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Meaning no evil Itachi to fuel his ambitions.


I rate him low chuunin
 

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Mid to high jounin, cause he always strived to be the best in what he did, and had his father in high regards. Evil itachi or not Sasuke was bound to be more than an ordinary ninja.
 

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we dont know how hed train then. he still was one of the best as a yungin
 

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Mid to high jounin, cause he always strived to be the best in what he did, and had his father in high regards. Evil itachi or not Sasuke was bound to be more than an ordinary ninja.
But unless Itachi dies or goes blind, Sasuke doesn't get his eyes. So he has no Sharingan unless something bad happens
 

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He wouldn't have awakened MS, that's for sure
So about Jounin level
 

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He wouldn't be as powerful. But he would still be more skilled than the average jounin. I mean, if he wasn't looking for power then he wouldn't have cooperated with Orochimaru, so there will be a big leap in his skill.

Idk, its hard to say, so many things could happen differently just because of that.
My final answer is going to have to be Jounin.
 

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He'd be strong as early shippudden sasuke, minus cm and the snake summons,kirin, and (maybe)chidori variants. He'd still be skilled in kenjutsu but sasuke wouldn't have the sword he has right now.he would maybe use tanto...
So Jonin
 
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Same as now.
Genius people don't need MS/EMS to be kage level.

He will be just another kage level genius like orochimaru,tobirama,minato,hiruzen.

He already created one shotting techs before getting MS, like kirin.
He would have just trained more and got even more faster. Maybe would have become hokage also, as this guy had the potential to change other people's opinion[itachi said this], he was best in his class just like minato.

Not to mention badass.
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I say he would have got a raiton armour like raikage have, bijju sized katon [like madara],black lightning etc
 
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For the people who despised Itachi's actions you have to admit this was the only way that Sasuke would get as powerful as he is now.
 

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Mid to high jounin, cause he always strived to be the best in what he did, and had his father in high regards. Evil itachi or not Sasuke was bound to be more than an ordinary ninja.


Just having plain sharingan makes him more than an ordinary shinobi. He wouldn't be close to what he has been in the latest chapters without the Uchiha Massacre.
 

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Sasuke would still be powerful imo.

I don't know if he would have curse mark or not, but Kakashi would still train him probably.
 

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Same as now.
Genius people don't need MS/EMS to be kage level.

He will be just another kage level genius like orochimaru,tobirama,minato,hiruzen.

He already created one shotting techs before getting MS, like kirin.
He would have just trained more and got even more faster. Maybe would have become hokage also, as this guy had the potential to change other people's opinion[itachi said this], he was best in his class just like minato.

Not to mention badass.
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I say he would have got a raiton armour like raikage have, bijju sized katon [like madara],black lightning etc

I have to disagree. I'd say Jounin level because he would have died to Mizukage, Raikage, and Tsuchikage if he didn't awaken MS/EMS
 

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Sasuke before MS was a damn genius on the battlefield alone. He was analyzing his opponents in short time using his many variations of techniques to deduce their fighting style. He's a prodigy, he would have grown in many other aspects had it not been for MS and after that, he makes many variations with a new technique: Enton within a week's time! He's a genius at developing jutsu, it's the reason Orochimaru says he pales in comparison. I'd put Sasuke Low Kage at minimum but with Itachi being such a prodigy himself and under his influence with no Uchiha massacre, who knows how dangerous Sasuke would be...
 

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He would be jounin level along side Neji but better
-He would be trained by Itachi and Kakashi who both are great sharingan users. And maybe Itachi would let Sasuke kill him at some point so Sasuke would get MS
 

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Clearly you guys do not realize what you are talking about when you say something like "low Chunin".


We know the Katon: Gōkakyū represents an Uchiha's passage to adulthood. [ ] due to wanting to be respected at Itachi's level. Mind you the .

Sasuke would constantly be trying to surpass Itachi, who is easily above most of the Gokage without the Mangekyou, and as a result he would be at least Mid-Kage level.

- Superior Shunsin [Masashi Kishimoto calls it unmatchable in the Databook]
- Strongest Sharingan [stronger than Itachi]
- Genius very much above a Yondaime Hokage candidate[ ]
- Powerful chakra due to Uchiha heritage
- Master of Raiton and Katon jutsu
- And add Itachi's teachings to all this
 

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Let's See

-No Mangeykyo Sharingan
-No Susano
-No Amateratsu
-No Mangeykyo Sharingan Genjutsu.

-No Giant Snake Summon
-Lack of any form of Snake techniques
-Lack of Curse Mark
-Lack of Chidori Variants.

Basically..kinda fodder in my opinion.
 

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Let's See

-No Mangeykyo Sharingan
-No Susano
-No Amateratsu
-No Mangeykyo Sharingan Genjutsu.

-No Giant Snake Summon
-Lack of any form of Snake techniques
-Lack of Curse Mark
-Lack of Chidori Variants.

Basically..kinda fodder in my opinion.
But he has friendship...
 

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He would still be a very capable shinobi but he wouldn't have a good amount of his tech he normally uses.
 
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