Mu VS Mei, Tsunade & Sakura

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I am have many agrees with this statement.



He was called the "non person" or "null man" exclusively because of the Jutsu he used. The he was so proficient with the technique that he was able to completely erase his chakra signature, and is directly stated in the manga that he erases his physical presence, unlike the rock Shinobi Obito killed. If he did have a physical form he wouldn't have died when he fought the Mizukage, he wouldn't have been sealed away and he would've beaten Onoki in their battle.

Clones won't help when he's not able to use Jinton in that form.

Lol, don't compare Tobirama to that fodder Hashirama. Everyone and their grandmother knows Mū beats him.

What does that mean? Gaara physically sensed him through physically touching his physical form with physical sand.
You physically get me?
 

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My point being that if he did have a physical form or was overly skilled at killing in that state then your argument would've been valid. Lol calm yourself; you notice that the only time s Mū was harmed was when he was visible.

At any rate; the only method to detect Mū is via contact sensing, meaning he can be subject to Tobirama's technique. Meaning he can't pierce Tobirama's armour, meaning he loses.

I am sensing much mad that Mū beats Hashirama.
 

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What does that mean? Gaara physically sensed him through physically touching his physical form with physical sand.
You physically get me?

lmao, this. Its as clear as day he maintains a physical form.
 

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My point being that if he did have a physical form or was overly skilled at killing in that state then your argument would've been valid. Lol calm yourself; you notice that the only time s Mū was harmed was when he was visible.

At any rate; the only method to detect Mū is via contact sensing, meaning he can be subject to Tobirama's technique. Meaning he can't pierce Tobirama's armour, meaning he loses.

I am sensing much mad that Mū beats Hashirama.
Yet you wanna tell me, he stands a chance against the physically strongest person, who can enhance her speed/strength to any volume she wants.. and someone who can hear your heart.. and someone who has deadly acid that melt you.... Really?

And whats more funny is, you guys are in the delusion that they won't use strategies...


ahahah though i'm the one who stated by the logic applied to Muu > the females, Muu > Hashirama. =]. Didn't see me argue against that. AAHAHAHA
 

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One can't be a kage with one jutsu,It means that we just don't know everything about him/her.
No,Iam not saying that u can beat anyone just because ur a kage but one must be skilled enough to take the tittle of Kage,If a person who is skilled enough to take the title of Kage don't even know how to fight someone like Muu then it would ruin the title of Kage.
Even a Kid Kakashi can do fine against that kind of move,I can't see how a kage level shinobi would face much difficulty,Muu might be alot better than any of them individually but I can't see him outlasting more than one kage level shinobi.

I know that this argument is not valid in a VS debate which is why I have already mentioned that I can see Muu winning this as he can beat 3 of them according to feats.

But it defies commonsense IMO,that's y I said that team ladies would win this,Plz don't drag this anylonger and let us agree to disagree if don't want to accept this.

Its just an example, im trying to show you the principle. that rank isnt everything. IF your skill is simply rendered useless against another fighting style they thats just the way it is. Yes kage means they are strong but everyone has exploits and weaknesses. Because of the weaknesses certain non-kage shinobi can win.

Exactly, rank wise would be A>B>C logic but it doesn't apply when logic and feats kick in. I respect your input
 

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Its just an example, im trying to show you the principle. that rank isnt everything. IF your skill is simply rendered useless against another fighting style they thats just the way it is. Yes kage means they are strong but everyone has exploits and weaknesses. Because of the weaknesses certain non-kage shinobi can win.

Exactly, rank wise would be A>B>C logic but it doesn't apply when logic and feats kick in. I respect your input
And this boy is still saying Feats = everything. But fails to realize that feats depend on the scenario and the screen time the character is in. Lord.
 

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Yet you wanna tell me, he stands a chance against the physically strongest person, who can enhance her speed/strength to any volume she wants.. and someone who can hear your heart.. and someone who has deadly acid that melt you.... Really?

And whats more funny is, you guys are in the delusion that they won't use strategies...


ahahah though i'm the one who stated by the logic applied to Muu > the females, Muu > Hashirama. =]. Didn't see me argue against that. AAHAHAHA

Again, wasn't being serious. It's not like this matchup deserves a serious answer.
 

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Calm down KingHashirama, Jinton one shots.
 

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My boy, did you not see the Muu >> Anyone who is not a juubi jin?

Butthurt ebccause you know he wins this match-up, would be easier if you didnt fabricate a way for her to win.

because she supposedly hears his heart she wins? haters at their finest
 

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Muu is a perfect sensor, can go invisible, can fly and turn anything into dust.

Hearing someone's irregular heart beat is medical diagnosis she makes in front of a person, like she recognized other symptoms of a patient.

Here, she is in middle of a battle, on a battle field where her opponent is agile, moves, uses techniques and feints, etc. Hearing Muu's heart beat to recognize his location based on her making medical diagnosis on her opposite. U mad?

And she can boost her power and speed to any volume she wants? Kidding?

Let her go in close combat like she always does and she gets turned to dust by a Jinton beam which speed was already demonstrated..
 

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Oh but we can't say he doesn't have a physical form, when hes invisible when it hasn't stated to be non-physical when he goes invisible.

Yes and and then muu can also make clones, and solo that way. Plus, I assume Muu solos Hashirama also =D. Since Hashirama doesn't even have FTG to avoid Jinton.


Now do you know how stupid you sound right now?

Show me where its stated that she only heard it because it was erratic? She needs to hear the heart first to say its erratic.

Are you implying that the heart makes a different sound when its erratic? rofl. #LogicSoFlawed

she heard it because . your not very intelligent are you. you come with the statement that chakra control boosts hearing and then your saying she can hear a normal heartbeat, show me the scan. #hatersgunahate #fools-R-US
 

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she heard it because . your not very intelligent are you. you come with the statement that chakra control boosts hearing and then your saying she can hear a normal heartbeat, show me the scan. #hatersgunahate #fools-R-US

I provided a scan to prove my point, stop asking for scans, when you can't provide a single one yourself. ROFL! My boy trolling and sayin other people mad. When you the first one to start insultin brah!

Muu is a perfect sensor, can go invisible, can fly and turn anything into dust.

Hearing someone's irregular heart beat is medical diagnosis she makes in front of a person, like she recognized other symptoms of a patient.

Here, she is in middle of a battle, on a battle field where her opponent is agile, moves, uses techniques and feints, etc. Hearing Muu's heart beat to recognize his location based on her making medical diagnosis on her opposite. U mad?

And she can boost her power and speed to any volume she wants? Kidding?

Let her go in close combat like she always does and she gets turned to dust by a Jinton beam which speed was already demonstrated..
No false, she can stand in one place and sense him out with that, while Sakura and Mei are on the look at.

It is only a medical diagnosis because she made it into one. Otherwise that feat by itself is simply her hearing his heart.

Are you trying to tell me, that more volume of chakra doesn't increase your speed and strength? ok sir.

Yup and let Muu come close, and she blitzes him just like she did to Oro... Of course this scenario would be fanboyism, because you and others disagree with it. correct? =]
 
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Muu is a perfect sensor, can go invisible, can fly and turn anything into dust.

Hearing someone's irregular heart beat is medical diagnosis she makes in front of a person, like she recognized other symptoms of a patient.

Here, she is in middle of a battle, on a battle field where her opponent is agile, moves, uses techniques and feints, etc. Hearing Muu's heart beat to recognize his location based on her making medical diagnosis on her opposite. U mad?

And she can boost her power and speed to any volume she wants? Kidding?

Let her go in close combat like she always does and she gets turned to dust by a Jinton beam which speed was already demonstrated..

been sayin this exact thing for 2 pages now, glad someone else said it

Oh but we can't say he doesn't have a physical form, when hes invisible when it hasn't stated to be non-physical when he goes invisible.

Yes and and then muu can also make clones, and solo that way. Plus, I assume Muu solos Hashirama also =D. Since Hashirama doesn't even have FTG to avoid Jinton.


Now do you know how stupid you sound right now?

Show me where its stated that she only heard it because it was erratic? She needs to hear the heart first to say its erratic.

Are you implying that the heart makes a different sound when its erratic? rofl. #LogicSoFlawed

she heard it because its irregular. your not very intelligent are you. you come with the statement that chakra control boosts hearing and then your saying she can hear a normal heartbeat, show me the scan. #hatersgunahate #fools-R-US
 

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I provided a scan to prove my point, stop asking for scans, when you can't provide a single one yourself. ROFL! My boy trolling and sayin other people mad. When you the first one to start insultin brah!

What do i need to prove, everything ive said is in the manga and explicitly state LEL take your fanfic somewhere else
 

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KingHashirama -> Provides a scan where a medic makes medical diagnosis on his opposite and calls it a battle skill.

Team 2 wins inb4 Muu busts the whole country with Jinton. ;)
 
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