[VS] Senju Hashirama Vs Minato Namikaze

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Mokuton renders ftg unusable. Bm minato would fare no better.
 

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the deep force emergence would catch and impale minato... or a combo of bringer of darkness and Deep Forest Bloom would surely get minato.

will surely get minato is your opinion which i highly respect but you really didn't consider the title of fastest shinobi here...!
old hiruzen survived that combo and now before you say hashirama wasn't at full power... i'll like to point out few things...
hiruzen was in a confined space.. has nowhere near reaction or speed feats as minato... still made it out alive, so now what minato need to do is, simply through a kunai in any direction and ftg to it... but that's not what actually will happen... the thing is you can't defeat an ftg user without engaging in CQC.. it's a manga fact and has been proved many times...! also what makes you think minato will stand still while hashirama creates his forest?? if i may ask what can hashirama do against move minato used against sage madara??
don't say he'll react... it'll be too funny...!
 

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Restricting KCM/BM is a surefire way to cripple Minato's odds of winning this fight.

Hashirama wins med-diff.

yeah but how??
Having SM, wouldn't evolve Minato a lot more powerful like you think. Hashirama still beats. BM Minato however, would trash on Hashirama.

i don't consider SM a big power up for minato either and hashirama doesn't still beat minato...
Mokuton renders ftg unusable. Bm minato would fare no better.

ok ....! and good day...
 

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I'm a minato fan myself, but you cannot compare a man who tamed 8 tailed beast before sharing it with the other villages.

It's like comparing minato to six path bodies jinchuuriki bijuu Obito.

Overwhelming power
 

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BSM Minato >=SM Hashirama >= BM Minato > Base Hashirama=SM Minato > Base Minato

Imao with restrictions you set, SM Hashirama takes his comfortable easy diff
 

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I'm a minato fan myself, but you cannot compare a man who tamed 8 tailed beast before sharing it with the other villages.

It's like comparing minato to six path bodies jinchuuriki bijuu Obito.

Overwhelming power

well i don't see how you compared sage obito to hashirama.... hashirama will get one shotted against sage obito...
n yes hashirama tamed a lot of tailed beasts because he had move set to do so... mokuton or MS is perfect counter to tailed beasts and not like hashirama captured them at once... i'm simply going by manga and manga portrays one to be strongest and other to be fastest (jubi's jin not included)... to be they are pretty much comparable....
 

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well i don't see how you compared sage obito to hashirama.... hashirama will get one shotted against sage obito...
n yes hashirama tamed a lot of tailed beasts because he had move set to do so... mokuton or MS is perfect counter to tailed beasts and not like hashirama captured them at once... i'm simply going by manga and manga portrays one to be strongest and other to be fastest (jubi's jin not included)... to be they are pretty much comparable....

I didn't compare him to rikudou Obito, I was referring to the one that fought killerbee and kcm naruto.
 

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I didn't compare him to rikudou Obito, I was referring to the one that fought killerbee and kcm naruto.

ok.. i don't wanna turn this into minato vs obito thread so we better stay on topic... and just to let you know if obito uses only the techs he used against naruto and co, i firmly believe minato can beat him...
 

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He simply overwhelms him with his massive Mokuton constructs. He was too many ways.
Hashirama would win, but Mokuton isn't overwhelming him at all. Latest chapter shows a combination i always used to think could be used by Minato not only to dodge Mokuton but start a rapide close range attack in an instant

I'm talking about this action:

Hashirama throwing his long range Mokuton in Minato's face would be useless since Minato could(like above) just throw a kunai in Hashirama's direction not only to easily dodge the frontal attack but amorse a close range FTG attack
 

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Hashirama beats Minato in every form only chance he had was BSM but it's to late now

Hashirama was able to take a 9 tail beast bomb survive it continued battling and went into sage mode so any form of Rasengan Hashirama can handle for sure.
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His Sleeping pollen would make it difficult for minato to move around with any marked FTG Kunai

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Hashirama healing abilities have been seen upon Yamato,Obito, & Hashirama so any techinques would make it much more diffucult to kill Hashirama

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Chakra & Stamina wise clearly Hashirama is better

Minato not winning this
 

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Hashirama would win, but Mokuton isn't overwhelming him at all. Latest chapter shows a combination i always used to think could be used by Minato not only to dodge Mokuton but start a rapide close range attack in an instant

I'm talking about this action:

Hashirama throwing his long range Mokuton in Minato's face would be useless since Minato could(like above) just throw a kunai in Hashirama's direction not only to easily dodge the frontal attack but amorse a close range FTG attack

ok now that you are finally here and are claiming that hashirama wins this then i believe you have a logical explanation of your claim as well...!??
 

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Hashirama beats Minato in every form only chance he had was BSM but it's to late now

Hashirama was able to take a 9 tail beast bomb survive it continued battling and went into sage mode so any form of Rasengan Hashirama can handle for sure.
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His Sleeping pollen would make it difficult for minato to move around with any marked FTG Kunai

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Hashirama healing abilities have been seen upon Yamato,Obito, & Hashirama so any techinques would make it much more diffucult to kill Hashirama

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Chakra & Stamina wise clearly Hashirama is better

Minato not winning this

XD XD finally some senju blood....!
hashirama was able to survive TBB?? XD by that logic minato took on jubidama like it was nothing...
2nd: why do you think minato will throw his kunais beforehand?? he ain't fighting a speedster so he has his kunais in his bag... and as bogard said the move he used against sage madara can be used to counter pollen and attack at the same time...
3rd: SM madara has everything hashirama has and still had to dodge tobirama's hirashingiri which was basically a kunai attack... and if attacks like rasengan can't kill mokuton people then why is yamato considered below the likes of minato, tobirama etc..
also Tsunade was said to have same healing and was torn apart by a branch... nobody is surviving a hole in the heart...........
 

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XD XD finally some senju blood....!
hashirama was able to survive TBB?? XD by that logic minato took on jubidama like it was nothing...
2nd: why do you think minato will throw his kunais beforehand?? he ain't fighting a speedster so he has his kunais in his bag... and as bogard said the move he used against sage madara can be used to counter pollen and attack at the same time...
3rd: SM madara has everything hashirama has and still had to dodge tobirama's hirashingiri which was basically a kunai attack... and if attacks like rasengan can't kill mokuton people then why is yamato considered below the likes of minato, tobirama etc..
also Tsunade was said to have same healing and was torn apart by a branch... nobody is surviving a hole in the heart...........

Moving a tail beast bomb and getting hit by one is 2 different things the juubi tbb made no contact with minato what so every and even if it did it wouldn't have meant anything because he has a edo body flerped on alil bit huh lmao you think throwing a kunai up above will save him i suppose hold your breathe while taking a swing will help huh good luck with that by your logic ftg puts Tobirama above Hashirama but Hashirama had him shitting out brinks 2x in base mode and Minato glazed out too the Strength of his chakra lol Im sorry i didn't know a kunai will kill hashirama if he choices to heal himself with his healing powers & that rasengan is to OP LMAO
 

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then proceed to stomp

so you are saying hashirama raises his hand to perform jutsu and minato slits his throat off... meh..
i get it now...
 

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Moving a tail beast bomb and getting hit by one is 2 different things the juubi tbb made no contact with minato what so every and even if it did it wouldn't have meant anything because he has a edo body flerped on alil bit huh lmao you think throwing a kunai up above will save him i suppose hold your breathe while taking a swing will help huh good luck with that by your logic ftg puts Tobirama above Hashirama but Hashirama had him shitting out brinks 2x in base mode and Minato glazed out too the Strength of his chakra lol Im sorry i didn't know a kunai will kill hashirama if he choices to heal himself with his healing powers & that rasengan is to OP LMAO

1st: hashirama wasn't hit directly either TBB was captured by mokujin and minato can redirect attacks as well... n you really believe that it hashirama is directly hit by a TBB he will survive??? :what:
2nd: nobody said anything about throwing kunai up in the air... i said he throws it towards hashirama with a rasengan in his hand... well you know the rest... also he can throw it out of jutsu range if he plays defensive...
3rd: What makes you think tobirama is tiers below hashirama?? tobirama is little below hashirama and the reason in that his execution time of techniques is not as quick as minato's... tobirama's hirashigiri was dodged by madara with SM... same is applied to hashirama hence SM is what puts hashirama above tobirama...
4th: tobirama respects his brother and admires him... if he was so scared of him then why would he go against his order and try to leave for battlefield when hashirama clearly said they won't go to battlefield till sasuke's clear...
5th: there is no doubt hashirama is strongest shinobi other than jubi's jin but minato is the fastest under same conditions...
6th: yes kunai will kill him... prove to me that a fetal blow with a kunai won't kill him and i'll believe you... also rasengan has defeated by far more no. of shinobi than any other jutsu in entire manga... and SM rasengan, well good luck tanking that...
 

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BM Minato barely wins against Base Hashirama let alone SM Hashirama and yet U think Minato without Kyuubi stands a chance?
 

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BM Minato barely wins against Base Hashirama let alone SM Hashirama and yet U think Minato without Kyuubi stands a chance?

:what:

BM minato would stomp base hashirama, kinda like one shot so don't even go there....

and no i don't think SM minato stands a chance, i think he wins it 6/10...!
 

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1st: hashirama wasn't hit directly either TBB was captured by mokujin and minato can redirect attacks as well... n you really believe that it hashirama is directly hit by a TBB he will survive??? :what:
2nd: nobody said anything about throwing kunai up in the air... i said he throws it towards hashirama with a rasengan in his hand... well you know the rest... also he can throw it out of jutsu range if he plays defensive...
3rd: What makes you think tobirama is tiers below hashirama?? tobirama is little below hashirama and the reason in that his execution time of techniques is not as quick as minato's... tobirama's hirashigiri was dodged by madara with SM... same is applied to hashirama hence SM is what puts hashirama above tobirama...
4th: tobirama respects his brother and admires him... if he was so scared of him then why would he go against his order and try to leave for battlefield when hashirama clearly said they won't go to battlefield till sasuke's clear...
5th: there is no doubt hashirama is strongest shinobi other than jubi's jin but minato is the fastest under same conditions...
6th: yes kunai will kill him... prove to me that a fetal blow with a kunai won't kill him and i'll believe you... also rasengan has defeated by far more no. of shinobi than any other jutsu in entire manga... and SM rasengan, well good luck tanking that...

Really Tobirama define hashirama to run to the battlefield lmao he said that before Hashirama even said that XD
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Madara was already shown to use Hashirama healing powers for a blade wound

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He was in the range of the jutsu it exploded he didn't run anywere lol

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Like i claim before minato wouldn't be able to move around in sleeping pollen defensive move
 
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