Yata doesn't block everything.

[AlphaScythian]

There are no light based attacks in this manga lol.
It can block sound if itachi wants it to lol, for all we know itachi was reading the lips wit sharingan
Search up definition of "All" and "Any", understand it.

 

[Wolfus]

Again, bring some manga support as proof or stop complaining about it. Unless you want Tenten to be ranked higher than Hagoromo due to lack of concrete evidence, and rankings based only on hype.

Oh really? Funny you bring up tenten. So let's use her hype of 100% accuracy. If her target is madara's head, then she will hit it, no matter what. She always hits the target, always. Since we're going against common sense in here, what's the problem?

 

[The Necromancer]

But I'm not postulating the hype is false and using it as an argument. I'm using evidence to shows that it wouldn't block all atacks. There are atacks in the manga that the shield can't block, such as kamui and deva path abilities. So, it doesn't block all atacks.
As for the rest, I just used logic basing myself on the drawings in the manga, that were also made by kishimoto.

That would just require common sense, not hype. And as you said, somethings might be hyperboles. One can't blindly trust in something that might be partially correct and or even worse, completely wrong. It's just stupid to do so.

Basically, being religious doesn't mean being dumb, being an atheist doesn't mean being smart.

-Wolfus

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Oh really? Funny you bring up tenten. So let's use her hype of 100% accuracy. If her target is madara's head, then she will hit it, no matter what. She always hits the target, always. Since we're going against common sense in here, what's the problem?

Hype that was proven wrong concretely in the manga. Yata has not been. We can do this all day with all pages of the manga and Databook.

 

[Wolfus]

There are no light based attacks in this manga lol.
It can block sound if itachi wants it to lol, for all we know itachi was reading the lips wit sharingan
Search up definition of "All" and "Any", understand it.

Irrelevant. If there was, it would get through.

Assumption. And the sharingan wasn't even drawn when he was talking to oro and sasuke. So sound was getting through.
Besides, does the shield have a mind on his own to identify what are atack and what are not? Like" oh, that's an atack, I'mma block it". "Oh, that? Nah, that's cool". If you have a shield, and you put it on your face, it will block everything that was going in that direction. If someone tells you "Hey, catch", and it hits the shield, it will be "blocked", being an atack or not.
The shield won't know if it's an atack or not.

Try using logic, fapboy.

 

[Wolfus]

"Basically, people are not stupid by having a belief about something that is unsure." -Wolfus

Interesting. It is unsure, isn't it. However, that's not the point. The point is that the information came form a sourced that was PROVEN to be mistaken. Not once, not twice, many times.
Therefore, it's common sense to avoind vlindly trusting in that.

Another thing is: I said "blindly believe". Remember what I said about being smart or not is related to letting a belief blind you or not? That's the situation.

Nice try, though.

Hype that was proven wrong concretely in the manga. Yata has not been. We can do this all day with all pages of the manga and Databook.

Indeed, we could do this all day. And we would just find one mistake after another. Mistaken sources of information aren't reliable and shouldn't be used on a debate. If you're that desperate to prove a point that you will got against common sense, fine. But if you had to it to prove a point, your point, as I said, isn't very good.

 

[Wolfus]

Sound techniques simply can go around the yata mirror, It does not block his entire being as a sphere, It doesn't block his back and it doesn't engulf the entirety of his sides.

Let me give you an example, there is a sound proof glass wall connected only to the ground, To its sides and upward is air. If you are behind said glass wall and I speak to you, you can still hear the sound that goes around the glass.

In regards to the light thing, it is a spirtual weapon so it can be seen through and exists. I will propose that spiritual weapons have different properties attributed to them. light reflects off of the spiritual object and back to our eyes and thus we see it as normal (which is compliant with yata mirrors abilities). However since the object is spiritual when viewing it, it shall always be see through no matter what. Spiritual objects just have the property that even when light reflects off of them they are still see through. And before you say that doesn't make sense, clearly not all of the physical laws that apply in our world apply in the Naruto world.
Also if that doesn't convince you, then I shall say that the yata mirror/the user of the yata mirror simply does not view normal light as a threat, but would view an attack using light or electromagnetic waves as a threat and thus repel them.

1- Wasn't there a scan showing yata's effect fully covering itachi? I've seen fanboys using it all the time.

2-I got your point. But the thing is not seeing the shield, but what was behind him. Itachi put the shield in front of him, yet we could see him. But I got your point: we can see through spiritual things even though they're blocking the light. But that would be just an assumption, right?

3- Besides, does the shield have a mind on his own to identify what are atack and what are not? Like" oh, that's an atack, I'mma block it". "Oh, that? Nah, that's cool". If you have a shield, and you put it on your face, it will block everything that was going in that direction. If someone tells you "Hey, catch", and it hits the shield, it will be "blocked", being an atack or not.

 

[The Necromancer]

Interesting. It is unsure, isn't it. However, that's not the point. The point is that the information came form a sourced that was PROVEN to be mistaken. Not once, not twice, many times.
Therefore, it's common sense to avoind vlindly trusting in that.

Another thing is: I said "blindly believe". Remember what I said about being smart or not is related to letting a belief blind you or not? That's the situation.

Nice try, though.

So is the bible. Or the Quran. Or whatever I'm sure you believe in.

But alas, I have friends to go hang out with. So I'm done with you. Message me when you find that manga scan of Yata failing.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Irrelevant. If there was, it would get through.

Assumption. And the sharingan wasn't even drawn when he was talking to oro and sasuke. So sound was getting through.
Besides, does the shield have a mind on his own to identify what are atack and what are not? Like" oh, that's an atack, I'mma block it". "Oh, that? Nah, that's cool". If you have a shield, and you put it on your face, it will block everything that was going in that direction. If someone tells you "Hey, catch", and it hits the shield, it will be "blocked", being an atack or not.
The shield won't know if it's an atack or not.

Try using logic, fapboy.

Lol given that gaara's sand can block incoming attack even w/o gaara's awareness i say why wont godly supernatural shield wont do the same?

 

[Wolfus]

So is the bible. Or the Quran. Or whatever I'm sure you believe in.

Nice try, again. However, I don't believe in most things in those books. Besides, I never used them in a debate.

And even if one believes in those books, believing in something is VERY different from blindly believing in something.

Lol given that gaara's sand can block incoming attack even w/o gaara's awareness i say why wont godly supernatural shield wont do the same?

Gaara's and is completely different from yata. It was already stated the reason to why gaara's sand move to protect him.

 

[Prince Charles]

It has already been shown sound techniques can be repelled back, tayuya got her sound genjutsu blown back by temari's fuuton.

 

[Wolfus]

It has already been shown sound techniques can be repelled back, tayuya got her sound genjutsu blown back by temari's fuuton.

I never said sound techniques can't be countered. However, yata didn't display the ability to use futon, and we saw sound getting through it.

 

[TrollingSage]

There are no light based attacks in this manga lol.
It can block sound if itachi wants it to lol, for all we know itachi was reading the lips wit sharingan
Search up definition of "All" and "Any", understand it.

Maybe he means Kabuto's white rage? Yata mirror sure as hell didnt protect Itachi from it.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Maybe he means Kabuto's white rage? Yata mirror sure as hell didnt protect Itachi from it.

Sure as hell it wasnt even there moron.

 

[EternalFlame]

Comparing Yata Hype to other top-tier hype such as Amaterasu being as hot as the sun is the epitome of stupidity. The differences are right in your face: Yata Mirror hype has not been contracted or proven wrong whereas a lot of the other "unbelievable" hype has been. That's why people keep saying the Yata is indestructible, that's why it keeps getting brought up in debates, that's why it keeps getting accepted as factual. Until there's factual proof from a future Databook or Manga issue saying or showing the Yata Mirror not doing what it's said to do - then it will and shall remain indestructible.

I'm not even sure what the problem is, why is it so Downplayed so much? Don't bring the whole "Because fanboys overrate it" bullshit to me. It's impossible to overrate an item which is clearly the ultimate defence. The Yata Mirror is a legendary spiritual item, other then it's sibling items there's nothing else known like it. Is it downplayed because Itachi had it, someone that's clearly inferior to the top-tiers now? I think that's it. If the shield stayed with the Sage, I bet it would never get downplayed.

 

[Wolfus]

Sure as hell it wasnt even there moron.

Sure as hell he could've used it, moron.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Sure as hell he could've used it, moron.

Sure as hell kishi told him not to, idiot.

 

[Owarij]

Maybe he means Kabuto's white rage? Yata mirror sure as hell didnt protect Itachi from it.

Itachi didn't use his weapons for the entire fight. Plot

 

[SharinganisOP]

1- Wasn't there a scan showing yata's effect fully covering itachi? I've seen fanboys using it all the time.

2-I got your point. But the thing is not seeing the shield, but what was behind him. Itachi put the shield in front of him, yet we could see him. But I got your point: we can see through spiritual things even though they're blocking the light. But that would be just an assumption, right?

3- Besides, does the shield have a mind on his own to identify what are atack and what are not? Like" oh, that's an atack, I'mma block it". "Oh, that? Nah, that's cool". If you have a shield, and you put it on your face, it will block everything that was going in that direction. If someone tells you "Hey, catch", and it hits the shield, it will be "blocked", being an atack or not.

1. As far as I know, I don't believe there is a scan that shows yata as a spherical encasement that protects 100% of Itachi. If it did I would hype him way more than I already do.

2. Yes it is just a speculation and assumptions, but what isn't an assumption is that not all of the physical laws that apply in our world apply in theirs, which is why I believe it to be possible.

 

[Wolfus]

Comparing Yata Hype to other top-tier hype such as Amaterasu being as hot as the sun is the epitome of stupidity. The differences are right in your face: Yata Mirror hype has not been contracted or proven wrong whereas a lot of the other "unbelievable" hype has been. That's why people keep saying the Yata is indestructible, that's why it keeps getting brought up in debates, that's why it keeps getting accepted as factual. Until there's factual proof from a future Databook or Manga issue saying or showing the Yata Mirror not doing what it's said to do - then it will and shall remain indestructible.

I'm not even sure what the problem is, why is it so Downplayed so much? Don't bring the whole "Because fanboys overrate it" bullshit to me. It's impossible to overrate an item which is clearly the ultimate defence. The Yata Mirror is a legendary spiritual item, other then it's sibling items there's nothing else known like it. Is it downplayed because Itachi had it, someone that's clearly inferior to the top-tiers now? I think that's it. If the shield stayed with the Sage, I bet it would never get downplayed.

The databook has made many mistakes before(there was a thread with a list of these mistakes). Any source of information that has given false information many times can't be blindly taken as a fact.
This is common sense.

My point is: we should obviously take in consideration the databook. But we shouldn't blindly believe in it and take it's statements as "facts until proven otherwise". This would be stupid.

Another thing is: kishi can easily change his mind and opinions. This changes will most likely be seen in the manga. But it's likely that kishi won't care or won't remember to add that change to the databook.

Following this, maybe when he wrote the databook, yata could block all Atacks UNTIL THEN. Kishi hadn't created the powerful atacks we see nowadays, so he didn't think about them when writing the databook.

It all comes down to logic. I used kishi's drawings and scientific logic to prove my point. There are light based atacks on the manga(kabuto's SM atack, I don't remember the name) and sound based atacks as well. Following what I explained, yata doesn't block everything as it is said to block. So, there is a big chance that the statement was nothing more than a hyperbole

And the reason people don't believe in it: common sense and lack of feats.

 

[SharinganisOP]

1- Wasn't there a scan showing yata's effect fully covering itachi? I've seen fanboys using it all the time.

2-I got your point. But the thing is not seeing the shield, but what was behind him. Itachi put the shield in front of him, yet we could see him. But I got your point: we can see through spiritual things even though they're blocking the light. But that would be just an assumption, right?

3- Besides, does the shield have a mind on his own to identify what are atack and what are not? Like" oh, that's an atack, I'mma block it". "Oh, that? Nah, that's cool". If you have a shield, and you put it on your face, it will block everything that was going in that direction. If someone tells you "Hey, catch", and it hits the shield, it will be "blocked", being an atack or not.

1. As far as I know, I don't believe there is a scan that shows yata as a spherical encasement that protects 100% of Itachi. If it did I would hype him way more than I already do.

2. Yes it is just a speculation and assumptions, but what isn't an assumption is that not all of the physical laws that apply in our world apply in theirs, which is why I believe it to be possible.

3. It is possible that the shield becomes intangible depending on what the owner finds a threat on both a conscience level a non-conscience level. Simply put it could be one of the shields abilities, it just does it. How does the totsuka sword know to seal? A normal sword doesn't have such an ability, if you pierce someone with a normal sword they definitely won't get sucked into a gourd. To put it plain and simply it is just another one of it's abilities that it just has. It is not a normal shield, and shouldn't be treated as such.

Edit: also it would seem my browser posted my post earlier before I was done, sadface. anyways read number 3.