Goku with no hands vs the HST

[Wolfus]

Lol Goku can shoot blasts out his feet.

It don't matter though, people who think Goku can just plain solo the HST without hands overestimating Goku. Not that simple.

Even with his hands you gotta remember people like logias from OP, other hax ass people from Bleach, and even in Naruto there's at least some haxish stuff (like the soulf*cking dragons).

HST wins, and pretty easy. People have to remember when we say HST we mean the verse as a whole. Lol

Except for the logias(whcih people are saying that can't be harmed), HST has nothing on goku. He is too fast for them, they're lucky if they can see a FTL guy moving.
No one in bleach nor naruto achieve continent buster lvl, and goku has planet lvl durability. They're not going to harm him. As for other atacks like soul ripping, he can just dodge.

 

[7th Biggest OP Fan]

But did you see my explanation about goku's strength?
The energy output of the dbz chars is nothing more than their own energy. Which means that they could use the same energy to kick with equal "force" as his ki blasts(as to make a force, one must use some amount of energy W=F.D.cosa)
Isn't that enough to damage those logias?

So when are you going to watch One Piece?


I could put enough force into the swing of a bat that could destroy the world, it still would not hurt a logia, all it would do is go through them.

This is Kizaru.

[video=youtube;kS-TI-4GQUA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS-TI-4GQUA[/video]

@ 2:20
Note how he got chopped in half and still was able to reform

also a nice speed feat, @ 3:28

 

[fati]

In our reality? Yeah. In dbz, and in other fictional worlds(DC and Marvel)? No. Mnay chars can surpass the speed of light due to einsteins relativity not being aplied in these universes.

Instant transmission is ...well instant, but it cant be used in battle because is not movement, and without it goku has not been shown to "faster than light"

 

[Wolfus]

So when are you going to watch One Piece?


I could put enough force into the swing of a bat that could destroy the world, it still would not hurt a logia, all it would do is go through them.

This is Kizaru.

[video=youtube;kS-TI-4GQUA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS-TI-4GQUA[/video]

@ 2:20
Note how he got chopped in half and still was able to reform

also a nice speed feat, @ 3:28

Yeah, people told me that it's impossible to hit them. I wasn't aware of that when I first made that reply. I don't watch OP, sorry.

 

[-immortal-]

So when are you going to watch One Piece?


I could put enough force into the swing of a bat that could destroy the world, it still would not hurt a logia, all it would do is go through them.

This is Kizaru.

[video=youtube;kS-TI-4GQUA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS-TI-4GQUA[/video]

@ 2:20
Note how he got chopped in half and still was able to reform

also a nice speed feat, @ 3:28

im sorry but goku fights at the speed of light. how is he going to stop goku>

 

[Wolfus]

Instant transmission is ...well instant, but it cant be used in battle because is not movement, and without it goku has not been shown to "faster than light"

Goku is FTL. Battles in namek, escaping frieza's imprisonment light ball, as well as calculations can prove that.

 

[P3ĮÑ]

Goku is FTL. Battles in namek, escaping frieza's imprisonment light ball, as well as calculations can prove that.

The best speed calc, if you want to go by calculation was gotenks moving around the world several times was calc'd at Mach 31,000 (Mach 1 is the speed of sound, I'm sure you're aware) ten percent of light speed is Mach 88,100 which is relatavistic .i don't see how he's FTL

 

[7th Biggest OP Fan]

im sorry but goku fights at the speed of light. how is he going to stop goku>

He can't but Goku can't hurt him either. That's the point I was making.


Its a stalemate.

With Goku's hands restricted, he can't use any energy attacks.



Also, someone mentioned the feat of Goku using his feet to form energy attacks.


He rode on his Kamehame wave in DB, BUT he formed it with his hands before doing it.

 

[fati]

The best speed calc, if you want to go by calculation was gotenks moving around the world several times was calc'd at Mach 31,000 (Mach 1 is the speed of sound, I'm sure you're aware) ten percent of light speed is Mach 88,100 which is relatavistic .i don't see how he's FTL

Which is incomparable to light, and that was the fastest movement we have seen in DBZ

 

[-immortal-]

He can't but Goku can't hurt him either. That's the point I was making.


Its a stalemate.

With Goku's hands restricted, he can't use any energy attacks.



Also, someone mentioned the feat of Goku using his feet to form energy attacks.


He rode on his Kamehame wave in DB, BUT he formed it with his hands before doing it.

his kicks are hard enough to solo em

 

[Wolfus]

Which is incomparable to light, and that was the fastest movement we have seen in DBZ

The best speed calc, if you want to go by calculation was gotenks moving around the world several times was calc'd at Mach 31,000 (Mach 1 is the speed of sound, I'm sure you're aware) ten percent of light speed is Mach 88,100 which is relatavistic .i don't see how he's FTL

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See this, the speed part(remove the espace between comic and vine)
Also, calculations based on goku's speed in the saiyan saga(crossing the snake way) shows a FTL result.

EDIT: There is this thread too

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[fati]

He can't but Goku can't hurt him either. That's the point I was making.


Its a stalemate.

With Goku's hands restricted, he can't use any energy attacks.



Also, someone mentioned the feat of Goku using his feet to form energy attacks.


He rode on his Kamehame wave in DB, BUT he formed it with his hands before doing it.

It is either stalemate or the one who outlast the other wins

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

FEET KAMEHAMEHA FTW

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[7th Biggest OP Fan]

It is either stalemate or the one who outlast the other wins

Yeah, kill them in their sleep.


Although Kuma is a robot.......so I doubt he gets tired.
Not to mention top tiers in OP have been shown to fight for 10 days straight(Aokiji and Akainu), and mid tiers for 5 days(Ace and Jinbei).


Also, no one has brought up Espada #2 and his hacks, or Law and his. One hit from either of them and its game.

 

[P3ĮÑ]

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See this, the speed part(remove the espace between comic and vine)
Also, calculations based on goku's speed in the saiyan saga(crossing the snake way) shows a FTL result.

Those aren't legible calculations, since they haven't shown why lasers and beams are FTL even, it's all upon how it's portrayed, it took a legible time frame for gohans kamehameha wave to even reach above the earth's thermosphere. By that beam logic, even kizaru should be FTL ...

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This is how it's calc'd, unless they can verify the speed of the lasers legitmatly, then it's legitimate. Otherwise the HURR light speed beams logic has been going on for decades lol. To calc the things to keep in account, are distance traveled, and in what time frame. That's how calculations are supposedly based.

 

[Tendou00]

Goku one shot Lol

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[fati]

Goku one shot Lol

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Those are pretty cool I totally forgot those

 

[Wolfus]

Those aren't legible calculations, since they haven't shown why lasers and beams are FTL even, it's all upon how it's portrayed, it took a legible time frame for gohans kamehameha wave to even reach above the earth's thermosphere. By that beam logic, even kizaru should be FTL ...

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This is how it's calc'd, unless they can verify the speed of the lasers legitmatly, then it's legitimate. Otherwise the HURR light speed beams logic has been going on for decades lol. To calc the things to keep in account, are distance traveled, and in what time frame. That's how calculations are supposedly based.

Those weren't calculations, those were feats.
Also, dbz is incosistent with speed, and most of it is slowed down for us to see.

Also, dodging the laser wasn't the only thing done. There were the ki blasts(proven to be almost at light speed with piccolo).
And you're forgeting goku's speed at the snake way, which was used many times(including by deathbattle, who ddin't even consider goku's powers up in base form).

 

[P3ĮÑ]

Those weren't calculations, those were feats.
Also, dbz is incosistent with speed, and most of it is slowed down for us to see.

Also, dodging the laser wasn't the only thing done. There were the ki blasts(proven to be almost at light speed with piccolo).
And you're forgeting goku's speed at the snake way, which was used many times(including by deathbattle, who ddin't even consider goku's powers up in base form).

I don't want to argue the FTL thing mainly, as I usually avoid that matter, it's the same thing as explaining the energy equivalence rule like ki= or does not = chakra. Alright, we say goku is FTl? But by what margin? And piccolo stated ki blasts are FTL? :/

 

[xcoyote]

Danzo solos.