Goku with no hands vs the HST

fati · Jan 31, 2014

The7thHokage said:
Instant transmission > Kamui

By the time Obito thinks of using it, Goku is already behind him.

Obito can't beat in any way goku what I am trying to say is goku camt touch obito unless he will try to attack, but in this case logias have a better chance.
Also again Instant transmission has no need to be used because in an area of 1 mile goku can go almost instantly without it

P3ĮÑ · Jan 31, 2014

Wolfus said:
But did you see my explanation about goku's strength?
The energy output of the dbz chars is nothing more than their own energy. Which means that they could use the same energy to kick with equal "force" as his ki blasts(as to make a force, one must use some amount of energy W=F.D.cosa)
Isn't that enough to damage those logias?

That isn't legible, physical attacks are rendered meaningless against logia types, kizaru is a light man, the kick passes right through him, just like ussops projectiles and brooks sword went right through him, and luffy's punches, even if they get cut or ripped by any miracle like urouge did, he simply reforms himself in mere seconds like nothing ever happened.

Rainbow Dash · Jan 31, 2014

Stops at Hiruzen.

The7thHokage · Jan 31, 2014

P3ĮÑ said:
That isn't legible, physical attacks are rendered meaningless against logia types, kizaru is a light man, the kick passes right through him, just like ussops projectiles and brooks sword went right through him, and luffy's punches, even if they get cut or ripped by any miracle like urouge did, he simply reforms himself in mere seconds like nothing ever happened.

Goku might not be capable of damaging them, but what can they do anyways ?

Whatever damage they can do, he will come out almost untouched, he can dodge all their attacks, and wear them out to defeat ( lol )

P3ĮÑ · Jan 31, 2014

The7thHokage said:
Goku might not be capable of damaging them, but what can they do anyways ?

Whatever damage they can do, he will come out almost untouched, he can dodge all their attacks, and wear them out to defeat ( lol )

I know that, it's a stalemate lmao.

Wolfus · Jan 31, 2014

P3ĮÑ said:
That isn't legible, physical attacks are rendered meaningless against logia types, kizaru is a light man, the kick passes right through him, just like ussops projectiles and brooks sword went right through him, and luffy's punches, even if they get cut or ripped by any miracle like urouge did, he simply reforms himself in mere seconds like nothing ever happened.

So how can one beat them?

fati · Jan 31, 2014

The7thHokage said:
Goku might not be capable of damaging them, but what can they do anyways ?

Whatever damage they can do, he will come out almost untouched, he can dodge all their attacks, and wear them out to defeat ( lol )

I have not read or see much of Bleach wich has the strongest characters of the tree, but for what I have seen their attacks can damange goku if they can hit him

Wolfus · Jan 31, 2014

fati said:
Obito can't beat in any way goku what I am trying to say is goku camt touch obito unless he will try to attack, but in this case logias have a better chance.
Also again Instant transmission has no need to be used because in an area of 1 mile goku can go almost instantly without it

That's the thing. Goku can hit obito before obito could evne think of using kamui, because of hif FTL speed.

fati · Jan 31, 2014

The7thHokage said:
Goku might not be capable of damaging them, but what can they do anyways ?

Whatever damage they can do, he will come out almost untouched, he can dodge all their attacks, and wear them out to defeat ( lol )

I have not read or see much of Bleach wich has the strongest characters of the three, but for what I have seen their attacks can damange goku if they can hit him

P3ĮÑ · Jan 31, 2014

Wolfus said:
So how can one beat them?

Sea stone, throwing them in water, or armament haki (which goku doesn't have)

UchihaNagashi · Jan 31, 2014

P3IN, stop the Logia thing, with that not restricted, even Monet solos. Lol

Regardless, Goku isn't FTL and Kizaru is just the speed, meaning he blitzes Goku with a kick, Mihawk slashes him, Blackbeard absorbs him and throws him, Ulquiorra throws Lanza, Aizen activates KS to fool the shit out of the guy, Hirako even adds more shit by making everything reverse, Ichigo Mugetsu's, Hashirama buddha punches the shit out of him, Madara slashes him, Obito uses 5 Bijudamas to blow the shit out of him, Yamamoto burns him with 15 milliom degrees and cuts him to shreds, Enel adds more shit by spamming crazy voltage attacks, Crocodile buries him, Nagato uses Human Path to take away his soul, dead.

P3ĮÑ · Jan 31, 2014

UchihaNagashi said:
P3IN, stop the Logia thing, with that not restricted, even Monet solos. Lol

Regardless, Goku isn't FTL and Kizaru is just the speed, meaning he blitzes Goku with a kick, Mihawk slashes him, Blackbeard absorbs him and throws him, Ulquiorra throws Lanza, Aizen activates KS to fool the shit out of the guy, Hirako even adds more shit by making everything reverse, Ichigo Mugetsu's, Hashirama buddha punches the shit out of him, Madara slashes him, Obito uses 5 Bijudamas to blow the shit out of him, Yamamoto burns him with 15 milliom degrees and cuts him to shreds, Enel adds more shit by spamming crazy voltage attacks, Crocodile buries him, Nagato uses Human Path to take away his soul, dead.

Whitebeard tilted an island, country level whitebeard for the win. Lmao ...the whole HST was probably a bad idea.

fati · Jan 31, 2014

UchihaNagashi said:
P3IN, stop the Logia thing, with that not restricted, even Monet solos. Lol

Regardless, Goku isn't FTL and Kizaru is just the speed, meaning he blitzes Goku with a kick, Mihawk slashes him, Blackbeard absorbs him and throws him, Ulquiorra throws Lanza, Aizen activates KS to fool the shit out of the guy, Hirako even adds more shit by making everything reverse, Ichigo Mugetsu's, Hashirama buddha punches the shit out of him, Madara slashes him, Obito uses 5 Bijudamas to blow the shit out of him, Yamamoto burns him with 15 milliom degrees and cuts him to shreds, Enel adds more shit by spamming crazy voltage attacks, Crocodile buries him, Nagato uses Human Path to take away his soul, dead.

One can argue that he is too fast to hit them but imo he can escape some of the hits but not all of them if they are coordinated with each other. Also there is nothing faster than light

Wolfus · Jan 31, 2014

UchihaNagashi said:
P3IN, stop the Logia thing, with that not restricted, even Monet solos. Lol

Regardless, Goku isn't FTL and Kizaru is just the speed, meaning he blitzes Goku with a kick, Mihawk slashes him, Blackbeard absorbs him and throws him, Ulquiorra throws Lanza, Aizen activates KS to fool the shit out of the guy, Hirako even adds more shit by making everything reverse, Ichigo Mugetsu's, Hashirama buddha punches the shit out of him, Madara slashes him, Obito uses 5 Bijudamas to blow the shit out of him, Yamamoto burns him with 15 milliom degrees and cuts him to shreds, Enel adds more shit by spamming crazy voltage attacks, Crocodile buries him, Nagato uses Human Path to take away his soul, dead.

Goku is FTL. Battles in namek, escaping frieza's imprisonment light ball, as well as calculations can prove that.
None of the atacks you said, even when combined, are close to continent buster lvl. Goku can tank planet buster lvl atacks, and if we go by BoG, he might have tanked a galaxy buster atack.

He can blitz pretty much everyone. And considering the strength of his kicks, one kick is enough.

P3ĮÑ · Jan 31, 2014

But I don't think anyone in the HST has enough DC to out goku down anyway, he's very durable.

Edit: indeed ^

It's a stalemate IMO. Just like 7thBOPF said lol

-immortal- · Jan 31, 2014