Arguing with people like me? I'm not GoT. I've seen his posts. Multiverse buster gogeta ssj4 and other nonsense he used to write
In fact, i was debating the other day with TAC and someone else on how goku loses to superman, disproving statements such as goku is megaverse(yeah, megaverse) buster and other BS.
However, denying that goku is FTL is just too much for me, so is denying that he achieved galaxy buster lvl with BoG.
I didn't create BS. I used logic and explanatios to prove my points, based on feats on the manga. Even when they werent mine, they were still valid.
You just kept denying everything without a single counter, so the discussion got pointless.
Actually, the sub mistranslated it. It wasn't galaxy, it was solar system. Of course the DBZ wankers on certain forums I won't name decided to make those images of the bad sub translation and use it saying that Bills "can destroy a galaxy" and call it fact.
Actually, the sub mistranslated it. It wasn't galaxy, it was solar system. Of course the DBZ wankers on certain forums I won't name decided to make those images of the bad sub translation and use it saying that Bills "can destroy a galaxy" and call it fact.
God it took me awhile to find the word they used.....
Whis said "Taiyōkei", and according to Google translate, that means solar system.
And just because a character says they can do that, doesn't mean it is true.
Even if we said he could, I always wonder How? How can the Kamehame wave Cell had be capable of wiping out an entire Galaxy in one move. That means destroy everything within our solar system.
Let me put that in perspective for you before you say he can because he said he could.
This is the Earth
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Now make note how big Cell is on that planet and his big ol blast that is going to destroy the solar system.
Lets look at what he has to blow up.
This is the other planets compared to Earth.
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He has to blow up all of those planets as well as Earth.
He also has to blow up this.
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Now not only does he have to blow up all of those things, he has to do it with one attack and somehow hit them all with his Linear kamehame wave. Pretty tricky right?
But we aren't done. There is the asteroid belt to blow up as well.
Not to mention all the space between those planets.
Lets put that in perspective.
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This attack
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All of that above.
Now here is the kicker. TWO of those attacks collided with each other on Earth(Cell and Gohan)
I mean the damage afterward must have been massive right?
God it took me awhile to find the word they used.....
Whis said "Taiyōkei", and according to Google translate, that means solar system.
And just because a character says they can do that, doesn't mean it is true.
Even if we said he could, I always wonder How? How can the Kamehame wave Cell had be capable of wiping out an entire Galaxy in one move. That means destroy everything within our solar system.
Let me put that in perspective for you before you say he can because he said he could.
This is the Earth
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Now make note how big Cell is on that planet and his big ol blast that is going to destroy the solar system.
Lets look at what he has to blow up.
This is the other planets compared to Earth.
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He has to blow up all of those planets as well as Earth.
He also has to blow up this.
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Now not only does he have to blow up all of those things, he has to do it with one attack and somehow hit them all with his Linear kamehame wave. Pretty tricky right?
But we aren't done. There is the asteroid belt to blow up as well.
Not to mention all the space between those planets.
Lets put that in perspective.
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This attack
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All of that above.
Now here is the kicker. TWO of those attacks collided with each other on Earth(Cell and Gohan)
I mean the damage afterward must have been massive right?
By waht margin will depend on the calculation used. If we consider the power levels(until the point in which they were stated), and then apply the saiyan multipliers, we'll see he is much more faster tahn light, 10, maybe 100 times. If we don't, he would still be 2 times FTL.
Power levels are know to be inconstant, yet yajirobe has a power level of over 900 and yet he's not that strong, same for popo who's over Raditz. They aren't legibly vial, and don't outright prove speed feats or any other feats for that matter. So they can't be used in calc's, as that wouldn't make it a fair comparison against crossovers, where they aren't even valid.
And about piccolo, he didn't state it. But he sent a ki blast to the moon, and the moon exploded in the same panel, so it took about 1-2 seconds for the blast to get there, and it takes light 1.28 seconds.
How do we judge the time frame? That's the problem right there, there no legible way to do that, unless you have the right time frame using free fall variants then it can be calc'd, another inconsistent feat, yet superior characters ki blasts took some time to reach a certain part of earth, since there's no way to do that in that scan, the time frame would be speculation.
Goku doesn't need his hands to use Ki blasts. He once fired Kamehameha using his feet. That applies to other DBZ characters as well. For example, Vegeta killed Nappa without moving any part of his body using a Ki blast.
Eitherway, he doesn't need two feet to solo. One foot is more than enough.
OP said One Piece looks like shit -.- now it's personal.
Anyways, everyone gets raped bar logias and probably Luffy since he's made of rubber and Goku doesn't have Haki (then again Lucci was able to lay the smack down on Luffy without Haki). But as a wise man in this thread already stated...
I should've been more descriptive, I never attended for him to use ki blasts, wrong use of wording I suppose, and yes you're right I also didn't knew he could fire ki blasts from his foot. I'm not that stupid to allow him to use ki blasts as that would make him hella overpowered.
Goku has physic abilites, but that doesn't count as haki, those are abilites used from the users mind, and haki is a complete different matter, despite many forms of haki are there, the neccessary one to hit and touch a logia in using armamanet haki combined within the physical attack a shield to harm them, which goku doesn't know how to do. As stated, everyone has haki, but it has to be controlled in order to use it essentially. And goku hasn't even shown effecting wills. Which is assumption.
I should've been more descriptive, I never attended for him to use ki blasts, wrong use of wording I suppose, and yes you're right I also didn't knew he could fire ki blasts from his foot. I'm not that stupid to allow him to use ki blasts as that would make him hella overpowered.
Goku has physic abilites, but that doesn't count as haki, those are abilites used from the users mind, and haki is a complete different matter, despite many forms of haki are there, the neccessary one to hit and touch a logia in using armamanet haki combined within the physical attack a shield to harm them, which goku doesn't know how to do. As stated, everyone has haki, but it has to be controlled in order to use it essentially. And goku hasn't even shown effecting wills. Which is assumption.
If he can't use Ki blasts then I guess it's a stalemate.
But if he could, I think it's more than enough to beat Logias since Ki blasts are concentrated energy and can disintegrate whatever they hit to an atomic level. Buu's ability was very similar to Logias but the attack from the Genki dama disintegrated him and killed him.
OP said One Piece looks like shit -.- now it's personal.
Anyways, everyone gets raped bar logias and probably Luffy since he's made of rubber and Goku doesn't have Haki (then again Lucci was able to lay the smack down on Luffy without Haki). But as a wise man in this thread already stated...
Rob lucci's rokugen had a very similar impact to the impact dial, which critically harmed luffy when he was hit it with, two times I believe, and besides, luffy is a paramicia type. I'm sure goku's insane striking strenght will damage him. Otherwise it would be a no limit fallacy.
If he can't use Ki blasts then I guess it's a stalemate.
But if he can, I think it's more than enough to beat Logias since Ki blasts are concentrated energy. Buu's ability was very similar to Logias but the attack from the Genki dama disintegrated him and killed him.
I know, that's the whole reason I never allowed ki blast use, I'm well aware my friend lol. I just wanted a physical compitiation, but hey, even with his legs, it's a stalemate against like over 50+ top tiers, that's how strong goku is
Seriosuly looking though, even if he could hit Kizaru's real body, he loses to him.
Kizaru kicks him with light speed (no one in DBZ has done that), which technically busts his organs open. Goku won't 'blitz GG', due to his not-faster-than-light-speed, excluding the teleportation that can't be used really in combat. kizaru shoots him with beams that are light speed, which technically can't be evaded. Also, the dude is really sub-relastivic with same reflexes.
Goku never catches him, while Logia powers put the body on no strain.
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Perfect Cell said:
I have enough Chi to blow away the entire solar system(Kamehameha).
*idea
Goku digs a hole into the center of the earth by bashing his head on the ground
Finnaly when he reaches the centre of the earth he swirls arround the earth's core at light speed until the earth blows up
Perfect stalemate
