The Itachi vs Minato Thread

[Prince Charles]

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Lmfao charles you legend.

lmao bro im da best of da best! simple as that!

 

[Avinash012]

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Exactly that

I don't think it is not possible for Itachi to just let him move freely even after capturing him in his genjutsu,afterall Itachi just wanted to talk with him.

Itachi casting genjutsu on Naruto when he made an eye contact with Itachi makes more sense if u ask me as when standing infront of Itachi,Naruto was not only careful about Itachi's eyes but also his hand signs as well.

 

[Draegod]

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did you even read the thread? It's already proven that Naruto wasn't caught in a genjutsu at that moment, based on his position when Itachi ENDS the genjutsu

It's simple. Idk how it's hard to understand

And twist the genjutsu? what are you talking about? The entire time naruto was in the genjutsu and he didn't know because everything seemed normal. It was only when he rushed at Itachi that he purposefully revealed it to show resistance was futile

SO you are purely speculating when and how the event went but I cannot? There are so many variables to that scene its sad. Ill comment on it later when i have spare time. In your eyes itachi defeats everyone correct? Why didnt he do this imaginary strategy against Kabuto?

 

[AGoodBoy]

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damn this is still going on.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

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damn this is still going on.

Who do you think would win?

Imho itel plays the biggest factor. Im not sure if itachi knows about ftg but if full Intel is given to both minato definitely wins.

 

[Enki420]

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Sasuke isn't Obito. lol​

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so what your saying obito has a MS but cant use genjutsu in battle? show me a scan that says that, cuz sounds to me like your making excuses up. In Naruto 6: Road to Ninja, Obito casts a trial version of the Infinite Tsukuyomi, the "Limited Tsukuyomi" (限定月読, Gentei Tsukuyomi), on Naruto and Sakura, which provides the alternate reality setting of the movie. so he can obviously use tsukuyomi as well.How about when he used it on kakashi(

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[Enki420]

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Because all those people have a sharingan you dumbass. Minato doesn't have one. He can't automatically cancel all genjutsu that's not tsukuyomi, or initiate a genjutsu face off the second itachi does one.
So minato's going to start the battle with sage mode active and his eyes closed...? I mean come on... You guys can't even argue how minato gets past the first genjutsu. Literally every single person who's face itachi, down to kakashi's shadow clone, has been caught in a genjutsu from the onset but minato won't be? :vincent:

and, btw, just to list the 'everyone' i mentioned;
-Orochimaru was caught from the start
-Anko was caught from the start(her genjutsu reversed)
-naruto was caught from the start twice or thrice.
- sasuke was caught from the start (as a kid and in his 1v1 with itachi)
- deidara was caught from the start

the only person who wasn't caught from the very start was kakashi because of the sharingan. IE itachi opted for tsukuyomi because his sharingan would auto-see through other genjutsu making it impossible to incapacitate him with basic genjutsu. In other words no sharingan = no good.

*sasuke broke tsukuyomi. Something minato can't even do.

It takes itachi's sharingan being on for you to be caught. Something he starts every fight with. There is no conceivable scenario where what you're saying is honestly possible. This fight has to start with them facing each other unless one ambushed the other. In which case, the minato the other turns to face the ambusher, minato's caught in a genjutsu.
This of course based on your previous claims


Apart from the sensing, manga canon says you can't do any of those other things lmfao. The only fanfic is believe minato isn't in a genjutsu he has to break from the start. Seeing as that's how manga canon fights with itachi always go unless you possess a dojutsu.

Well since Tsukuyomi requires eye contact to be performed and Minatoo has demonstrated noticeable sensory type abilities similar to Tobirama's, being able sense Naruto's chakra within the Nine-Tails', despite being a great distance away, i think he very easily could fight using just his sensory abilities. Plus Itachi's other genjutsu isnt that crazy as Kurenai was able to cancel his genjutsu simply by biting her lip( as seen here

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). Plus none of the Akatsuki share his blood so none of them would have been able to escape, and he should have been able to take obito down wit it as well since neither obito or madara are direct family members.

 

[Enki420]

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People still say Minato can sense while fighting, despite Kurama said he cant do that. Minato's fans are really ******.

when did he say that?

 

[Enki420]

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Ok Lets start this way

We have no 100 % confirmation that minato is a sensor First of all as the point you mention where kurama asks minato to tell Him to sens is actually Invalid in a way not all ways .. Sasuke felt Naruto s chakra as well From a very far away point because of its magnitude and power however that didn't happend when sasuke focused it was on free nature second of all you should take in to consideration That minato had kyubbi s chakra mixed in ... but you might be right as well i m not really sure anymore since 5 chapter or so ago Minato actually asked for naruto to mix his chakra and minato s chakra with senjutsu ... Why would minato do that If he already had senjutsu

2 of all Itachi has proven himself that he can actually put a sensor in a genjtutsu and as for sm In this chapter i saw Minato not moving for around 14 chapters or soo .. so you can't automaticly assume that His sage mode was activated on an instant on top of that minato can use 1 hand seals but i don't see him summoning those two even here Right now in one of the most difficult spot he was on top of that to summon those two you actually need time jiraya who can summon gabamunta in an instant needed to actually focus his chakra and gather chakra around at that point to summon those two So those two could gather senjutsu for jiraya

3 Of all tsukyomi s nature Is unclear to us yet It seems it works on every target looking at the eyes well you would say This is bullshit because i have no evidence ? well Madara is planing on using the same tsukyomi on the moon right and when people look at it its gona put everysingle one Who actually Looks at it in a genjutsu but we know tsykyomi is short Range and that It requires a ton of chakra to reflect that sharingan on the moon or rather only the jubbi can do that so madara s plan was to use the jubbi itself and i read a thread of yours back then can't really remember when i left the base but i m back but you actually rendered tsukyomi usless agianst minato or smth becuase of a sm theory ( maybe it was minator s thread not really sure ) you can take kabuto as an example on how powerful tsukyomi is Kabuto Is a medic and medics can Focus their entier chakra at one point and are very well known for their chakra control Kaubuto being a top medic possesing senjutsu ( that means he was absorbing chakra constantly ) and yet when he faced itachi he sealed his own vision Idkn what you call That but Its pretty clear too me that the jutsu itself is op and the manga has shown that it can also Kill (kakashi admited this) Madara is planing on taking on the world with the very same jutsu yet Minato is not to be understimated either however The only way i could say this is going itachi s way is because minato has no long range jutsu and without intel on tsukyomi he would be forced to fight closly On top of that itachi s reflexes Shunshin kunai mastery Crow jutsus and his hand seal speed i think it gives him the Edge

proof hes a sensory type without sm

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also says it in the narutowikipedia.

 

[EKSITE]

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ahahahaha how about whats wrong with your post, hes a smart ninja he's not going to fight them all at once, and i never said that he would. yeah i think he is since itachi was dying an illness the time of the manga/anime. most of what is said on here supporting itachi's genjutsu is based on his fight with naruto as a child! unlike naruto the 4th lived when Uchiha were still around the leaf, im guessing he knew how they fought better than naruto did. Isn't Saske called the second coming of madara? he has all the same powers as itachi doesnt he.

Yes Characters have simialrity but aren't always the same explain People see obito,hashirama,minato,jiaiya etc as naruto but are they all exactly or equal in the same platform? Naruto had kcm,bm.sm so does minato but was minato able to take his rasengan up to the next level? Sasuke will never surpass madara at this point lmao

 

[Enki420]

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Yes Characters have simialrity but aren't always the same explain People see obito,hashirama,minato,jiaiya etc as naruto but are they all exactly or equal in the same platform? Naruto had kcm,bm.sm so does minato but was minato able to take his rasengan up to the next level? Sasuke will never surpass madara at this point lmao

Thats assuming he even tried to make it bigger, which isn't stated in the manga or anime, so i'm just gonna assume he used a regular rasengan and didnt try to make it bigger since his normal one is stronger

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than naruto's regualr one

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[Enki420]

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oooh yeah i totally forgot that since Minato has control over the nine tails(as evident by his nine tails mode) genjutsu doesnt work on him like everyone else.

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[Gaara Of The Death]

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oooh yeah i totally forgot that since Minato has control over the nine tails(as evident by his nine tails mode) genjutsu doesnt work on him like everyone else.

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As we've seen in the manga it takes a couple of seconds form the Bijuu to break the Jin out of gen, in this case that's useless because Tskuomi works in seconds.​

 

[EKSITE]

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Thats assuming he even tried to make it bigger, which isn't stated in the manga or anime, so i'm just gonna assume he used a regular rasengan and didnt try to make it bigger since his normal one is stronger

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than naruto's regualr one

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Taking it to the next level meaning adding his element towards it

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[Disquiet]

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If that bird is present, does that change anything of Naruto being under a genjutsu interpretation?

It may counter the argument that he was put into a genjutsu when he took a glimpse of Itachi's eyes.

 

[Minator93]

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So entire Itachi wank-fest based on Dusk Crow Genjutsu which Itachi can cast through anything since we don't have any intel?

Well in that case Minato can wrap anything to anywhere with S/T barrier. For a large object Such as Juubidama he needs a Kunai to the place of transpoartation but sor comparitively smaller one he does it without Kunai as seen in the fight against Kurama where Minato transported the bijju-dama to a location that didn't have a marker!

In that case Minato sits at his office wraps a Kunai behind Itachi and kills him in an instant.

 

[Enki420]

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Taking it to the next level meaning adding his element towards it

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ahahahahah thats a whole different technique(that only naruto can even do) that naruto had to invent since rasengan didnt fit into his fighting style the way it did minato's, who didnt need to level it up since his rasengan is stronger than naruto's and since he can teleport to hit people in the blink of an eye. that doesnt make him weak or incapable of making it bigger, he just hasnt needed to.

 

[Enki420]

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As we've seen in the manga it takes a couple of seconds form the Bijuu to break the Jin out of gen, in this case that's useless because Tskuomi works in seconds.​

but he could teleport away when he sees him building up the need massive ammount of chakra needed for it. then he could teleport back and kill him as he rebuilds his chakra for another try.

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

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but he could teleport away when he sees him building up the need massive ammount of chakra needed for it. then he could teleport back and kill him as he rebuilds his chakra for another try.

When has tuskomi ever required a big amount of chakra build up if that was the case Kakashi should of been able to see it coming in part 1. And you assuming Minato can kill of Itachi before he can build up chakra which is ridiculous. ​

 

[UchiGod Itachi]

So entire Itachi wank-fest based on Dusk Crow Genjutsu which Itachi can cast through anything since we don't have any intel?

Well in that case Minato can wrap anything to anywhere with S/T barrier. For a large object Such as Juubidama he needs a Kunai to the place of transpoartation but sor comparitively smaller one he does it without Kunai as seen in the fight against Kurama where Minato transported the bijju-dama to a location that didn't have a marker!

In that case Minato sits at his office wraps a Kunai behind Itachi and kills him in an instant.

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