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Thanks for the compliment. I also like some of the revisions you made. I, of course, won't say much. Just because this is an opinion like mine :). Still... pretty good though! Now... if more people edited these stats like you without b*tching, moaning and carrying on, that would be awesome.
Thank you very much for reply ;), and I am glad you enjoyed reading some revisions I made :win:
Yeah, if more people edited these stats like me without b*tching, moaning and carrying one, that would be much better discussion and nice read =D

Can you list which stats for each character you like ?, I would really be happy to hear that

Take care
 
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Hinata is not Neji, and Sakura is the 5th Hokage Apprentice. Now wonder again.
Never said Hinata was Neji.
Apprentice of the 5th Hokage or not - Hinata's Taijutsu isn't less than Sakura's.

Sakura has raw power and strength - perhaps. Her evasion is still poor compared with others; despite her training. She has little style, no real technique beyond the Chakra Enhanced Strength Tsunade gave her and her speed is laughable.
It's crude but effective, true. But she doesn't have Tsunade's skill when it comes to fighting beyond one punch. Thinking it over, I'm getting a flash back of when Sakura went off to 'kill' Sasuke with a poisoned kunai... yeah, that was stellar example of her fighting skills and intelligence.

Hinata's gone on develop her own moves and techniques as well, surely that counts for something?
The latest chapters in the manga she's held her own - on the front line - alongside Neji, her father etc. He announced she was capable of protecting Neji, just as Neji protects her.
So yeah... whilst she's not Neji - the Prodigy - she's not the same girl she was back in Part I, she's been holding her own and has grown and her taijutsu is stronger than before.

As for the Sasori fight - it was more or less down to Chiyo and the fact Sasori half did himself in - not Sakura's prowess at taijutsu.
 
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Never said Hinata was Neji.
Apprentice of the 5th Hokage or not - Hinata's Taijutsu isn't less than Sakura's.

Sakura has raw power and strength - perhaps. Her evasion is still poor compared with others; despite her training. She has little style, no real technique beyond the Chakra Enhanced Strength Tsunade gave her and her speed is laughable.
It's crude but effective, true. But she doesn't have Tsunade's skill when it comes to fighting beyond one punch. Thinking it over, I'm getting a flash back of when Sakura went off to 'kill' Sasuke with a poisoned kunai... yeah, that was stellar example of her fighting skills and intelligence.

Hinata's gone on develop her own moves and techniques as well, surely that counts for something?
The latest chapters in the manga she's held her own - on the front line - alongside Neji, her father etc. He announced she was capable of protecting Neji, just as Neji protects her.
So yeah... whilst she's not Neji - the Prodigy - she's not the same girl she was back in Part I, she's been holding her own and has grown and her taijutsu is stronger than before.

As for the Sasori fight - it was more or less down to Chiyo and the fact Sasori half did himself in - not Sakura's prowess at taijutsu.
I don't know. If Hinata has some special "Taijutsu Style" you need to be damn good at it if you wanna improve that stat. Your argument is like comparing Kung Fu with Boxing. Even if The Kung Fu has more thousand years of development and theory behind and an extensive culture, even with the most strong Kung Fu defensive move, the most offensive boxing move will break the defense.

Both fighting style are great, Boxing is more raw, Kung Fu is more sophisticated... Yet there is one point where you fail... Sakura evasive skill is far one of the greatests in Konoha, and that was demonstrated too in the Sasori battle. Sakura is almost an expert in the area, where Sakura evades Hinata would only be defending.

Come on, almost every people should know that Hyuugas tendence is to block attacks, that's why Neji died u_u.
 

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Sakura's intelligence 5 while,neji's 3.5? Is this a joke?

Neji was the gifted genius at least give him a little credit and not totally degrade him.He should have 4.5-5 intelligence while sakura should have 2.3-3.5 intelligence.
 

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Sakura's intelligence 5 while,neji's 3.5? Is this a joke?

Neji was the gifted genius at least give him a little credit and not totally degrade him.He should have 4.5-5 intelligence while sakura should have 2.3-3.5 intelligence.
Here I agree with Neji having more intel than Sakura, he is indeed a genius where it comes to taking decisions, that's why he got the Jounin Rank.

But... Sakura, 2.3-3.5 intel? Don't make me laugh, from the academy she has been a genius in terms of intelligence, she got perfect grades.
 

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Here I agree with Neji having more intel than Sakura, he is indeed a genius where it comes to taking decisions, that's why he got the Jounin Rank.

But... Sakura, 2.3-3.5 intel? Don't make me laugh, from the academy she has been a genius in terms of intelligence, she got perfect grades.
Ok I agree that I went a little far fetched.Sakura was good in chakra control but not exceptional in intelligence.Sasuke was more intelligent than her.She just wasn't the same in intelligence as naruto.She was normal.I give her a 3-3.5 in intelligence not more nor less.If i have to go further than 4 ,but hardly.
 

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Sakura should have a 4.5 or a 5 in ninjutsu though since Shizune had a 4.5 and she said Sakura has surpassed her and has now learned jutsu that she couldn't. Also Chap 633 = Sakura having probably a 5 in Ninjutsu.
 

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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Fourth54.524555232.5


you have his strength, stamina and speed right, but 4 intelligence??? naruto is still dumb anything the highest it should be is 3, his taijutsu should be a little bit lower too, everytime he try to fight someone that matters with taijutsu, he got his ass handed to him lol
 
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I don't know. If Hinata has some special "Taijutsu Style" you need to be damn good at it if you wanna improve that stat. Your argument is like comparing Kung Fu with Boxing. Even if The Kung Fu has more thousand years of development and theory behind and an extensive culture, even with the most strong Kung Fu defensive move, the most offensive boxing move will break the defense.

Both fighting style are great, Boxing is more raw, Kung Fu is more sophisticated... Yet there is one point where you fail... Sakura evasive skill is far one of the greatests in Konoha, and that was demonstrated too in the Sasori battle. Sakura is almost an expert in the area, where Sakura evades Hinata would only be defending.

Come on, almost every people should know that Hyuugas tendence is to block attacks, that's why Neji died u_u.
yeah the hyuga's should have the best taijutsu, that's what they do. hinata's should not be lower than sakura's especially with her learning how to use the 64 palms technique like neji. all sakura do is throw hard punches in all honesty(tho her punches be on point.). Plus you say sakara's evasive skill is one of the greatest, last time i checked all sakara did is get poisoned by sasori lol(just a lil joke, don't get bent out of shape)
 
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total Bullshit

SM naruto Taijutsu is one of the best still u gave him 4.5 ???? and sasugay 5 ??? u must be real stupid

also Naruto's hand sign atleast deserves 4
and genjutsu Yes he cant do a great genjutsu but he can do above average genjutsu with help of Maa & Paa
also He is Perfect jin so he wont be affected by any genjutsu which helps him to break any genjutsu
Naruto should get 3.5 in genjutsu

also Except Naruto, LEE & obito no one from this list deserves 5 in speed
 

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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Fourth54.524555232.5
Naruto his table is to low imo.
His Taijutsu has become really good.
Intelligence is at least at Sasuke's lvl now or maybe even higher.
His handseals are fast as well. When he does them quick, you cant even see him do Shadowclone handseals, due to the speed.

Naruto:
DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Fourth5524.55554.536

This would be more correct imo and if you can count stuff like summonings and cloaks, than you can up genjutsu to at least 4 with the frog genjutsu, but I remember someone on this base, saying something like that such things cant be counted in databook stats, so I left genjutsu at 2.

How does Sasuke have genjutsu 5 btw, when he doesnt even use Tsukuyomi, due to being bad at it/not having it?
 
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LOL no... I know it's your opinion and all (and I should respect that) but unless you provide me with scans where nagato has proven himself a 5 rating intellect, then it makes no sense. clearly he is a 3.5. the reason I say that is because it's very obvious that 90% of nagato's training with pervy sage was just on peaking his ninjutsu. strong enough to where he won't need to be smart or battle genius. however jiraiya, kakashi and naruto all managed to used intellect tactics to exploit nagato. (the intel did aid them thou). lucky for nagato, he was strong enough in ninjutsu and avg intellect to pin down 2 out of the 3. but naruto who had higher intellect & great ninjutsu was clearly too much for nagato's 6 pains.
(of course I'm referencing the pain's. so clearly nagato is limited to beating naruto, instead of full health nagato)

I also should question why you gave nagato a 5 for speed and 4.5 for taijutsu? come one dude. both naruto and sasuke are faster with better taijutsu skill, where nagato should be lower. I know I'm crapping on nagato but someone needs to do it. too many people are glorifying his non existent features and i'm tired of it. nagato is only a threat solely because of his 5 stamina and 5 ninjutsu.
 
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Hashirama:
- Ninjutsu =5
- Taijutsu =5
- Genjutsu = 5
- Strength = 5
- Speed = 4
- Intelligence = 4.5
- Stamina = 5
- Handsigns = 5
Total = 38.5

Tobirama:
- Ninjutsu = 5
- Taijutsu = 4.5
- Genjutsu = 3.5
- Strength = 4.5
- Speed = 5
- Stamina = 5
- Intelligence = 5
- Handseals = 5
= 37.5

Minato:
- Ninjutsu = 5
- Taijutsu = 4.5
- Genjutsu = 3.5
- Strength = 5
- Speed = 5
- Stamina = 5
- Intelligence = 5
- Handsigns = 5
Total = 38
 

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Soo basically these stats mean jack and shit....I've professed this before though people seem to keep thinking that they actually mean something.

Naruto a 32.5? Erm what? Asuma had something like 31.5 and I rate Asuma a fodder compared to Naruto. So sorry these stats are absolute bullshit. And that's just with sage mode lol.

The max stat of Naruto's Ninjutsu 5 is apparently equal to Sasuke's own 5....yeah right. They give out a max level of five like its some kind of piece of candy. Naruto has demonstrated skills of chakra manipulation superior to most other characters currently alive, even dead ones. Ergo he warrants a 5+ in that skill bracket. Just by stats you can't say that Sasuke is equal to Naruto in ninjutsu that's just a joke.
 

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yeah the hyuga's should have the best taijutsu, that's what they do. hinata's should not be lower than sakura's especially with her learning how to use the 64 palms technique like neji. all sakura do is throw hard punches in all honesty(tho her punches be on point.). Plus you say sakara's evasive skill is one of the greatest, last time i checked all sakara did is get poisoned by sasori lol(just a lil joke, don't get bent out of shape)
You are overestimating the hyugas, gentle fist isn't the be all #1 taijustu in the ninja world, its just complements well with the Hyuga's byakugan.
Being a Hyuga doesn't make Hinata an awesome taijustu user, Rock Lee strong fist technique is just as viable.

just because Hinata learned how to use 64palms doesn't mean her taijustu is at neji level or sakuras, count how many Jubii monsters she killed.....one

compared to Sakura's attack, which killed idk a ton more.....

Sakura got poisoned by Sasori on purpose if i remember, and besides due to the surprise techniques of puppet master, its usually impossible to dodge unless your a puppet master yourself, but Chiyo stated that Sakura was being evasive on her own skill.

Also Taijustu, isn't just about the technique, it has bases in speed and power, which Sakura excels more than Hinata.

This isnt to dis, on Hinata, she's a skilled ninja, but she's not on Sakura level, but thats to be expected when ur trained by a legendary Saninn/Hokage. But Hinata is still part of the rookies, and the rookies have always been exceptional ninja.
 
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Soo basically these stats mean jack and shit....I've professed this before though people seem to keep thinking that they actually mean something.

Naruto a 32.5? Erm what? Asuma had something like 31.5 and I rate Asuma a fodder compared to Naruto. So sorry these stats are absolute bullshit. And that's just with sage mode lol.

The max stat of Naruto's Ninjutsu 5 is apparently equal to Sasuke's own 5....yeah right. They give out a max level of five like its some kind of piece of candy. Naruto has demonstrated skills of chakra manipulation superior to most other characters currently alive, even dead ones. Ergo he warrants a 5+ in that skill bracket. Just by stats you can't say that Sasuke is equal to Naruto in ninjutsu that's just a joke.
You must be on crack or something. Naruto's ninjutsu arsenal is less diverse and less numerous than Sasuke's, yet you believe his stat should be higher?

Hashirama:
- Ninjutsu =5
- Taijutsu =5
- Genjutsu = 5
- Strength = 5
- Speed = 4
- Intelligence = 4.5
- Stamina = 5
- Handsigns = 5
Total = 38.5

Tobirama:
- Ninjutsu = 5
- Taijutsu = 4.5
- Genjutsu = 3.5
- Strength = 4.5
- Speed = 5
- Stamina = 5
- Intelligence = 5
- Handseals = 5
= 37.5

Minato:
- Ninjutsu = 5
- Taijutsu = 4.5
- Genjutsu = 3.5
- Strength = 5
- Speed = 5
- Stamina = 5
- Intelligence = 5
- Handsigns = 5
Total = 38
You gave Tobirama a 4.5 in strength when he could casually bust a wall by laying his hand on it, yet gave Minato a 5 when he doesn't even have a single strength feat. There is no way Hashirama is slower than a 5 btw.

Yes I am up to date. It doesn't matter that he's back on the fence now, he was still stupid enough to go against his Itachi's wishes. And at what point did I mention Danzou? I'm talking about in general.
He almost went blind because he couldn't adequately monitor his health, a shining example of stupidity.
Is Itachi god or something? How does going against his wishes, something Sasuke did not even know, a sign of stupidity? Isn't becoming a mindless sheep who believes in lies a bigger sign of that? Sasuke went blind because that is what the Mangekyo does. Should he have not used it and die to the Kage's and Danzo, when he new a brand new pair of eyes were waiting at home for him?
 

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You must be on crack or something. Naruto's ninjutsu arsenal is less diverse and less numerous than Sasuke's, yet you believe his stat should be higher?
Its not about diversity its about what tier their skills are working at. Sasuke doesn't even use his old chidori variants which haven't changed since early part II. He doesn't even need to shape change his chakra for most of his techniques as they are an instinctual process IE Susanoo.

Naruto's own ninjutsu skills have advanced by leaps and bounds. He has demonstrated skills which completely surpass sasuke. Sage mode, massive rasenshuriken, Sharing the kyuubi chakra with everyone while being capable of using it remotely to protect and as an offensive weapon. Naruto's own nature transformation abilities outstrip Sasuke's own without his sharingan Amaterasu so much its laughable.

If you can point to ANY feat of Sasuke's that matches this raw mastery of chakra that Naruto has demonstrated I will gladly shut up about this. But the fact is you can't. So...jog on.
 
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