Kakashi or Hiruzen?

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Hiruzen Sarutobi

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Kakashi Hatake

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Who would win in a fight? Honestly I think this is a good matchup for Hiruzen.

Look at these pointer before going straight to say "Hiruzen solos no difficultly".

-Kakashi the "Copy Ninja" could copy a lot of Hiruzen's Jutsu

-Sharingan gives Kakashi an advantage in Taijutsu to keep up with Hiruzen

-Kakashi was on par w/ Obito's skill (Mostly Taijutsu wise)

-Kakashi's Ninja Dogs could be used as backup when Hiruzen uses Enma

-Kakashi has also fought powerful Ninja before such a Zabuza, Deidara, Itachi, Pain, Hidan, Kakuzu, & Obito.


Also note that this isn't Prime Hiruzen he's fighting.

Well any thoughts? Idc who wins honestly, I could honestly care less of the two. But don't think im not gonna challenge what you have to say.
 

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Kamui ends any form of Hiruzen, low difficulty.


Restricting Kamui would make this fight quite a bit more even.
 

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Kamui to the face, negative difficulty
 

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There is this thing called kamui, although I'm not sure if it matters.
 

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If kamui counts then Kakashi takes this low difficulty if not Kakashi takes this low difficulty.
 

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Lol at the kamui posts. You guys think he'll just stand there and take it? Hiruzen wins.
 

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Kamui is nearly instant. Kakashi uses it at the right moment. GG Hiruzen
 

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Lol at the kamui posts. You guys think he'll just stand there and take it? Hiruzen wins.

So explain how Hiruzen is escaping a part of him being sucked into another demension. The only known ways to avoid or escape Kamui are FTG or Kamui
 

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Kamui to the face, negative difficulty
Kamui is not inescapable.

it maybe extremely difficult, but if you keep a constant rate of heavy attacks at a close range it wouldnt give him a chance to use it, as kamui requires a few seconds of preparation, if you manage to damage kakashi's sharingan eye - he wouldnt be able to use it.
 
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Hiruzen is a level above Kakashi. Comparison is that of a poodle to a Pitbull/German Shepard.
 

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So explain how Hiruzen is escaping a part of him being sucked into another demension. The only known ways to avoid or escape Kamui are FTG or Kamui

No. Kakashi has to focus on the target, and Hiruzen would not stand there like an idiot, he would move around and attack. He's not a slow moving target.
 

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What escape does Hiruzen have for Kamui. Apparently Kakashi can Kamui things in a blink of an eye now.

(Kakashi kamui'd Naruto right in Obito's face and Obito didnt even notice)
(Kakashi Kamui'd Gedo Arm in less than a second)
(Only way for Minato to escape or counter Kamui was through FTG.)

What can Hiruzen do to counter/avoid/escape the Kamui?
 

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Portrayal already showed, Kakashi was going to be chosen as Hokage. Therefore, for those who think Hiruzen wins because he is Hokages needs to slap themselves.

P1 Kakashi would even beat Hiruzen. P2 makes no difference except the difficulty will be very low this time.
 

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No. Kakashi has to focus on the target, and Hiruzen would not stand there like an idiot, he would move around and attack. He's not a slow moving target.

we all know how clever Kakashi is with clones. Kakashi will stall Hiruzen with small talk, and Hiruzen likes to sit and talk. Or sexy no jutsu as a last resort. Kakashi can make an illusion of a sexy naked chick, Hiruzen dies from bloddloss, or leaves an opening for Kamui/Raikiri, etc.
 

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What escape does Hiruzen have for Kamui. Apparently Kakashi can Kamui things in a blink of an eye now.

(Kakashi kamui'd Naruto right in Obito's face and Obito didnt even notice)
(Kakashi Kamui'd Gedo Arm in less than a second)
(Only way for Minato to escape or counter Kamui was through FTG.)

What can Hiruzen do to counter/avoid/escape the Kamui?
read my post above
 

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Portrayal already showed, Kakashi was going to be chosen as Hokage. Therefore, for those who think Hiruzen wins because he is Hokages needs to slap themselves.

P1 Kakashi would even beat Hiruzen. P2 makes no difference except the difficulty will be very low this time.
portrayal shows, Kakashi wasn't even on the level of the Sanin.

Kakashi was the strongest after Tsunade...... would have been the weakest of the Kages.. Portrayal shows hes on commander level/high jounin, not Kage level.
 

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Kamui is not inescapable.

it maybe extremely difficult, but if you keep a constant rate of heavy attacks at a close range it wouldnt give him a chance to use it, as kamui requires a few seconds of preparation, if you manage to damage kakashi's sharingan eye - he wouldnt be able to use it.


Yeah...right.. Kamui , Negative difficulty


Lol @ King still spouting his Portrayal crap
 

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