Top 6 most UNORIGINAL shinobi

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Because Madara will stomp 99% of the NV with his power only, while if kakashi didn't have his borrowed ability he would be high jonin level at most.U_U

If we take away all his borrowed power, we get MS Madara. I doubt would even be able to beat Sage Mode Naruto or Nagato for example.
 

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Konan is literally the only shinobi that will ever reach his 5 minute limit.
That's not the only way to beat Obito, u simply need to have sharp enough analytical skills with a high enough level of ability to use them in battle...
Example: Minato vs Obito
 

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"Borrowed" the godly weapons from who knows where, and i'm pretty sure he didn't ask for permission. Kishi needs to explain how and when did he steal those weapons.
 

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If we take away all his borrowed power, we get MS Madara. I doubt would even be able to beat Sage Mode Naruto or Nagato for example.

Don't forget Hashi and Madara went head to head as Equals long before he obtained his brothers eyes and I know you can honestly believe sage mode Naruto = Sage mode Hashi right?
 

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Kamui is Obito's own power, so i don't why he's #1.

If anything Minato should be on that list, all his jutsu come from others except one offensive attack.
 

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Itachi
"Borrowed" the godly weapons from who knows where, and i'm pretty sure he didn't ask for permission. Kishi needs to explain how and when did he steal those weapons.

Yea that'll be cool, but ninja tools and weapons depends on the user like kibas dog or Narutos toad summons... even Minatos FTG kunai, but would you rank someone with a good sword and shield above a hax Edo tensie, Rennegan or Senju DNA user?
 

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Hey all i know is kabuto should be number 1 nothing of his original except his glasses. Matter of fact didnt someone give him those shits
 

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Kamui is Obito's own power, so i don't why he's #1.

If anything Minato should be on that list, all his jutsu come from others except one offensive attack.

He would be but I cut him some slack since he is not from a clan and it takes a lot of skill to use a high level jutsu like that
 

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Hey all i know is kabuto should be number 1 nothing of his original except his glasses. Matter of fact didnt someone give him those shits

You right bro, the only reason I put Obito on top was he couldnt even use Kumui as Jubito (his original jutsu) so it was just all so6p power, that's really debateable tho
 

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By unoriginal I imply than they basically rely totally or at least very heavily on stolen/borrowed powers that belong to another or anothers clan.

1. Obito-
No doubt its incredible he became so powerful, but with out borrowed powers he could have been soloed by at least 5 top tier shinobi if he would have even survived past the boulder
2. Kabuto-
His deadliest weapon is literally using another shinobi. Also, his most dangerous jutsu are stolen jutsu from Oro and his part 1 henchmen.
3. Danzo-
He is hokage level with out these other powers... but he does not show it well using izanagi and the 1st DNA as if its his bread and butter in his previous battles
4. Yamato/Zetsu-
Both are clones of the 1st... and both are low level. Yamato especially, only using a weakened Mokuton for his entire arsenal no doubt.
5. Nagato-
Literally his entire arsenal is composed with the use of only Madara Uchihas Rennegan, but since he possess the Uzamaki chakra to use them I decided not to be as harsh
6. Kakashi-
No doubt he would be powerful with out it but significantly less powerful. Not only does he have even smaller and less chakra reserves than our more powerful clan members... He relys on the sharingan for chidoris line of vision, vision overall, copying and all of his highest level jutsu


Some might be wondering why I excluded Madara... I actually considered him until I also considered the fact that even with only his own ability Hashirama is still the only one who can come to equal grounds or even defeat him.

Thanks, let me know what you think or if you would change anything:cool:

To the bold part: I honestly doubt that. Low kage level, yes, but there's a difference between kage and hokage level. Without his sharingans or Hashi DNA I doubt he could even beat Tsunade, the weakest of the hokages.

But yea it's a decent list I guess. And I agree on not putting Madara on here. after all most of his power is from EMS/Rinnegan which are his own, despite the fact that he needed Hashi DNA to unlock Rinnegan.

Edit: I actually just noticed, but unless you count being the Juubi Jinchuriki as stolen/borrowed powers, then I'd put Kabuto and Danzo above Itachi.
 
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All _top tier_ these days uses borrowed powers.
 

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To the bold part: I honestly doubt that. Low kage level, yes, but there's a difference between kage and hokage level. Without his sharingans or Hashi DNA I doubt he could even beat Tsunade, the weakest of the hokages.

But yea it's a decent list I guess. And I agree on not putting Madara on here. after all most of his power is from EMS/Rinnegan which are his own, despite the fact that he needed Hashi DNA to unlock Rinnegan.
Yea I could agree with that, I was just assuming Danzo was on the same level as Hiruzen seeing that they were rivals
 

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He would be but I cut him some slack since he is not from a clan and it takes a lot of skill to use a high level jutsu like that

Neither is Danzo, yet his fuuton jutsu are high rank jutsu. His own unique summonings and his seals! How can you not include Minato?
 

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Itachi
"Borrowed" the godly weapons from who knows where, and i'm pretty sure he didn't ask for permission. Kishi needs to explain how and when did he steal those weapons.

An endearing conjecture; how do you know somebody definitely had it before him? Haha, look at this Minato fan-boy.

1. Itachi is the only person to have shown the exploding bunshin
2. He created a myriad of genjutsu
3. He is the first to encompass crows/animals as mediums to exercise genjutsu
4. He is the first person to create a genjutsu that reverses the effect of the original genjutsu
5. He is the only person to have created a fuinjutsu that activates upon eye contact
6. He is also the only person to have created a fuinjutsu that he can activate by some pre-determined outcome.

Let's examine Minato:

1. Copied the Rasengan's mechanisms from the Biju
2. Copied FTG from Tobirama
3. Copied virtually all of his sealing techniques from the Uzumaki (this is self-evident, if one considers that Uzumaki specialises in sealing, and Kushina asserted she taught him some techniques, and she herself was able to use fuinjutsu)
4. Itachi is the first person able to summon crows (the Aoba guy only uses them in his techniques, and does not have a contract) whereas Minato took a contract that already existed
5. More than likely stole food cart destroyer technique from Jiraiya.

When you look at things objectively, it is interesting what reality reveals to you, is it not?​
 

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Yea that'll be cool, but ninja tools and weapons depends on the user like kibas dog or Narutos toad summons... even Minatos FTG kunai, but would you rank someone with a good sword and shield above a hax Edo tensie, Rennegan or Senju DNA user?

Itachi didn't borrow or bought the weapons. They have supernatural powers you can't really compare itachi's weapons with a sword or a kunai. Those weapons have powers that are not part of itachi's natural awakening. That is why i consider those borrowed powers rather than inherited powers from lineage or training.
 

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Neither is Danzo, yet his fuuton jutsu are high rank jutsu. His own unique summonings and his seals! How can you not include Minato?

It take a lot to use FTG... but not to spam izanagi like that dude, that's a pretty low class type of way to fight. Not to mention he was loaded with Senju DNA
 

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An endearing conjecture; how do you know somebody definitely had it before him? Haha, look at this Minato fan-boy.

1. Itachi is the only person to have shown the exploding bunshin
2. He created a myriad of genjutsu
3. He is the first to encompass crows/animals as mediums to exercise genjutsu
4. He is the first person to create a genjutsu that reverses the effect of the original genjutsu
5. He is the only person to have created a fuinjutsu that activates upon eye contact
6. He is also the only person to have created a fuinjutsu that he can activate by some pre-determined outcome.

Let's examine Minato:

1. Copied the Rasengan's mechanisms from the Biju
2. Copied FTG from Tobirama
3. Copied virtually all of his sealing techniques from the Uzumaki (this is self-evident, if one considers that Uzumaki specialises in sealing, and Kushina asserted she taught him some techniques, and she herself was able to use fuinjutsu).
4. Itachi is the first person able to summon crows (the Aoba guy only uses them in his techniques, and does not have a contract) whereas Minato took a contract that already existed
5. More than likely stole food cart destroyer technique from Jiraiya.

When you look at things objectively, it is interesting what reality reveals to you, is it not?​

Oh my GOD, i am not bashing Itachi for God's sake. Learn to ****ing read correctly and then make your illogical assumptions. You clearly like to troll. And for the last ****ing time, just because i have the sig and avatar of a certain character does not mean i fanboy over that character.
 

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Itachi didn't borrow or bought the weapons. They have supernatural powers you can't really compare itachi's weapons with a sword or a kunai. Those weapons have powers that are not part of itachi's natural awakening. That is why i consider those borrowed powers rather than inherited powers from lineage or training.
I see what your trying to say. Even so, they are all still weapons so... I guess that just makes them pretty good weapons. Its a pretty blunt description of them.
 
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