kishi redesigned Tobirama

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For me tobirama lost his hype when I believed he was killed by the ginkaku force. Hiruzen still better than tobirama. How can madara break edo tensei but oro was able to control tobirama twice with it. If hiruzen is hype so is tobirama

Orochimaru was controlling them and he had hashirama's dna to strengthen the bind on them hashirama walking around having not broke the edo tensei is more of a feat than madara who had almost full control if not full to cancel it.
 

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Fact of the matter is by 'feats' even Zabuza has Tobirama beat.

Though the fact that the only Jutsu Tobirama has used this far in part two is so destructive has me hopeful of what's to come.

there's nothing coming I think, he already got taken out by Madara
 

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Because when the manga doesn't go your way it means Kishimoto must have redesigned it. :rolleyes:
 

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Dayummm brah you couldn't read that sh*t without assuming someone was fanboying huh. Dayum.

No one stated Kisame < Tobirama in the first place. Go read what i said again. Until you can show me feats of Kisame having a water jutsu that is sharp as a sword can cuts the precisely, I can't say Kisame's water jutsu is STRONGER than Tobirama's.

Yea having feats from someone who needed them, comparing them to someone who didn't need them clearly shows kishimoto believes Kisame > Mei. Right?

smh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! your petty as fuk bro! im just keeping it real thats all!

kisame>mei in suiton from kishi himself! deal with it! your embarrassing your self dude!


and at BOLD. still petty I see!
 

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No point in using water if you can walk on it like Jesus.
 

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smh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! your petty as fuk bro! im just keeping it real thats all!

kisame>mei in suiton from kishi himself! deal with it! your embarrassing your self dude!


and at BOLD. still petty I see!

My boy telling others to not make assumptions, but makes the biggest assumption and fanboyistic comment on the thread. TROLOLOLO
 

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Tobimaru created everything. :rolleyes: Face it. You have nothing on him. You try to criticize his proficiency in water manipulation that you are overlooking his skills. Example, in the fight against Orochimaru and Hurizen, and Orochimaru revive Tobimaru and Hashirama using Edo Tensei, when Hurizen spew a fire attack, Tobimaru counter with a water barrier and water shock wave using the same water source he spat out. Those two Jutsu alone are consider high level because the chakra knead for the technique and volume of water it produce.
 

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Kishi began rewriting the expectations for him when Minato fought Obito. Before that most people associated him with water. I kinda hate Kishi didn't build on that and let Minato keep the S/T stuff to himself. Kinda cool every Kage had something they were unique for: Hasirama and wood, Tobirama, Hiruzen and fire, Minato and S/T, and Tsunade and healing.
 

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Without Samehada, Mei is the superior Suiton user. Or they both are at the same level.
 

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Without Samehada, Mei is the superior Suiton user. Or they both are at the same level.

Lol what? samehada is not needed here for kisame to make his suiton.

Get outta here, I heard the circus was in town but I never knew clowns were so disgraceful.

Until proven otherwise kisame is superior to Mei in suiton with samehada or no samehada.
 

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You're wrong minato said that when fighting obito in the leaf village he said that obito's space time no jutsu is better than his and. Second's
 

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TBH, I'm a little disappointed in Tobirama.

He got owned by the Kin Gin bros, Kinkaku force, Obito, and now Madara.

His only documented win was against Izuna as a sneak attack.
 

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what? samehada is not needed here for kisame to make his suiton.

Get outta here, I heard the circus was in town but I never knew clowns were so disgraceful.

Until proven otherwise kisame is superior to Mei in suiton with samehada or no samehada.

Water Dome was made by merging with Samehada. No one said he uses Sution through Samehada. If you take water dome out, Mei and Kisame are equal. I find Mei to be more versatile through her Dragon-Suiton move. It literally moved at her will. You can't read even if your life depended on it, can you?

Clowns were in town? Tell me something, do you have a life ... like at all? Lmfao I mean, the general vibe of seriousness I get from your posts is as if, if your mom took away your computer, you might probably hang yourself from the ceiling fan.
 

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....

Tobirama who was being restricted from his potential, Was less than half powered and was being controlled as a moving corpse managed to create a suiton from thin air and impressed orochimaru and The anbu fodder.

That's quite a feat if you ask me.

Remember how fodder Hashirama looked back in part 1 compared to part 2 war arc hashi? Well same goes for tobirama.

Tobirama is severely underrated here.

shame.
 
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