Why no one's power i "borrowed"

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People complain that Naruto would be nothing without Kurama, Obito would be nothing without Senju DNA, or that Madara would be below Naruto SM without all of his "borrowed power

If we take away all his borrowed power, we get MS Madara. I doubt would even be able to beat Sage Mode Naruto or Nagato for example.

Without his senju DNA Obito is still top 2 at least. He only ever used it to survive. Kamui is the only tool he needs.

Well Naruto should be at the top of this list with Kuramas power

Yeah, I'm calling you out.

But, to the people who feel the same as them, let me tell you this. It doesn't matter, honestly, it doesn't. Naruto is the one that mastered Kurama, so he should deserve the power shouldn't he? Obito is the one who thought up using Kamui in such a way, so he should take advantage of his extra chakra reserves. Madara is the one who awakened his Rinnegan himself without any help and read the Uchiha Stone Tablet and unlocked it's secrets. That's like saying Kiba is borrowing Akamaru, but it's apart of his clan, of him. Why wouldn't they use their extra power? Minato uses FTG, and he uses it to enhance his jutsu range. That's like saying Madara and Nagato are stealing the SO6P jutsus. Naruto might have well been born with Kurama, recieving it merely two/three hours after his birth. In NV, it's common for people to use other's techniques to enhance their own. I think your all just butthurt because most people with "borrowed" power, can easily solo. Jubito borrowed all of the tails, that's not brought up at all. SO6P also was the Ten Tails Jinchuriki, but he's still said to solo. Sasori borrowed the material to make his puppets, Gaara borrows all the normal sand he uses. Point is, it's dumb as h*ll to say that anyone borrows anything.
 
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Agreed, but there we go again...
 

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They are all borrowed, or should i say stolen cause hat bish ate the forbidden fruit.
 

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i agree i think its silly when people use that as an excuse cause they are made or scared that they beat/might beat their fav toon
 

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Tell choji to quit eating chips to get charka stores and turn into butterfly biju chip mode...and shikamaru needs to stop borrowing his shadows power too..good point OP doubt people will care tho..they get too butthurt when someone other than their favorite character gets a powerup ..and they realize the story is called naruto..not itachi or kabuto..or any of the other non main characters who are dead an foddered by one of the characters the story is based around..then of course plot no jutsu is then next thing to blame
 

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Tell choji to quit eating chips to get charka stores and turn into butterfly biju chip mode...and shikamaru needs to stop borrowing his shadows power too..good point OP doubt people will care tho..they get too butthurt when someone other than their favorite character gets a powerup ..and they realize the story is called naruto..not itachi or kabuto..or any of the other non main characters who are dead an foddered by one of the characters the story is based around..then of course plot no jutsu is then next thing to blame

Pretty much everything that happens in the manga makes sense. It's just that they try to find plot holes, then when they can't, they cry PNJ.
 

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They are considered their own powers but if you want to Nit pick it then sure.

Naruto is Kage level without Kurama

Sasuke is fodder without Itachi's eyes. (blind)

Madara is fodder without izuna's eyes (blind)

Obito is fodder without Senju DNA (dead)

Kabuto is fodder without all his stolen techniques/powers
 

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Some things in my opinion really are borrowed power......
Things like
Obito becoming 10 tails late in his life.
Madara absorbing *even more* of Hashirama's powers.
Orochimaru stealing bodies.
Kabuto modifying his body.
Kisame and Samehada sucking up chakra? kind of stealing chakra but not techniques.
Danzo making Itachi kill the Uchiha and collecting sharingan eyes for himself, also stealing Shisui's eye.

This is what i currently can think of, not much more right now that i consider borrowed power.
 

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The OP is an idiot if he think's SM Naruto can beat Madara, Obito.Madara with MS would destroy SM Naruto.BM Naruto couldn't even touch Obito without Kakashi's help, and even Minato knew that Naruto would need the power of Kurama to fight Obito.Sage Mode Naruto would be light work for Obito.



They are considered their own powers but if you want to Nit pick it then sure.

Naruto is Kage level without Kurama

Sasuke is fodder without Itachi's eyes. (blind)

Madara is fodder without izuna's eyes (blind)

Obito is fodder without Senju DNA (dead)

Kabuto is fodder without all his stolen techniques/powers



And this is why you are stupid^^^

Sasuke beat a Kage level shinobi in Diedara without Itachi's eyes.Not to mention, Sasuke has his own MS and he's intelligent.


Madara without Izuna eyes still has MS and he's intelligent

Obito without Hashirama cells has MS, which gives him Kamui.

Kabuto without all his stolen techs is a Kage level shinobi with Dragon Sage Mode he learn from the White Snake Sage, genjutsu, earth and water techs, and he's an highly intelligent Medical Nin.


Naruto is Kage level without Kurama, but all the shinobis listed above will raped him.They are all smarter than Naruto by far, are skilled in an area which is naruto's greatest weakness, genjutsu, and they all have more battle experience.
 
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Without their brothers eye every uchiha that awaken MS would be blind and resort to 3 tomoe which will be jonin level. Naruto would beat all of them without kyuubi.
 

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Without their brothers eye every uchiha that awaken MS would be blind and resort to 3 tomoe which will be jonin level. Naruto would beat all of them without kyuubi.

MS will eventually make you blind which makes you fodder.


We are not talking about eventually, we are talking about shinobi's at the height of their skills battling one on one.Uchiha don't go blind the moment they awaken their MS, so i don't see the point in either of you bringing it up.Unless you are saying Naruto would wait for the Uchihas to go blind before he attempts to fight them.And warlee, try reading the manga;Uchiha who go blind from MS over usage don't revert back to three tomoe sharingans.Going blind means going blind, and even without MS, Madara and Sasuke are still kage level and far more skilled than Naruto.
 

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Some things in my opinion really are borrowed power......
Things like
Obito becoming 10 tails late in his life.
Madara absorbing *even more* of Hashirama's powers.
Orochimaru stealing bodies.
Kabuto modifying his body.
Kisame and Samehada sucking up chakra? kind of stealing chakra but not techniques.
Danzo making Itachi kill the Uchiha and collecting sharingan eyes for himself, also stealing Shisui's eye.

This is what i currently can think of, not much more right now that i consider borrowed power.

1. Obito earned it. He formed akautski and put in the work to catch the bijuus. He fought a hard battle with Konan to win the rinnegan. He had the brains and the strong will to resist Madara and become the juubi jinchuuriki. He earned it! Also, who's to say that Hagoromo got juubi early in life? It doesn't matter when you become a jinchuuriki.

2. Madara earned it by defeating Hashirama.

3. I don't care about this one.
4. So what? Modifying your body is still putting in work and effort. Learning sage mode is too.

5. It's just chakara absorption. It's basically just a jutsu. Same with Madara in your earlier complaint.
6. I don't care about Danzo.
 

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They are considered their own powers but if you want to Nit pick it then sure.

Naruto is Kage level without Kurama

Sasuke is fodder without Itachi's eyes. (blind)

Madara is fodder without izuna's eyes (blind)

Obito is fodder without Senju DNA (dead)

Kabuto is fodder without all his stolen techniques/powers

I want to rep you but apparently I can't.

OT: This guys says it like it is.
 
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