to how he once forgot Konohameru ever existed.
who is Konohamaru XD :sweat:
 

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THIS WAR MADE IT EVEN WORSE...

It got too huge for Kishi that it just slipped away from him
 

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Then stop reading also stop visiting this forum, who cares about fodders.
 

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Naruto being related to a God is freaking retarded. I think we can all agree that the writing quality has had a pretty huge drop-off since part 2 began. Even the biggest fanboys I know wouldn't dream of comparing the War arc to the Pain invasion arc.
 

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Good for you bro. No body gives a fxck for real
 

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I don't really think that's relevant at all. It's because of how much I loved this manga that I'm so disappoint.

seems like our brother having some issues!!
 

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I'm surprised to see you're still kicking about.

By all means I understand that the plot needs focused after all the introductions are done, but as soon as part two began we get hit up with a prophecy out of nowhere. From there it became all about the Sage's descendants, and the KH11, and other character's whole developments were completely cast aside and forgotten. I'd rather he'd kept kept it concise and focused on a smaller cast rather than introducing a bunch of 2D featless chumps that I couldn't care about.


And if he kept the cast more small and concise people would just complain even further that "nobody dies in the war".

This story is called NARUTO. It revolves around the character naruto, and the things that affect him most. The only reasons sasuke got the panel time he did, is because he is narutos rival. What he does has direct impact on what will happen with naruto.

The only real flaw with naruto(which could be a neccesary flaw), is that kishi simply didnt spend more time on side characters such as k11. If he had a few arcs with various teams of k11 playing a big role, and showing their fights(like chuunin exams, and sasuke retrieval arc, and hidan/kakuza arc, then the manga wouldve been much better.

But you seem to forget a LARGE portion of part 2. It wasnt until the pain vs naruto fight, that the "strategy and ninja tactics" began to go away.

They went away naturally not forced.

Why would you try to sneak up and attack a person in the forest, when you can just destroy the forest. Why use a fuuton jutsu, when you can throw rasenshurikens, and bijuu damas that will cause much more effect. Why bother to dodge a technique when you can tank it with a spiritual ribcage.

If you do hate the manga, then just quit it. It is doing no good for you to keep on reading something you hate. "Ohh but I commited so much time to this so I have to see it through" Stop from where you are, and just create your own ending. If it is bad enough, and you think it is ruined, then you certainly dont want to see how crappy that ending will be.

I mean this as simple advice. NOT "stop complaining about it and quit it if you dont like it". I simply mean it as advice, that will make you happier.

Have a great day.
 

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True.
You need to be from a special clan or something to be powerful, excluding Gai.
I guess Kishi redeemed himself by brilliantly showing Gai vs Madara.
It was good on Kishi's part to make Madara vulnerable to Sage Mode/Taijutsu, due to which Gai got relevant and ****ed up Madara pretty bad.
Also, if you notice Naruto's new look makes me think he got an upgrade to Sage Mode. He did work his ass off for Sage Mode, so I don't mind an SM upgrade. And, well haxed eyes aren't gonna work against Maddy, so I'm wondering what Sasuke's powerup would be?
Kishi needs to bring the "ninja" element back in the series, which he did some chapters ago, when Madara was calculating who would use Kamui and at what time, he drew Madara, Kakashi and Obito tiny, as he did for Part 1 when explaining any jutsu or tech.
 

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No ones forcing you morons to post on my thread. If you haven't anything constructive or intelligent to say then, well, go away.

stop making threads on a website about the MANGA that you hate!!!MORON!!:p
 
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