[VS] Senju Hashirama Vs Minato Namikaze

[KingHashirama]

-Knows how to deal with a sensor/FTG user

- Has mokuton

- Wood clones that by themselves are stronger than Minato..


Its not even a good matchup.

 

[Oblivionx]

Really Tobirama define hashirama to run to the battlefield lmao he said that before Hashirama even said that XD

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Madara was already shown to use Hashirama healing powers for a blade wound

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He was in the range of the jutsu it exploded he didn't run anywere lol

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Like i claim before minato wouldn't be able to move around in sleeping pollen defensive move

1st: ok i admit that... but tobirama did kinda insult hashirama time and time again... e.g in kage summit in hashirama's flashbacks... so in the end it was respect and not scared...
2nd: yes madara was shown to do that but same madara needed to dodge tobirama's hirashingiri... now you know why i kept using the word "fetal blow"....! a blow to heart won't be healed as easily as a sword through hand...
3rd: and what does that prove... he used mokuton to defend himself against the blast.... he was on a god damn mokujin whose hand blocked the TBB...

 

[Minator93]

Hashirama has nothing to beat Minato with U_U

All of long range or big attacks have no effect since Minato's the fastest+greatest reactions+ftg+sensor U_U

Minato can close in on Hashirama and kill him in a taijutsu spat.

 

[KingHashirama]

1st: ok i admit that... but tobirama did kinda insult hashirama time and time again... e.g in kage summit in hashirama's flashbacks... so in the end it was respect and not scared...
2nd: yes madara was shown to do that but same madara needed to dodge tobirama's hirashingiri... now you know why i kept using the word "fetal blow"....! a blow to heart won't be healed as easily as a sword through hand...
3rd: and what does that prove... he used mokuton to defend himself against the blast.... he was on a god damn mokujin whose hand blocked the TBB...

Tobirama is his little brother.. he is trying to not be tough on him.. its against Hashirama's personality.. he is a gentle guy.. However, he can let people step all over him, even his little brother.. but he will put you in check if you try to f*ck with something he cares about. Tobirama being scared of his older brother isn't something fans should be offended with.. its just the culture..



Notice that he created the Mokuton to protect himself in an instant... rivaling FTG.. he has the ability to create FORESTS in an instant... rivaling FTG..

 

[Oblivionx]

Hashirama has nothing to beat Minato with U_U

All of long range or big attacks have no effect since Minato's the fastest+greatest reactions+ftg+sensor U_U

Minato can close in on Hashirama and kill him in a taijutsu spat.

yeah.... manga has proved it that ftg users and even obito with kamui can't be beaten without engaging in close range combat...
i actually wanted to make a list of times these 3 were hit with a fetal attack in manga and not even once they were few feet away from attacker... even sage obito and sage madara defeated ftg users in close range combat....

 

[shelke]

All forms of Minato - KCM - BM - lose badly and I mean very badly to Hashirama because of Wood Dragon's ability to nullify ALL Ninjutsu and suppress Bijuu Chakra. To think Minato's fanbase would go this over-board.

This form - base with SM - is literally annihilated off the face of the earth.

 

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[Oblivionx]

Tobirama is his little brother.. he is trying to not be tough on him.. its against Hashirama's personality.. he is a gentle guy.. However, he can let people step all over him, even his little brother.. but he will put you in check if you try to f*ck with something he cares about. Tobirama being scared of his older brother isn't something fans should be offended with.. its just the culture..



Notice that he created the Mokuton to protect himself in an instant... rivaling FTG.. he has the ability to create FORESTS in an instant... rivaling FTG..

yeah that's a good point... tobirama is his little brother so why would anybody be scared of their brother?? and tobirama wasn't going to f**k anything... actually tobirama was the mind behind hashirama...! but anyway lets discuss feats and not personalities here...
and did you just say mokuton is as fast as ftg??

 

[Oblivionx]

All forms of Minato - KCM - BM - lose badly and I mean very badly to Hashirama because of Wood Dragon's ability to nullify ALL Ninjutsu and suppress Bijuu Chakra. To think Minato's fanbase would go this over-board.

This form - base with SM - is literally annihilated off the face of the earth.

yeah wood dragon nullifies only what it catches....! and BM minato wins rather easily.... anyway it's not like you even think minato can defeat hebi sasuke so no point in debating with you...

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yeah and i admitted that hashirama is the strongest... but minato is the fastest...

 

[Oblivionx]

-Knows how to deal with a sensor/FTG user

- Has mokuton

- Wood clones that by themselves are stronger than Minato..


Its not even a good matchup.

minato knows everything about mokuton... hashirama himself told him....
has ftg and variants, uzmaki seals not to mention RDS as last resort, rasengan etc
has clones which by themselves can show hashirama hell...
n finally yeah, it's not a good match up... minato is too fast...

 

[shelke]

^ Are you serious? The guy made SIX Mokuton-Bushins when he was still concentrating on the Barrier to restrain Juubi - God knows how many he can make without this restriction. All these Bushins beat Minato to a pulp. He would never be able to sense which one is Hashirama, as only EMS has shown that ability. All those clones can use Mokuton to suppress anything Minato has to offer.

Naruto was caught in BM very easily and was losing his cloak damn fast. Imagine Flower Tree World followed by Twin Mokuton Dragons, Mokuton Restraints ... you serious? This blond fruit doesn't stand a chance in hell.

 

[KingHashirama]

yeah that's a good point... tobirama is his little brother so why would anybody be scared of their brother?? and tobirama wasn't going to f**k anything... actually tobirama was the mind behind hashirama...! but anyway lets discuss feats and not personalities here...
and did you just say mokuton is as fast as ftg??

@Bold, then you obviously have no clue about asian cultures.

Tobirama was the mind behind Hashirama.. even though Hashirama was the one giving orders to even Tobirama?


Is instant not fast as instant?

 

[~Sky~]

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Hashirama's SM >> FTG

 

[Oblivionx]

^ Are you serious? The guy made SIX Mokuton-Bushins when he was still concentrating on the Barrier to restrain Juubi - God knows how many he can make without this restriction. All these Bushins beat Minato to a pulp. He would never be able to sense which one is Hashirama, as only EMS has shown that ability. All those clones can use Mokuton to suppress anything Minato has to offer.

Naruto was caught in BM very easily and was losing his cloak damn fast. Imagine Flower Tree World followed by Twin Mokuton Dragons, Mokuton Restraints ... you serious? This blond fruit doesn't stand a chance in hell.

ok although i wasn't expecting you to reply but here's the thing... minato can make one clone and as we all know his shunshin > hashirama and with ftg uses the same technique he used against sage madara and all clones poof... or why not do this at the start of battle... will hashirama be able to react?? although if you are considering BM minato then he can make as many clones... also nothing you mentioned is fast enough to catch minato so hashirama will be just wasting chakra although i know it doesn't matter but still....
and that blond is hailed as the fastest shinobi so tell me again how those restraints going to restrain him??

 

[Bogard]

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Hashirama's SM >> FTG

FTG is just a jutsu. The effectiveness of a jutsu depends on the user. In this case, while the jutsu FTG itself is instant, the user himself isn't, so the probability in which a FTG user can touch the opponent after teleporting depends on the speed and reflexive speed of the user, all that in which Tobirama is inferior to Minato, not to mention Minato possess SM himself

 

[Oblivionx]

@Bold, then you obviously have no clue about asian cultures.

Tobirama was the mind behind Hashirama.. even though Hashirama was the one giving orders to even Tobirama?


Is instant not fast as instant?

ok since i have no clue of Asian culture so why not leave speculations and personalities out and use feats now...
oh wait you said mokuton is as fast as ftg... well i give up... now i really don't know how hashirama was defeated by madara even without SM...!

 

[Oblivionx]

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Hashirama's SM >> FTG

Bogard explained the rest but i'll add that i already know SM is what puts hashirama above tobirama, but tobirama's execution of jutsus is slower than minato... also minato's ftg lvl 2 is a lot better....

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Hashirama would win, but Mokuton isn't overwhelming him at all. Latest chapter shows a combination i always used to think could be used by Minato not only to dodge Mokuton but start a rapide close range attack in an instant

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Hashirama throwing his long range Mokuton in Minato's face would be useless since Minato could(like above) just throw a kunai in Hashirama's direction not only to easily dodge the frontal attack but amorse a close range FTG attack

Hashirama's Mokuton can be omnidirectional [

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]. He doesn't actually have to shoot it in Minato's face, as he can sprout it from pretty much anywhere and completely alter landscapes.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Add the other three Hokages in to help Minato.

They all die as well.

 

[Oblivionx]

Add the other three Hokages in to help Minato.

They all die as well.

now that was beyond trolling but seeing orochimaru's avatar and sig i can understand that...