Gai is faster then Kamui

[AlphaScythian]

Pretty sure that's only the case when trying to forcefully absorb someone whereas black zetsu is pretty much bonded to obito, and the fact remains that obito never said his kamui was any slower.

WTF this means? You think things naturally get into another dimension?
He absorbs everything forcefully, and extra shit affects the speed.
Now he has bijuus in him and while zetsu is attached he isnt weightless.

He did say kamui was slower, he didnt specify why, but we can conclude that.
If he can best orbs with his physical speed Then why bother with S/T?

 

[shelke]

So many people here who can't interpret the manga. Kakashi used kamui on Obito as well, so Guy being faster than Kamui is wrong. Guy couldn't land a hit on Obito so again wrong. Guy has no starting point and was in gates when he intercepted the black ball this is hardly a speed feat. Stop the wank.

Pretty much this. So I do not agree with the thread.

 

[Draphsin]

@Draphsin, Madara stated his attacks are quicker than Kakashi's Kamui, whether he's warping himself or someone else [

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]. He was confident that he'd be able to hit them both with his orbs and Gai's shown his striking speed is quicker than his orbs. Result? Gai's striking speed is quicker than Kakashi's Kamui.

Madara never once stated that his attacks are faster than kakashi's kamui. He merely created a strategy which can possibly counter the duo [attacking them both at once]. Regardless there were two kamui users facing him so he assumed that one would try to distract him while the other uses kamui. & Madara is always confident, it's his personality, look at his reaction to many of his failures. Just because he was confident that he could hit both doesnt mean that he's faster than both. Gai could've already been on the way to kakashi's location, gai could've used a high level shunshin [something that can't be done regularly] to intercept the orb.

Regardless kakashi was distracted because he was warping obito, that's the only reason why the orbs got as far as they did. Gai can move faster than the orbs [which are only stated to be faster than obito's kamui when teleporting], nothing else was confirmed in this chapter.

And when was it stated it's not? They're both portrayed to be the same speed [

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]. And it was never a concern for Madara, to not let Kakashi doing the warping rather then Obito because he is supposedly much faster at doing it, as you claim [

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]. Madara took both possibilities into consideration, and knew his attacks were too fast for both them either way.

No they arent, it's a fact that obito takes longer to warp others, & kakashi's kamui mainly consists of warping someone else. The 1 & 2 are not proof that kakashi's kamui is the same speed as obito's kamui when warping himself.

& Madara was simply overconfident, he's never seen the speed of kakashi's kamui so he has literally no way to prove this confidence. I never said that kakashi is faster at warping, I said that kakashi is faster when warping others. Point here is that obito & kakashi were using two different kamui speeds, therefore what he said has absolutely nothing to do with kakashi's warping speed.

& As for the 3rd scan, I already explained that madara was merely countering the strategy of two kamui users, it has nothing to do with his attacks being faster than all forms of kamui. He didn't know kakashi's kamui speed so saying that he knew his attacks are faster than both of them is false as it's never been stated or implied.

 

[Penguin]

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Off panel feat is an off panel feat. Not too mention Obito is half dead, and Kakashi's reserves are dwindling.

 

[shelke]

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- Am I the only one who believes that it's the 'weight' of the Kyubi that prevented his jump? Stating that gai can move fasterr than Karin can detect chakra is pretty far-fetched, when Karin couldn't sense when Sasuke was sucked in by Obito.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Nah, he isn't. Off panel feats are too fishy to come to proper conclusions.

 

[shelke]

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He trolled KCM nardo no diff from 1 meter away.
Obito deflected those orbs with his staff and two at once.
Obito also stated he could kamui minato before FTG.

Manga stated the speed of his teleportation is variable and that time is increased when teleporting extra stuff.
Atm he has BZ, kurama and bijuu heads as extra luggage not to mention he just bounced back from death.

This pretty much ended the thread and the fact that Obito couldn't perform Kamui whilst having Juubi inside of it. It means, bijuu Chakra drastically slowed down his speed here, something we saw with Minato as well.

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

All Hail Might Gai!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm so over hyped to see Gai finally going 8th gates!!!!! This chapter proves Gai>> Kakashi& Obito and Gai will be on par if not exceed Madara with 8th Gates because he was able to counter Bijuu balls with Pirmary Lotus!

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

Nah, he isn't. Off panel feats are too fishy to come to proper conclusions.

Not in this case, Gai was not only able to intercept to save Kakashi before the incoming Bijuu balls but he was able to deflect with Primary Lotus

 

[Flawž]

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He trolled KCM nardo no diff from 1 meter away.
Obito deflected those orbs with his staff and two at once.
Obito also stated he could kamui minato before FTG.

Manga stated the speed of his teleportation is variable and that time is increased when teleporting extra stuff.
Atm he has BZ, kurama and bijuu heads as extra luggage not to mention he just bounced back from death.

Lol a desperate taijutsu thread. We don't even know Gai's starting point off-panel to accurately judge his speed. Even Minato was moving during Madara's attack, so let alone some random guy coming off-panel lol

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Off panel feat is an off panel feat. Not too mention Obito is half dead, and Kakashi's reserves are dwindling.

These just Ended the thread.

Kamui is much faster than Guy, This is ridiculous.

 

[Ovan]

I figured he was faster.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I don't see the connection.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Not in this case, Gai was not only able to intercept to save Kakashi before the incoming Bijuu balls but he was able to deflect with Primary Lotus

Like I said, you have no idea where he started his run, so we cant automatically assume he's faster than Kamui based off that predicament. Where did it say he used primary lotus as well? I dont see it. Besides, if he was faster than Kamui, he should have soloed Obito, which he didn't. Not only that, but Gai isn't even using the 7th gate (his pupils go white but they weren't this chapter) so saying Gai even below the 7th gate is faster than Kamui is rather ridiculous.

 

[KingHashirama]

Kamui's speed was overhyped by the fans....

There are a whole lot of people who have faster speed yo.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Kamui's speed was overhyped by the fans....

There are a whole lot of people who have faster speed yo.

Lol no.
St users r fstr than ur fav.

 

[blazekev90]

Lol @ people mentioning Gai's starting point, as if that really makes a difference.

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

Like I said, you have no idea where he started his run, so we cant automatically assume he's faster than Kamui based off that predicament. Where did it say he used primary lotus as well? I dont see it. Besides, if he was faster than Kamui, he should have soloed Obito, which he didn't. Not only that, but Gai isn't even using the 7th gate (his pupils go white but they weren't this chapter) so saying Gai even below the 7th gate is faster than Kamui is rather ridiculous.

Yes it does matter, this chapter said so, Gai is faster than Kamui when it comes to deliver, you get the wrong idea, I don't meant he can solo but rather Gai will put up somewhat tough situation against Obito because he always start off with Kamui himself so that nobody can't touch him.

So in essence, Gai can easily avoid the Kamui.

Also I meant Dynamic Entry but thats what I'm assuming cause what else did he counter against Bijuu ball when he saved Kakashi.

 

[Flawž]

Lol @ people mentioning Gai's starting point, as if that really makes a difference.

Starting from a foot away vs starting from the other side of the battle does make a difference genius.

Kamui is faster than guy.

 

[KingHashirama]

Lol no.
St users r fstr than ur fav.

Naruto > Obito..... when it comes to speed. So i suggest you might wanna review what you claim.

 

[Draphsin]

Naruto > Obito..... when it comes to speed. So i suggest you might wanna review what you claim.

Obito > Naruto in speed, naruto can't teleport.