Kakashi or Hiruzen?

[sharingansennin]

Kakashi doesn't need Kamui to take on old Hiruzen. Old Hiruzen's current feats are shat upon by most average Jonin, like Darui and Kitsuchi, let alone Kage-level Jonin like Kakashi and Gai. It's a pity that Kishimoto didn't take advantage of Hiruzen's revival as an Edo Tensei to showcase his capabilities a bit more. The man's entire arsenal is composed of a low-end Katon, some shuriken, and Enma. And a suicide technique, for what its worth.

That isn't going to cut it against most upper tier fighters.

wtf u talkin about darui and kitsuchi are elite jounin

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

Kakashi.

Feat>hype

 

[Gage Hatake]

If you noticed, even when Kakashi used kamui on Gedo, a huge-ass statue, he missed his intended target. So Kakashi might have difficulty hitting Hiruzen. But all-in-all, I think it's a pretty even match up.

 

[Lrrrrr]

Sure-... fodder version Hashi and Tobirama..

Current Kakashi wins that fight, and he wouldn't need to sacrifice himself... He warps Hashi and Oro and seals Tobirama

It was stated Oro perfected Edo Tensei, so they were in full power. Plus, Hiruzen seals mofo's with his clones, you can't beat that.

 

[Ovan]

Woah. Is this what Naruto has come to? So it's the jutsu that makes the ninja and not the ninja that makes the jutsu now?

Part 1 Kakashi < 3rd Hokage
Part 2 Kakashi > 3rd Hokage(Kakashi keeps advancing.3rd is stuck the way he is.)

 

[Xāvî1]

Kamui ends any form of Hiruzen, low difficulty.


Restricting Kamui would make this fight quite a bit more even.

I agree.............

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I guess Rikudou is a fodder..

Roger from One piece is a fodder..

Dragon from one piece is a fodder..

The First generation Gotei 13 from bleach are fodders.. correct?

We got sosp feats through obito and nagato.
Hiruzen is still feat less

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Woah. Is this what Naruto has come to? So it's the jutsu that makes the ninja and not the ninja that makes the jutsu now?

Part 1 Kakashi < 3rd Hokage
Part 2 Kakashi > 3rd Hokage(Kakashi keeps advancing.3rd is stuck the way he is.)

Given the right location part 1 or early part 2 kakashi beats hiruzen

 

[Souji]

Hm, Kakashi wins simply because of Kamui... even then, Hiruzen can break his concentration by staying at a long range and using Enma as an extension of his attacks; Kakashi can't phase through attacks like Obito.

In terms of battle intelligence, tactics and jutsu, they're essentially equal, maybe giving the edge to Hiruzen because he's older and has more experience.

 

[abouda123]

Hiruzen gets a ticket to the cube world low def

 

[garas56]

Kakashi wins Low to Hard dif

 

[Gold Lightning]

Hm, Kakashi wins simply because of Kamui... even then, Hiruzen can break his concentration by staying at a long range and using Enma as an extension of his attacks; Kakashi can't phase through attacks like Obito.

In terms of battle intelligence, tactics and jutsu, they're essentially equal, maybe giving the edge to Hiruzen because he's older and has more experience.

No they are equal in terms of ninjutsu, intelligence, I'd say kakashi has show the better feats when when it comes to tactics. But people are again underestimating kakashi, why would he need kamui again him???

Taijutsu - kakashi is way better because he's faster younger and his sharingan predicts all hiruzens moves. Kakashi also has the elemental advantage since lighting and water is greater than fire and earth.