The Itachi vs Minato Thread

[Bronze]

Re: Thee Itachi vs Minato Thread

Already explained why he would be blitzed. Itachi couldnt outspeed Sasuke when Minato left him in the dust. Minato even outsped the fastest shinobi in a war era between Senju and Uchihas. His reflexive speed is above that of Raikage who blitzed Sasuke's eyes presented as better than his brothers. Not even mentioning hiraishin here. Either with his shunshin or hiraishin, he has all the ways to blitz Itachi, but i won't continue the discussion further since our opinions would never change

Killer Bee reacted to FTG. Killer Bee couldn't react or keep up with Itachi. And where was it shown Itachi didn't outspeed Sasuke?

 

[DemonicAvenger]

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Already explained why he would be blitzed. Itachi couldnt outspeed Sasuke when Minato left him in the dust. Minato even outsped the fastest shinobi in a war era between Senju and Uchihas. His reflexive speed is above that of Raikage who blitzed Sasuke's eyes presented as better than his brothers. Not even mentioning hiraishin here. Either with his shunshin or hiraishin, he has all the ways to blitz Itachi, but i won't continue the discussion further since our opinions would never change

That off panel race to the war is hardly something you can base battle speed on. Especially when battle feats say otherwise.​

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I don't consider it a defeat when the only ones i'm debating against here are Uchiha fanboys

So im an Uchiha fanboy now?​

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[RikudouMadara]

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I must say I'm impressed with what the Itachi fans are saying. Even so....when I myself come to a conclusion of everything I've seen from Minato and Itachi in this Manga.... I feel Itachi wins still.... I'd say with Itachis overwhelming arsenal, skill, and focus he wins low difficulty still. Just my opinion....no need to get emotional over it. But then I feel everyone is slightly biased so that who they like more comes out on top. I just find Itachi as an overall to be leagues above Minato....even before I've not ever thought them to be equal.

I usually don't say anything because I'm still under the impression that only Kishi can give a be all end all answer. So when ppl say Itachi will win and Minato will win...as though they are Kishi I just watch. If Itachi can be able to keep up with SM Kabuto....I feel why would SM Minato be THAT much of a difference? To each their own......but if my opinion is too much for some to handle.... then my apologies, that is a personal problem though. Because I believe Itachi defeats Minato at the same difficulty that he defeated Orochimaru. Just how I feel....

I have a feeling once the Manga is over and complete Kishi will give us answers to these unknown VS fights. I'm willing to bet cold hard cash that if he does give us an answer to this fight.....he will choose Itachi. I'll bet cash upon it.

 

[Minator93]

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I think it's about time I one shot this vindictive, obdurate, Aberrant, audacious thread

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[Enki420]

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First and foremost, Sensing will not help Minato against Itachi, at all. It didn't help Cee from being caught in a Genjutsu [

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] Also notice what Cee says in the second link: "He was just using his buddy's attack as a distraction..." This is actually very important and a clever way of capturing Minato in a Genjutsu. Itachi is an expert at fighting with Bunshin feints. If Minato is in active combat with a Kage Bunshin, he won't notice Amaterasu. Its important to note that A saw Sasuke's eye bleed and predicted an attack was incoming. If Minato is preoccupied for even a second, he'll be open to an attack, and as Strict has pointed out, Minato can't actively sense and fight at the same time, as the Kyuubi implied.

Also, Minato won't start the fight activating Sage Mode. He didn't against Obito, and he thought Obito was Madara.

And whats to stop the 4th from creating his own shadow clones to counter with? Also he owned Obito without needing SM, that doesnt mean he cant use it against itachi.

 

[WolfHaley]

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And what happens when Itachi decides to toss out a clone too? Now he sets his clone after 1 minato while he goes after another. Both get trapped. The clone is unaffected while the real one isn't.

Minato doesn't have head hunter jutsu, or a diversion to trick itachi into believing the clone is actually him.

A clone that's going to further divide his already poor chakra? It's just going to mess up his game, not to mention his crow Bushin isn't strong enough to stand on it's own. Minato ca simply make more.

He doesn't need to fool him, how would Itachi know which is which?

 

[Bogard]

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Killer Bee reacted to FTG. Killer Bee couldn't react or keep up with Itachi. And where was it shown Itachi didn't outspeed Sasuke?

Minato was fighting A and Bee 2 on 1. He blitzed both but he had no killing intent, demonstrated by the fact he only held his kunai above him instead of directly stabing him during his teleportation like he did against Obito for example. Itachi never blitzed Bee however, more like the contrary

 

[Enki420]

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Why do people think the flashy power ups decide who wins a one on one confrontation?
lol, the strongest characters can be taken down. Ever heard of a bad match up? Without full intel on itachi, this is a bad match-up for Minato.

To expect him to activate SM quickly is comical. Didn't do it when he suspected he was fighting madara, he wouldn't do it now.
Really SM didn't do squat to this match up. I never imagined this fight going over a couple of minutes; the victor being decided very quickly. IC Minato and itachi end their fights ASAP... Because of this, the factors of Itachi's stamina never crossed my mind. Now, with Minato's power-up, I don't see SM being a deciding factor. Seeing this fight end relatively fast, I just don't see Minato using it before it's too late

He was the Hokage! why would he not have intel on uchiha fighting techniques?

 

[P3ĮÑ]

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LMAO, WHERE DID YOU GET THIS! MUCH WOW, LOLTACHI.

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[Owarij]

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Ikr, reason why i decided to rest my case. No limit fallacy right here. Judging by their arguments, Itachi solos everyone, Hashirama, Nagato included if even a sensor and Sage mode user can't

So you finally realized exactly why genjutsu, at least this type of it is broken. It has no place in naruto. But, if Kishi wanted to, he could let Itachi win the majority of matches just like he did against deidara and Orochimaru. You can call it a no limit fallacy. But we have all the information we need to come to the conlcusion that Minato has nothing to combat it , Not with manga knowledge.

 

[Ace of the fire fist]

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Aiding in dispensing those same clones, Or parrying those same kunai's used for parrying. Itachi bends kunai around trees, he can parry a parry quite casually while his original kunai go on course.

Minato is my favourite character. What i explicitly said was "people never factor in itachi also using shadow clones" which, by this response, I'm spot on about.

So, you jump to conclussions now? Bogard you've lost. Just accept defeat like a man.


And what happens when Itachi decides to toss out a clone too? Now he sets his clone after 1 minato while he goes after another. Both get trapped. The clone is unaffected while the real one isn't.

Minato doesn't have head hunter jutsu, or a diversion to trick itachi into believing the clone is actually him.

All the clones would have to do is adopt a circle formation back to back, seen when team 7 were protecting Tazuna. That would nullify any and all blindside Kunai attacks. Since this has turned into clone vs clone, lets not pretend like Minato cannot make more clones than Itachi. Now that he's a SM user, and a prerequisite to that is having large chakra reserves, there's that. Minato also doesn't have a stamina issue, unlike his counterpart. Minato's clones will be able to deflect simple Kunai; lets not stoop so low as to debate such a ridiculous notion.

 

[AGoodBoy]

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That off panel race to the war is hardly something you can base battle speed on. Especially when battle feats say otherwise.​

So im an Uchiha fanboy now?​

Lmfao you're the biggest naruto fan I know on this base. The mere fact he resorts to calling even you an uchiha fan speaks volumes Lol

 

[Minator93]

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LMAO, WHERE DID YOU GET THIS! MUCH WOW, LOLTACHI.

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Meme from Bogard and Emoticon Sir Derp Lol

 

[Bogard]

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So you finally realized exactly why genjutsu, at least this type of it is broken. It has no place in naruto. But, if Kishi wanted to, he could let Itachi win the majority of matches just like he did against deidara and Orochimaru. You can call it a no limit fallacy. But we have all the information we need to come to the conlcusion that Minato has nothing to combat it , Not with manga knowledge.

Which type of genjutsu? If you're talking about Itachi's reality genjutsu, i already gave my argument as to why it won't work imo

 

[DemonicAvenger]

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Lmfao you're the biggest naruto fan I know on this base. The mere fact he resorts to calling even you an uchiha fan speaks volumes Lol

Well I do like the Uchiha (There's quite a few in my top ten), though I don't really wank them all that much. Though the fact I was called a fanboy is puzzling.

1. Naruto
2. Madara
3-8 (Tie). Killer Bee, Gaara, Minato, Itachi, Sasuke, Kakashi
9. Obito (Post Madara TNJ - Pre Naruto TNJ)
10. Deidara​

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[Enki420]

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I must say I'm impressed with what the Itachi fans are saying. Even so....when I myself come to a conclusion of everything I've seen from Minato and Itachi in this Manga.... I feel Itachi wins still.... I'd say with Itachis overwhelming arsenal, skill, and focus he wins low difficulty still. Just my opinion....no need to get emotional over it. But then I feel everyone is slightly biased so that who they like more comes out on top. I just find Itachi as an overall to be leagues above Minato....even before I've not ever thought them to be equal.

I usually don't say anything because I'm still under the impression that only Kishi can give a be all end all answer. So when ppl say Itachi will win and Minato will win...as though they are Kishi I just watch. If Itachi can be able to keep up with SM Kabuto....I feel why would SM Minato be THAT much of a difference? To each their own......but if my opinion is too much for some to handle.... then my apologies, that is a personal problem though. Because I believe Itachi defeats Minato at the same difficulty that he defeated Orochimaru. Just how I feel....

I have a feeling once the Manga is over and complete Kishi will give us answers to these unknown VS fights. I'm willing to bet cold hard cash that if he does give us an answer to this fight.....he will choose Itachi. I'll bet cash upon it.

If he is so bad ass why did he need obitos help taking down the uchiha? why didnt he kill madera to protect his brother instead of implanting a ***** trap in saskes eye? Why didnt he kill danzo? why did need to join akatski to protect the leaf instead of just killing them? Sauske is stronger than him and he couldnt even kill the raikage or a single one of his 2 bodyguards.

 

[Bronze]

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Minato was fighting A and Bee 2 on 1. He blitzed both but he had no killing intent, demonstrated by the fact he only held his kunai above him instead of directly stabing him during his teleportation like he did against Obito for example. Itachi never blitzed Bee however, more like the contrary

Him not having intent doesn't change the fact Bee reacted to him twice. Once [

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[AGoodBoy]

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All the clones would have to do is adopt a circle formation back to back, seen when team 7 were protecting Tazuna. That would nullify any and all blindside Kunai attacks. Since this has turned into clone vs clone, lets not pretend like Minato cannot make more clones than Itachi. Now that he's a SM user, and a prerequisite to that is having large chakra reserves, there's that. Minato also doesn't have a stamina issue, unlike his counterpart. Minato's clones will be able to deflect simple Kunai; lets not stoop so low as to debate such a ridiculous notion.

dafuq...? So minato will just stand back to back with his clones the entire fight...? They won't move? Because an amaterasu lights them up. The one that sees it ports, but the other 2 are now blind sided and dead; the teleported minato gets a kunai tossed at him with no back up.

It would have been easier for you to just say the clone teleports minato to him...

 

[Ace of the fire fist]

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Even better.

 

[Bogard]

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Him not having intent doesn't change the fact Bee reacted to him twice. Once [

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No, not having intent to kill means not giving your all. He even left Bee despite knowing he was already marked because he wasn't in the mood. Bee was covering A's back, so he most likely saw the kunai Minato throwed above A during the first attack and prepared his long range tentacle to save his brother. As for your Itachi-Bee example, he just got surprised. I don't see a blitz. There have been many situation in this manga where an opponent surprised still managed to react including Itachi himself during his battle against Sasuke. Bee was distracted talking to Naruto not even one page before this and unlike Naruto and Nagato, he isn't a sensor to notice Itachi's movements behind the opening grand fire jutsu