I don't see how Sasuke is a genius or Indra.

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Real geniuses like Itachi and Kakashi make Sasuke look like a straight up fool.

Itachi was better at Katon/shuriken jutsu when they were both children, he graduate the Academy faster, mastered his Sharingan sooner, and led ANBU at the same age Sasuke was just making genin.

Kakashi was also better. He graduated the Academy at what, 5? And was jounin at 13? He even invented his own jutsu and was leading serious war missions.

Then all of his non-genius decisions. He got his lunch eaten by Rock Lee because he was overconfident, yet Neji was whipping Lee and he's a genius. Then Sasuke got trumped by Lord Gaara and had to resort to Curse Mark power, but still failed. Then Naruto's Rasengan blew Chidori out of the water on the hospital.

Then he heedlessly attacked the Five Kage Summit and got rolled by everybody in attendance, Killer Bee killed him (twice), Madara called one of his strongest attacks pitiful when Sasuke charged out of nowhere. Then he shoved his katana through his own heart and he died. Deidara was a high diff fight for Sasuke and Danzo would've neg diff'd Sauce with KA, but Danzo had to save it and chakra. Wasn't even a fair fight and he still had trouble.

Some genius. Shino is way smarter.
 

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shikimaru is a genius so use him as a template
 

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Real geniuses like Itachi and Kakashi make Sasuke look like a straight up fool.

Itachi was better at Katon/shuriken jutsu when they were both children, he graduate the Academy faster, mastered his Sharingan sooner, and led ANBU at the same age Sasuke was just making genin.

Kakashi was also better. He graduated the Academy at what, 5? And was jounin at 13? He even invented his own jutsu and was leading serious war missions.

Then all of his non-genius decisions. He got his lunch eaten by Rock Lee because he was overconfident, yet Neji was whipping Lee and he's a genius. Then Sasuke got trumped by Lord Gaara and had to resort to Curse Mark power, but still failed. Then Naruto's Rasengan blew Chidori out of the water on the hospital.

Then he heedlessly attacked the Five Kage Summit and got rolled by everybody in attendance, Killer Bee killed him (twice), Madara called one of his strongest attacks pitiful when Sasuke charged out of nowhere. Then he shoved his katana through his own heart and he died. Deidara was a high diff fight for Sasuke and Danzo would've neg diff'd Sauce with KA, but Danzo had to save it and chakra. Wasn't even a fair fight and he still had trouble.

Some genius. Shino is way smarter.
Able to reproduce Itachi's Shurikenjutsu
Took chidori and created multiple jutsu
Tamed lightning
Broke Orochimaru's "unbreakable" genjutsu world with will alone.
Broke tsukuyomi
Broke the CM Danzo used to enslave all of root
Invented Enton: Kagatsuchi mid battle against fastest current Kages
Out foxed Danzo who spammed Izanagi, the ultimate uchiha Kinjutsu
Sasuke= genius stop hating
 

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Able to reproduce Itachi's Shurikenjutsu
Took chidori and created multiple jutsu
Tamed lightning
Broke Orochimaru's "unbreakable" genjutsu world with will alone.
Broke tsukuyomi
Broke the CM Danzo used to enslave all of root
Invented Enton: Kagatsuchi mid battle against fastest current Kages
Out foxed Danzo who spammed Izanagi, the ultimate uchiha Kinjutsu
Sasuke= genius stop hating

You should throw in the fact that Sasuke invented and mastered Enton in less than a week.
 

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Able to reproduce Itachi's Shurikenjutsu
Took chidori and created multiple jutsu
Tamed lightning
Broke Orochimaru's "unbreakable" genjutsu world with will alone.
Broke tsukuyomi
Broke the CM Danzo used to enslave all of root
Invented Enton: Kagatsuchi mid battle against fastest current Kages
Out foxed Danzo who spammed Izanagi, the ultimate uchiha Kinjutsu
Sasuke= genius stop hating

He was also at the top of his class at the academy if that counts. *_*
 

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Did someone touched your knickers by promising candy? The anger suggests so.

The manga has stated so on plenty of occasions and thus, it's the author's word. No one cares about your ridiculous self-interpretations. You got so many things on that list wrong that it's hilarious.
 
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Shino is definitely smarter. I can't believe I forgot about his existence.
 

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Sasuke isn't a "genius". When "genius" is used to describe someone, it usually means "prodigy", referring to their abilities and such; not their intellect.

When if comes to intellect, Sasuke isn't even top 10, and to our knowledge, neither is Indra. In the NV, "genius" usually isn't used to refer to intelligence at all.
 

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You should throw in the fact that Sasuke invented and mastered Enton in less than a week.
Thanks, I forgot that and the fact that usually goes up against seasoned war veterans and he is only 17
 

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Genius, as in intelligence? Yes and no. He's bright, but not when compared to someone like Skikamaru.
Genius as in prodigy and HIGHLY gifted? Yes. And you can't accept the second, The I have no idea on what to tell you. It'd just be you purposely overlooking something obvious.
 

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Thanks, I forgot that and the fact that usually goes up against seasoned war veterans and he is only 17

The best part to me, he's only 17 meaning he's still got room to grow!
 

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Most of the base that arent known sasuge wankers already know this. Good thread! They seem to require constant reminders.
 

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Calling Sasuke a genius is like calling Michael Jordan (the NBA player, not the NB user), Larry Bird, or Magic Johnson a genius.
 

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He's smarter than most, that's a given. Perhaps not on Indra's level, but whether you agree about Sasuke's intellect or not, he's most likely Indra's reincarnation
 

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dude indra had battle sense it means he was a genius when it comes to battle get it? like for example sasuke vs deidara,sasuke vs danzou all battle sense.
 

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Sasuke isn't a "genius". When "genius" is used to describe someone, it usually means "prodigy", referring to their abilities and such; not their intellect.

When if comes to intellect, Sasuke isn't even top 10, and to our knowledge, neither is Indra. In the NV, "genius" usually isn't used to refer to intelligence at all.

when it comes to intellect you say? re- read sasuke vs deidara and sasuke vs danzou, indra had battle sense and sasuke to has battle sense get it?
 

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when it comes to intellect you say? re- read sasuke vs deidara and sasuke vs danzou, indra had battle sense and sasuke to has battle sense get it?
They just have adept on-the-go tactics. They're not genius tacticians like Shikamaru, rather on-the-go tacticians like Hashirama and Goku.
 

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Calling Sasuke a genius is like calling Michael Jordan (the NBA player, not the NB user), Larry Bird, or Magic Johnson a genius.

The word genius can be labeled by different aspects. The way you are using genius is for a person's intelligence, their ability to gather, retain, and pally the knowledge a person has. But you can judge someone to be a genius in any aspect.

Michael Jordan may not be a genius in Quantum physics and he's a genius in the sport of basketball. If you judged a fish's intelligence based on it's ability to climb a tree, you'll think that fish is an idiot. But if you judge its intelligence on its ability to swim, you'll think that fish is a genius. The metaphor applies here: Sasuke is a genius in the sense of battle and fighting. He's not a book smart genius.
 

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They just have adept on-the-go tactics. They're not genius tacticians like Shikamaru, rather on-the-go tacticians like Hashirama and Goku.

Considering that Shikamaru looked up to the guy, Orochimaru called his own genius pitiful before his, Jiraiya referred to him as a Natural Prodigy, Lee called him a Genius that surpasses the imagination, Kakashi called him a Genius and an extremely talented individual, Chee called him a rare genius - it kinda renders whatever you say void and nothing but your own concocted story.

Please, spare us.
 
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