kishi redesigned Tobirama

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yea i mean i like tobirama but it really annoys me that he is just a weaker version of minato
 

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Adding to that statement, we can take real-life examples.

How many of you know why Alexander the Great was so revered? Or, how many of you actually know of him?

but really no one gives a F about that guy
 

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naw dog kisame will remain the king of suiton U_U
stronger chakra = stronger jutsu.

Tobirama in the end will probably have the stronger suiton. I mean his lil water jutsu, could possibly cut through any of Kisame's water jutsus besides the Big ole Shark he used against Guy.

Mei is actually the best Suiton user shown.
 

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stronger chakra = stronger jutsu.

Tobirama in the end will probably have the stronger suiton. I mean his lil water jutsu, could possibly cut through any of Kisame's water jutsus besides the Big ole Shark he used against Guy.

Mei is actually the best Suiton user shown.

Everything you said is speculation and wishful thinking, until we get more feats of tobirama, kisame's suiton will remain superior.

Lol mei? Better than kisame? Nice trolling.
 

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For me tobirama lost his hype when I believed he was killed by the ginkaku force. Hiruzen still better than tobirama. How can madara break edo tensei but oro was able to control tobirama twice with it. If hiruzen is hype so is tobirama
 

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I was always expecting Kishi to make Tobirama OP, come on I mean, let's face it, he is Hashi's bro(God of shinobi's bro), the one who said to have invented Edo tensei, one of the OP techs, and was second hokage.So yeah it wasn't that much surprising for me.:|
 

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well tobirama would have looked a retard trying to throw suiton jutsus at someone who can negate ninjutsu

hiraishin is really useful, it saved the alliance twice, it helped land hit on juubito thrice and it also saved the main characters

along with sage mode and a couple others, kishi puts S/T as one of the top tier powers

people can wank suiton as fools if they like
 

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I was always expecting Kishi to make Tobirama OP, come on I mean, let's face it, he is Hashi's bro(God of shinobi's bro), the one who said to have invented Edo tensei, one of the OP techs, and was second hokage.So yeah it wasn't that much surprising for me.:|

agreed... tobirama is just another hiruzen or worse tsunade. Tobirama is such a wasted character..
 

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or one can not acknowledge the facts.

"Without the past, there is no future."

He changed the world, more than most ever have in one lifetime. The only one not acknowledging the facts is you, or maybe you don't realise that the past's legacy is the foundations for the future. Put simply, how can there be an end if there is no start? Anyway, I digress.

On topic, I would like to point out that quantity does not equal quality. Sasuke's Goukakyuu no Jutsu can be far larger than his Chidori but it's no way near as potent.
 

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Everything you said is speculation and wishful thinking, until we get more feats of tobirama, kisame's suiton will remain superior.

Lol mei? Better than kisame? Nice trolling.
And you are naive enough to expect feats, when there is no reason?

You should be grown enough to apply logic though ahahah, shouldn't be waiting for the writer to spoon feed you things =p

Kisame > mei? Nice fanboying.
 

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Fact of the matter is by 'feats' even Zabuza has Tobirama beat.

Though the fact that the only Jutsu Tobirama has used this far in part two is so destructive has me hopeful of what's to come.
 

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And you are naive enough to expect feats, when there is no reason?

You should be grown enough to apply logic though ahahah, shouldn't be waiting for the writer to spoon feed you things =p

Kisame > mei? Nice fanboying.

...... kisame>tobirama in suiton until further notice, stop riding a fiction characters dik its petty and weird!

yes kisame>mei IN SUITON, I have scans and feats from the manga which kishimoto created that saids im right!

NEXT!
 

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...... kisame>tobirama in suiton until further notice, stop riding a fiction characters dik its petty and weird!

yes kisame>mei IN SUITON, I have scans and feats from the manga which kishimoto created that saids im right!

NEXT!

Kisame > Mei overall not just suiton...
 

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"Without the past, there is no future."

He changed the world, more than most ever have in one lifetime. The only one not acknowledging the facts is you, or maybe you don't realise that the past's legacy is the foundations for the future. Put simply, how can there be an end if there is no start? Anyway, I digress.

On topic, I would like to point out that quantity does not equal quality. Sasuke's Goukakyuu no Jutsu can be far larger than his Chidori but it's no way near as potent.

Did i ever tell you the definition of insanity is?
Insanity is Doing the exact same ****ing thing over and over again expecting it to change , That is crazy.
The first time somebody told me that , i don't know i thought they where bullshting me so, boom
i owned him. The thing is, okay he was right. and then i started to see it , everywhere i looked .. everywhere i looked all those fcking fanboys doing the exact same fcking thing over and over and over and over again
thinking this time is gonne be different no , no no please This time is gonne be different - Vaas


i mean seriously you fanboys keep telling the same shit over and over again. but no fcking sht changes.


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...... kisame>tobirama in suiton until further notice, stop riding a fiction characters dik its petty and weird!

yes kisame>mei IN SUITON, I have scans and feats from the manga which kishimoto created that saids im right!

NEXT!

Dayummm brah you couldn't read that sh*t without assuming someone was fanboying huh. Dayum.

No one stated Kisame < Tobirama in the first place. Go read what i said again. Until you can show me feats of Kisame having a water jutsu that is sharp as a sword can cuts the precisely, I can't say Kisame's water jutsu is STRONGER than Tobirama's.

Yea having feats from someone who needed them, comparing them to someone who didn't need them clearly shows kishimoto believes Kisame > Mei. Right?
 

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Did i ever tell you the definition of insanity is?
Insanity is Doing the exact same ****ing thing over and over again expecting it to change , That is crazy.
The first time somebody told me that , i don't know i thought they where bullshting me so, boom
i owned him. The thing is, okay he was right. and then i started to see it , everywhere i looked .. everywhere i looked all those fcking fanboys doing the exact same fcking thing over and over and over and over again
thinking this time is gonne be different no , no no please This time is gonne be different - Vaas


i mean seriously you fanboys keep telling the same shit over and over again. but no fcking sht changes.


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Wow, you really are dim. You're supposed to take the best lessons of the past, and try and change the future for the better by discarding the worst concepts.

P.S. Not a fanboy, never defended any character unless there's a valid reason - bias is not valid. Lol there's actually only two characters I don't like, but I'll still defend them if I think they're better at something or have chances to win against a certain opponent.
 
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Wow, you really are pretty dim.

P.S. Not a fanboy, never defended any character unless there's a valid reason - bias is not valid.

its not Like i am fcking crazy okay?

OT: alrighty then
 
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