[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 661 Discussion and 662 Predictions

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The funny thing about this chapter is that shows how the roles are now reversed between Naruto adn Sasuke. The former was always known for attacking irrationally yet here we are with Sasuke attacking in the same brutal way even against the strongest person. I wonder wether his actions derive from his courage or his stupidity of not knowing what Madara is capable of. Proof, it's first time even that Sasuke got caught off guard so easily by getting stabbed like he is nothing.
 

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Re: Possible New Rinnegan ability, Hell yeah Rinnegan's time finally come

Lol it's not new it's bansho tenin. Pein used it multiple times.
 

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Re: finally the time has arrieved

Damn Dat Tobirama coming in with Hiraishin-Giri and then using the Hiraishin Level 2! Plus fastest man of his Era!!

Plus the only man that can still own Madara in a talking contest!

Well now onto the main topic,

First off: The Edo Hokages aren't at their full power

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Now we saw that Tobirama was going to 1-shot Madara with Hiraishingiri here:

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The thing is Madara sensed that attack and hence survived, but how could he do it?

Answer is simple: Sage Mode!!

The senjutsu absorbed from Hashirama's body allowed him to sense that attack as Senjutsu tell you about an attack even before it happens!

Had it been EMS Madara or Rinnegan Madara with No SM then that was prolly it! Tobirama would've one-shotted his ass and he'd share the same fate as this guy who ironically was at Madara's level [As said by Itachi]

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We also know that Minato is better version of Tobirama in speed, reactions and in Hiraishin. Heck Minato could even take down this Madara with the way he took down Tobi!

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I mean for those who didn't understand, Tobirama used the same tactic as Minato did with Kunai + Hiraishin Level 2!

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Only Hashirama's Sage Mode saved Madara otherwise he was history again U_U

Also on a side note I just have to mention two more things:

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Madara was always wanted to kill Tobirama but couldn't? Why? because he didn't have the skill to do it Lol

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Two:

Madara needed Susanoo to block Lawd Tobirama's casual spit :snick:

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Had he not used it, he'd be dead :whip:
that was no spit it was water gun justu
 

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Re: Possible New Rinnegan ability, Hell yeah Rinnegan's time finally come

Lol it's not new it's bansho tenin. Pein used it multiple times.
really ?, please bring me scan then ;). It may be similliar ability to Bansho Tennin but as far as I remember Bansho Tenin just pulled target towards Rinnegan user. However Rinnegan user aka Nagato or Pain had to extend his hand in target direction beforehand and even then traget never got frozen but was right away pierced or caught by Pein with hand and slamme din ground.

Am I wrong ?
 

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Re: finally the time has arrieved

I knew he didn't use FTG, thought I was going mad lol

Anyway Im not disagreeing with you. Madara will fodderize anyone right now but from what we've seen, minatos ftg does sseem to be in a different league to Tobiramas as well as their shunshin which Minato surpasses him in. I honestly think Minato would have done better, especially if he marked around madara with his kunai.
As far as I can tell both of their ftg's are instant, it's just that Minato seems to be able to use his quicker in sucession while Tobirama takes a few seconds before he can jump again. But I agree, ppl comparing what Minato did to Tobirama aren't giving a fair comparison seeing as Obito does not have SM, and the second time he hit him he was marked.
 

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Re: Possible New Rinnegan ability, Hell yeah Rinnegan's time finally come

Still second to Kakashi's Kamui,stay mad.
Pff Kakashi's Kamui is get to be fodderized especially when Sage of six paths will be comes back into Manga and make him appearance. Once this man shows off his mastery over Rinnegan then Kamui's fans will only can stuck their heads in ground as ostriches do or just cry.

This time is comming, so laugh how much you can until that time :cool:

It was Banshon, not new Rinnegan ability. Second, Kamui > Rinnegan.
I ignore you second point as my favourite > kamui

Besides, but Bansho Tenin requires to extend you hand in target's direction and keep it until target get drawn to you, so even then how Madara could do it by mere glance without need to stare in Sasuke's direction but turns back to him and it was still active..., maybe it was improved version of Bansho Tennin aka BT v2... or Madara is just so good with Rinnegan
 
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Re: finally the time has arrieved

Minato already had his ftg fodderized by juubito, and right now Maddy is pretty much on his level. I'd be wiling to say that Minato wouldn't do any better than Tobirama in that situation.
come now....minato also has the cloak which increases speed...he woulda figured something out against maddy but nothing is stopping madara right now
 

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Looks like next chapter 662 might be call Tears as the Ladies cry over Naruto and Sasuke injuries. Hinata overNaruto Sakura and Karin over Sasuke and Tsunade going crazy trying to keep them alive,don't be surprise if were see flashbacks in chapter 662.
 

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Re: Possible New Rinnegan ability, Hell yeah Rinnegan's time finally come

it wouldn't be that crazy. just a combo of shinra tensei and bansho tenin. which seems pretty credible.
 

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Re: Possible New Rinnegan ability, Hell yeah Rinnegan's time finally come

really ?, please bring me scan then ;). It may be similliar ability to Bansho Tennin but as far as I remember Bansho Tenin just pulled target towards Rinnegan user. However Rinnegan user aka Nagato or Pain had to extend his hand in target direction beforehand and even then traget never got frozen but was right away pierced or caught by Pein with hand and slamme din ground.

Am I wrong ?
Well pein used it before he attacked the village by killing the guards. He didn't extend his hand and made the guy freeze in front of him before killing him. He also used it to bring Hinata in the air then slam her to the ground and used it to take the massive rock to hit the 6tails. And used it to form a rock and throw it at naruto. So bansho tenin is more of a manipulating jutsu and not just a pulling to the user jutsu. Hope that makes sense lol
 
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Re: finally the time has arrieved

come now....minato also has the cloak which increases speed...he woulda figured something out against maddy but nothing is stopping madara right now
Jus saiyan based on what I saw the initial speed of their ftg is the same, it's just that Minato seems to be able to use his back to back in the blink of an eye, while Tobirama needs a few seconds before he can utilize his again, almost like it has a small charge up time.
 

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Re: finally the time has arrieved

As far as I can tell both of their ftg's are instant, it's just that Minato seems to be able to use his quicker in sucession while Tobirama takes a few seconds before he can jump again. But I agree, ppl comparing what Minato did to Tobirama aren't giving a fair comparison seeing as Obito does not have SM, and the second time he hit him he was marked.
Yeah I agree. Madara so OP now (as if he wasn't already -_-) that I can't tell if Juubito is still stronger than current madara.
 

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Yeah I agree. Madara so OP now (as if he wasn't already -_-) that I can't tell if Juubito is still stronger than current madara.
I'd say he is considering he seems to be able to use the rinnegan on a whole new level, with SM sensing and the power of Hashi's chakra reinforcing the scale and strength of pretty much whatever he does.
 

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Well I know Sasuke looks dead. But there is a very little possibility that part of Hashirama's chakra that Sasuke now has will confer on Sasuke similar healing powers as Hashirama.

Also anyone ideas on where Gaara is headed. 2 things we know for sure:
1.) The sealed Kurama gave Gaaara a message or plan or information, something of the sort.
2.) The other Kurama chakra is still with Minato and can easily be given to Naruto.

Finally, it is funny that no one talks anymore of whatever top-secret jutsu Jiraya must have taught Naruto.

Great chapter.
 

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Re: Possible New Rinnegan ability, Hell yeah Rinnegan's time finally come

Well pein used it before he attacked the village by killing the guards. He didn't extend his hand and made the guy freeze in front of him before killing him. He also used it to bring Hinata in the air then slam her to the ground and used it to take the massive rock to hit the 6tails. And used it to form a rock and throw it at naruto. So bansho tenin is more of a manipulating jutsu and not just a pulling to the user jutsu. Hope that makes sense lol
Sorry but bolded part is filler made by Anime to shows Pein's arrival, proof:
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^^ guards are already dead and manga didn't show how Pain killed them...

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^^ Actually Hinata's part was filler too, as Deva Path was only shown using Shinra Tensei on her. The Anime just add him more abilites.

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^^ Again wrong, Just take carefully look. At least in the manga Deva Path has once again extended hands...

Even Edo Nagato extended hand to use BT on Naruto here:
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So even if I can agree that BT is more manipulation target's body and controlling it remotely then it still requires hands to be extended and longer keeping that hand extended until target will come.

What Madara has shown in the lastest chapter is either upgraded version of Bansho Tennin, BT v2 maybe or some similliar technique working on same principles or completly new move to freeze movement.
 

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Well I know Sasuke looks dead. But there is a very little possibility that part of Hashirama's chakra that Sasuke now has will confer on Sasuke similar healing powers as Hashirama.

Also anyone ideas on where Gaara is headed. 2 things we know for sure:
1.) The sealed Kurama gave Gaaara a message or plan or information, something of the sort.
2.) The other Kurama chakra is still with Minato and can easily be given to Naruto.

Finally, it is funny that no one talks anymore of whatever top-secret jutsu Jiraya must have taught Naruto.

Great chapter.
Could you link to the page that the top secret jutsu was mentioned?
 
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