Hiruzen is kinda stupid.

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Yes, he stopped the Golem from using it's attack effectively.

But why did he use Katon vs Katon, Raiton vs raiton ect?
Shouldn't he have countered them according to their weakness? Isn't that a lesson in the ninja Academy? Suiton>Katon?

Dude, He didn't have the time for that timing where he switches and contacts his other clones to use the elements against other elements... He just had to protect the others not hurting Spiral Zetsu and that monster. Besides, someone as Hiruzen doesn't stand a chance even he did hit that monster.
 

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Anyone else with 5 elements that's ever been to Shinobi starting school would have fodderized it.

hahahaha exactly.

Hiruzen is the only one who posses the "Five Elements" without a Rinnegan

HATERS GONNA FUKING HATE.

I'm done :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
 

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I have absolutely no idea. It would have made so much sense.
 

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I think kishi was more concentrated on just giving hiruzen an actual feat, and not on the logic of the situation.
 

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I sort of agree... But I liked how the manga showed it aswell. Prime Hiruzen + 5 shadow clones and Emma is a beast.
 

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Countering only mattered because he was trying to protect others.
 

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Countering only mattered because he was trying to protect others.

Re-read that and pretend you're arguing with someone else.

Just doesn't cut it , does it?
 

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No matter , Karin did what he could't do .

Karin didn't destroy the statue. Just some of its arms. It was Oro who paralyzed spiral masked man with the Curse Mark and disabled the statue.

If Hiruzen was able to get in close range he could do the same thing with Enma. If you really think about it, it was Hiruzen's protection of the SA that allowed Karin to show her feat.

XD
 

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Karin didn't destroy the statue. Just some of its arms. It was Oro who paralyzed spiral masked man with the Curse Mark and disabled the statue.

If Hiruzen was able to get in close range he could do the same thing with Enma. If you really think about it, it was Hiruzen's protection of the SA that allowed Karin to show her feat.

XD

It was Hiruzens incompetence that allowed Karin to finish the job.
 

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It was Hiruzens incompetence that allowed Karin to finish the job.

Karin didn't finish the job. She had assistance from Orochimaru and Suigetsu. But the masked spiral man is still alive.

So yeah.
 

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Then people would have been downplaying Hiruzen by saying he had to use attacks of the opposite element to counter the Buddha. In this way, we see Hiruzen's mastery over the elements by perfectly countering a technique with the same technique and he still stopped the attack so I see nothing wrong with this.

What this guy said. The 5 Kage with the Ninja Alliance couldn't do sh*t. Hiruzen stopped it single handedly. Haters gonna hate
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Maybe we're supposed to take Mei's statement literally, and the statue actually absorbs chakra:
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"My jutsu aren't working!.."
Which would make sense, Hiruzen not wanting the statue to benefit from the attack.
 

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His purpose is to counter it and he succeed in his purpose so what's wrong about that?
if it wasn't for him, the others would be dead by now.
 

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Clearly kishi created the situation to show how powerful hiruzen really is. If you carefully look at the scale in which his jutsu are used, they were 20-40x bigger than hiruzen himself. The fact that a single hiruzen had chakra strength to match a hashirama cell enhanced, senjutsu chakra enhance giant buddah is incredible..

Instead of searching for the negatives you should check out the positives in that situation.

Hiruzen is the only shinobi ever seen or mentioned.. HELL, EVEN CREATED, that can use all 5 elements without any form of doujutsu or KKG.. That alone is reason enough to be referred to as God Of Shinobi!!!



In short:

STOP HATING!!!!
 

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he couldnt have destroyed it ayways
 

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hahahaha exactly.

Hiruzen is the only one who posses the "Five Elements" without a Rinnegan

HATERS GONNA FUKING HATE.

I'm done :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD


Kakuzu might want to have a word with you and Hiruzen about that claim
 

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So basically, the only excuses here are:

"Hirzuen didn't have time to"

So Hiruzen can make 4 Shadow Clones and do 5 different Techniques simultaneously, but can't remember which Element destroys what?

"Hiruzen countered it so it didn't matter"

What if it did matter? what if the Buddha overpowered Hiruzen, I'd bet that many people would jump off the Hiruzen bandwagon, and those left behind would scream "Its an @sspull because Kishi didn't make Hiruzen attack according to weaknesses!"

At this point, the Hiruzen fanboys are insulting Hiruzen more than the "haters"
 
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