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haha you guys telling me 5 shinobi who can barely cover any large area of poison can output more poison and disease than the combined effort of the world military which is including but not limited to millions of biological viral weapons?

the World has 1000 ordinances for every 1 shinobi on the planet
Where did I mention poison or disease?

You're neglecting the fact that bio-weapons are HIGHLY contagious, nondiscriminatory attacks. That means, any and everybody is a victim of it. If a shinobi coughs on a human? Breaths on him? He's now infected and the human race slowly dies from their own attack. Furthermore, People like minato, tobirama and Obito, who can teleport to arbitrary locations, can effortlessly, with the help of SM users, teleport to each General and spread the infection to them. From there the human race is now being infected by their disease from the top-down chain of command(General giving orders to his men), and down-up(units on the field fighting on the front line who then infect their squad leader, who then slowly infect the next up in command).

Lastly, you're completely and utterly neglecting time. That is, bio-weapons are meant as slow killing, stealth attacks. They're not meant for quick death. Shit like ebola, small pox, anthrax, etc. take hours, days, if not months to kill someone and usually can be cured. The human race wouldn't survive near that long. 40k+ shinobi died in one night, against the juubi, and shinobi are far far far faster than humans.


SIDE NOTE: You're also neglecting to factor in these bio-attacks actually delivering successfully. Sage users -- kabuto, naruto, hashirama, jiraiya -- can sense every single thing around them (evidenced by the fact that madara could sense sasuke's steel sword). The minute the human race launches the 'delivery system' for these attacks, they'll be intercepted by a jinton, omnyoudon, shinra tensei, etc and completely reduced to absolutely useless.

tl;dr; Bio attacks and Poison affects humans too. You just helped kill the human race. Good job.
 

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That, Hiroshima, or the outline of Naruto after he instantly reduced to carbon.
Im well aware of nuke possibilities, even of many other speculated, rumored futuristic weapons.

NV simply has better technology so to speak, in the end they would win despite lower numbers.
Our "civilization" is far too fragile by itself we cant fight those who can create earth, water, electricity, fire and wind.
Close themselves with barriers or even send our nukes back with S/T barrier.
Raise zombies, revive the dead, instantly teleport to any location, drop meteors or even moons or geez have a dimension for themselves.

They can survive our war, we cant.
 
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The world military wins because we'd get Kishimoto to nerf every Naruto character. He created them, therefore he can stop them.

Or he becomes evil and takes over the world with Itachi as leader of a secret police.

But it'd end with no survivors because Russia and 'Murica will nuke the entire planet because, f@#$! ninjas thats why. If we're gonna lose, well make sure we're taking every single lifeform with us

We'll go suicidal and desperate

Every bowl of ramen is a bomb (Naruto dead)

Every Perverted book is a bomb (Kakashi dead)

Every little boy is a bomb (Orochimaru dead)

Every little girl is a bomb/ Rock slide (Obito dead)

Every yaoi book with "HashiramaXMadara" is a bomb (Madara dead)

AIDS (Itachi dead)

 
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This ^^^. This right here is a very overlooked factor. Human weapons during war are 100% guaranteed to be deadly to humans, but they're not 100% guaranteed death to NV shinobi. Humans will be killing more humans than shinobi.
You have no way of confirming that humans would be killing more humans than shinobi. You're also saying it as if ninjas are a different species entirely. The people in the Narutoverse are mortal humans with superhuman abilities and limits. They utilize a inner energy which allows them to perform elemental, physical spiritual, and, mental attacks.

Besides that, you're pitting two different planes of existences against one another, one having immortal beings and monsters capable of mass destruction.

In order to make it remotely fair you would have to assume that chakra exists on earth and restrict the following:

Edo Tensei
Tailed Beasts
Jinchuriki's
Rinnegan's Outer Path, Rinnegan summons, and the ability to make puppets from the dead.
Demonic Statue of the Outer Path (so no zetsu army)
Gedo statue

Contract summons with animals can stay. Then you would have to figure out which timeline you're pitting earth against. Just saying the "Narutoverse" can mean time a Timeline paradox. We can't have a prime hiruzen and a current Naruto fighting on the same battlefield. Not only is it unfair, it isn't possible, in either worlds.

The best would be to use the Allied Shinobi forces/Akatsuki vs The World Military. (So the dead stays dead, that includes those revived via Edo Aka Madara)

In which case I believe that the World Military would win over the Narutoverse.

The Allied Shinobi forces consists of the entire Narutoverse's military. It's a size that's roughly 80,000 shinobi strong not including Kages, akastuki.

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The World military has over 8 million Soliders


When compared to earth now, the Narutoverse lacks:

Intelligence
Technology
Guns
Weapons Of Mass Destruction (that can instantly make entire continents inhabitable)
Satellites
Navy
Air Forces
Homefield advantage(Given they are the ones invading)
Vehicles
Armor/Defenses that can withstand armor piercing ammunition, large scale explosions.

The real world military would destroy them, if not, outlast them.

Without restrictions of powers and timelines, they would win 7/10. Only due to Obito's undetectable zetsu army, all instances of Madara after he was Edo, Juubito, BSM Naruto, and Jinchuriki.
 
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The world military wins because we'd get Kishimoto to nerf every Naruto character. He created them, therefore he can stop them.

Or he becomes evil and takes over the world with Itachi as leader of a secret police.

But it'd end with no survivors because Russia and 'Murica will nuke the entire planet because, f@#$! ninjas thats why. If we're gonna lose, well make sure we're taking every single lifeform with us

We'll go suicidal and desperate

Every bowl of ramen is a bomb (Naruto dead)

Every Perverted book is a bomb (Kakashi dead)

Every little boy is a bomb (Orochimaru dead)

Every little girl is a bomb/ Rock slide (Obito dead)

Every yaoi book with "HashiramaXMadara" is a bomb (Madara dead)

AIDS (Itachi dead)

Y u trollin?
 

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You have no way of confirming that humans would be killing more humans than shinobi. You're also saying it as if ninjas are a different species entirely. The people in the Narutoverse are mortal humans with superhuman abilities and limits. They utilize a inner energy which allows them to perform elemental, physical spiritual, and, mental attacks.

Besides that, you're pitting two different planes of existences against one another, one having immortal beings and monsters capable of mass destruction.

In order to make it remotely fair you would have to assume that chakra exists on earth and restrict the following:

Edo Tensei
Tailed Beasts
Jinchuriki's
Rinnegan's Outer Path, Rinnegan summons, and the ability to make puppets from the dead.
Demonic Statue of the Outer Path (so no zetsu army)
Gedo statue

Contract summons with animals can stay. Then you would have to figure out which timeline you're pitting earth against. Just saying the "Narutoverse" can mean time a Timeline paradox. We can't have a prime hiruzen and a current Naruto fighting on the same battlefield. Not only is it unfair, it isn't possible, in either worlds.

The best would be to use the Allied Shinobi forces/Akatsuki vs The World Military. (So the dead stays dead, that includes those revived via Edo Aka Madara)

In which case I believe that the World Military would win over the Narutoverse.

The Allied Shinobi forces consists of the entire Narutoverse's military. It's a size that's roughly 80,000 shinobi strong not including Kages, akastuki.

You must be registered for see images


The World military has over 8 million Soliders


When compared to earth now, the Narutoverse lacks:

Intelligence
Technology
Guns
Weapons Of Mass Destruction (that can instantly make entire continents inhabitable)
Satellites
Navy
Air Forces
Homefield advantage(Given they are the ones invading)
Vehicles
Armor/Defenses that can withstand armor piercing ammunition, large scale explosions.

The real world military would destroy them, if not, outlast them.

Without restrictions of powers and timelines, they would win 7/10. Only due to Obito's undetectable zetsu army, all instances of Madara after he was Edo, Juubito, BSM Naruto, and Jinchuriki.
Stop trolling, Madara's meteors solo.
 

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@Simbaprides..

Mate you are aware, that people in Naruto can change enviorment to their own liking..

Normal chunin level ninja > Normal troops...

Hell a normal anbu can take down a battalion.. know why? Because of that speed can't be reacted to.. they sure do have guns tho.. but no point in having something that isn't gonna be allowed to be used..

Also, the Shinobi alliance doesn't = Naruto-verse military.. You still have shinobi of the small countries left. You then have normal military forces of Naruto-verse.. You also have the ninja back in the villages.. Come on now man..

And on top of that.


Not to mention them elemental combos.. Mountains being created on the field.. Battlions being taken out by jounin level ninja.. lord its a murder.
 

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Re-read my post, Edo is restricted therefore Madara isn't alive or in Edo form. Plus, the maximum he ever used was two. Even if he could spam them he would kill himself[COLOR]


He said NV, this means all ninja from NV including the dead. And Madara is alive right now...

2 is enough, he also has Nagato's help.

To your last point, going by that logic then the military kills themselves as well. While in NV, thawy have barriers and Kakashi to kamui himself to another dimension.
 

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@Simbaprides..

Mate you are aware, that people in Naruto can change enviorment to their own liking..

Normal chunin level ninja > Normal troops...

Hell a normal anbu can take down a battalion.. know why? Because of that speed can't be reacted to.. they sure do have guns tho.. but no point in having something that isn't gonna be allowed to be used..

Also, the Shinobi alliance doesn't = Naruto-verse military.. You still have shinobi of the small countries left. You then have normal military forces of Naruto-verse.. You also have the ninja back in the villages.. Come on now man..

And on top of that.


Not to mention them elemental combos.. Mountains being created on the field.. Battlions being taken out by jounin level ninja.. lord its a murder.
Even if you used all the ninjas in the small countries, ninja in the villages, and normal military forces it still doesn't amount to the numbers the real world has.

War isn't going to be straight up like in the past, so mountains being created on the field isn't going to change anything. Not only that, it would take a large amount of ninja's to create a mountain, they would be sitting ducks for air strikes, some of the fastest jets go 2,200 mph, that's fast enough to fodderize ground units.

Chuunin level ninjas that aren't main characters have no reaction speed feats like that. Those are assumptions and speculations the same with Anbu.


So in your opinion, whats the kill death ratio of shinobi to soliders?


He said NV, this means all ninja from NV including the dead. And Madara is alive right now...

2 is enough, he also has Nagato's help.

To your last point, going by that logic then the military kills themselves as well. While in NV, thawy have barriers and Kakashi to kamui himself to another dimension.
The military wouldn't bomb themselves. Unlike Madara's Meteor justu, the military doesn't have to be within it's kill range.

If it's the entire NV with no restrictions then of course they win, Naruto is a fantasy world that defies physics and logic. All the characters never change clothes and can warp their faces for comedic effect. Not only that, depending on the mood they can even develop the toonforce.

Maybe Kishi just solos the NV by making them all weak, no need for the world's military
 
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Even if you used all the ninjas in the small countries, ninja in the villages, and normal military forces it still doesn't amount to the numbers the real world has.

War isn't going to be straight up like in the past, so mountains being created on the field isn't going to change anything. Not only that, it would take a large amount of ninja's to create a mountain, they would be sitting ducks for air strikes, some of the fastest jets go 2,200 mph, that's fast enough to fodderize ground units.

Chuunin level ninjas that aren't main characters have no reaction speed feats like that. Those are assumptions and speculations the same with Anbu.


So in your opinion, whats the kill death ratio of shinobi to soliders?



The military wouldn't bomb themselves. Unlike Madara's Meteor justu, the military doesn't have to be within it's kill range.
Their nukes kill them. Also Juubito simply puts a barrier to protect NV from the meteors.

There are no restrictions, Kishi ain't in the military.
 
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