[Establishing why] MS Sasuke > Tobirama.

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When applied it is made of chakra. But that is the only time it would emit chakra other than when it is used. Otherwise the amount of chakra needed for that seal would be paramount, and they would both have Tailed Beast level chakra pools.

It's made out of Chakura, meaning that the Chakura is always present. It doesn't go anywhere because then the marking would disappear and it's whole shape is Chakura. It only shows more 'activity' when Tobirama travels to it.
 

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Who said I was name calling people because they aren't a sasuke fan? Lol

Umm look at the conditions of this thread? Does it state anywhere that Sasuke is in the same state he was in vs the Kages or Naruto and Kakashi? I think not so please lmao.

Nah thats you believing you were proving me wrong XD

He said MS sasuke vs Tobirama, if he wanted a healthy Sasuke, he could have used EMS Sasuke, that's why there are diff forms of Sasuke, hebi taka ms bla bla bla, and MS Sasuke was sick and coughing out blood and shit. Plz don't try to be smart with me
 

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Who said I was name calling people because they aren't a sasuke fan? Lol

Umm look at the conditions of this thread? Does it state anywhere that Sasuke is in the same state he was in vs the Kages or Naruto and Kakashi? I think not so please lmao.

Nah thats you believing you were proving me wrong XD

He said MS sasuke vs Tobirama, if he wanted a healthy Sasuke, he could have used EMS Sasuke, that's why there are diff forms of Sasuke, hebi taka ms bla bla bla, and MS Sasuke was sick and coughing out blood and shit. Plz don't try to be smart with me

and LMFAO you never said anything about the conditions of the thread you just asked ''when was sasuke ever sick'', trying to imply that I made that up
 

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He said MS sasuke vs Tobirama, if he wanted a healthy Sasuke, he could have used EMS Sasuke, that's why there are diff forms of Sasuke, hebi taka ms bla bla bla, and MS Sasuke was sick and coughing out blood and shit. Plz don't try to be smart with me

Sasuke was never sick lol unless I missed something? I'm pretty sure it was because he used his MS too much from constant battles with Bee, Ay, Gaara, Mei, Danzo, and Naruto/Kakashi. None of that matters because this is a fresh ms sasuke and I'm just saying whats right I'm not trying to be smart. Unless AC states otherwise you can't say crap because you're not the one who made this battle scenario.
and LMFAO you never said anything about the conditions of the thread you just asked ''when was sasuke ever sick'', trying to imply that I made that up
It doesn't matter either way because Sasuke was never sick unless you can show me a scan that said so.
 
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Man you've overdone it. W/O having some place marked in advance Tobirama gets owned by ama or enton arrow.
 

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Sasuke was never sick lol unless I missed something? I'm pretty sure it was because he used his MS too much from constant battles with Bee, Ay, Gaara, Mei, Danzo, and Naruto/Kakashi. None of that matters because this is a fresh ms sasuke and I'm just saying whats right I'm not trying to be smart. Unless AC states otherwise you can't say crap because you're not the one who made this battle scenario.

It doesn't matter either way because Sasuke was never sick unless you can show me a scan that said so.


yes because spitting out blood from your mouth, complaining of aches on every bone on your body are signs of being healthy, plz you know what I was trying to say/imply when I said 'sick'. STOP REACHING
 

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yes because spitting out blood from your mouth, complaining of aches on every bone on your body are signs of being healthy, plz you know what I was trying to say/imply when I said 'sick'. STOP REACHING
*sigh* This is why I usually refrain from posting in versus threads because of morons like you.
Lol @bold not even close.. no where did you even make it seem to imply that's what you meant.
It's called overusing MS because it causes strain on your body when you use it too much.. it has nothing to with being healthy. Anyways please tell me where you're going with this though because it doesn't matter at all considering this is MS Sasuke starting out fresh.
 

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You're right once again Akatsuki
 

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*sigh* This is why I usually refrain from posting in versus threads because of morons like you.
Lol @bold not even close.. no where did you even make it seem to imply that's what you meant.
It's called overusing MS because it causes strain on your body when you use it too much.. it has nothing to with being healthy. Anyways please tell me where you're going with this though because it doesn't matter at all considering this is MS Sasuke starting out fresh.

negrepping me???.. may the hurt be ever in your butt

stay mad
 

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Anything above V2 has Yata Mirror. If Itachi used anything above V2, Kirin would have been repelled and it wasn't.​
Yata Mirror doesn't repel anything, it nullifies any elemental based ninjutsu.
 

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Have yet to read a good counter, AC wins in the name of Lord Sasuke.

His only chance in harming Sasuke is that overrated edo explosion but V3 or V4 tanks that comfortably.
 

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Yata Mirror doesn't repel anything, it nullifies any elemental based ninjutsu.

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No tobirama fan was able to counter this thread..good job AC, as always U_U Sasuke solos
 

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I went over the manga page and apparently it does so, although it doesn't really matter considering Kirin came from the sky. Itachi couldn't have used his shield to repel it.
 

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I went over the manga page and apparently it does so, although it doesn't really matter considering Kirin came from the sky. Itachi couldn't have used his shield to repel it.

Yata Mirror increases and makes an orb around the Susano'o when a larger scale attack is thrown at it.

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So yes, it would have repelled an attack coming from the sky.​
 

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Counter the Suiton with a simple Katon

Except Suiton beats Katon. Don't bring physics into this, in Naruto water >>> fire.

And lets not forget, that much like he did against Deidara's explosives, Sasuke can easily counter this by simply evading it with his Shunshin.

Tobirama is faster than Sasuke, so good luck with that.

Sasuke's Raiton would travel throught Tobirama's Suiton and ultimately paralyze Tobirama.

No, the lightning would electrocute the water, not Tobirama.

Lightning does not beat water, it simply electrocutes it. Nowhere does a raiton pierce through a suiton and hit the user.

Sasuke will use his Shunshin in order to evade it.

Countered above.

First, to erase the danger of Tobirama ever getting near to him, Sasuke can summon both Aoda and his Taka to the battlefield

Never saw someone with 2 contracts at the same time. Sasuke probably ditched the Hawk one.

B] With the formulas (markings) gone, Tobirama will be unable to teleport to anywhere now.

He can mark his edo or use clones.

Or he can simply mark more places.

C] Genjutsu is one of the ways Sasuke could use to bypass the Hiraishin. Considering that Tobirama already looked into the eyes of an Uchiha that is supposed to be superior to Sasuke multiple times, I see no reason as to why he won't look into Sasuke's eyes.

Genjutsu is not instant. The second Sasuke starts gathering chakra in his eye, Tobirama can either FTG away, close his eyes or simply bunshin feint it.

Sasuke's Susano'O was teleported with him. [1] Why? Because the user and it's Susano'O are connected and that's exactly why the Susano'O got teleported along with Sasuke as well. Hiraishin teleports things that are connected to it's are connected to it's target.

Susanoo wasn't teleported, it vanished.

It has been shown before that Susanoo and its user can be separated.

Not that it matters because even if Tobirama teleports his Susano'O, a new one can be created.

Not only does that take time, it also strains Sasuke.

His so called great reaction feat of him reacting to Obito's attack doesn't mean absolutely anything since that Obito wasn't actually intelligent and as fast as the real Obito.

Bullshit.

You don't have to be Einstein to run fast. Tobirama reacted to the fastest character in the manga, his reflexes are top tier.

considering that even an ill Itachi managed to create an Amaterasu that was a lot bigger than a human sized target.

Seeing as how Sasuke ran out of chakra much faster than Itachi, that doesn't mean much. Itachi has hilariously superior chakra control. ( that, or he has more chakra ).
 

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Except Suiton beats Katon. Don't bring physics into this, in Naruto water >>> fire.

Yes. Keep being in denial.


Tobirama is faster than Sasuke, so good luck with that.

Without Hiraishin? Not a chance.

No, the lightning would electrocute the water, not Tobirama.

Lightning does not beat water, it simply electrocutes it. Nowhere does a raiton pierce through a suiton and hit the user.

And is Tobirama's water connected to his mouths? Yes. He gets electrocuted.



Countered above.

.........................No.

Never saw someone with 2 contracts at the same time. Sasuke probably ditched the Hawk one.

Assumption.

He can mark his edo or use clones.

Or he can simply mark more places.

And Sasuke gets rid of them. Not that Tobirama spams these markings, seeing as how he only has about two or three of them on the battlefield at a time.

Genjutsu is not instant. The second Sasuke starts gathering chakra in his eye, Tobirama can either FTG away, close his eyes or simply bunshin feint it.

No. You cannot 'sense' Genjutsu. Shī is a sensor and didn't sense shit and not to mention that you cannot sense if you are fighting at the same time as stated by both Shī and Jiraiya.

#Inb4: 'Tobirama is a better sensor.' No. Doesn't change the fact that sensors can't sense Genjutsu.

Susanoo wasn't teleported, it vanished.

It has been shown before that Susanoo and its user can be separated.

Sasuke was teleported and Susano'O wasn't left behind. Also, yes, you can separate it and the user forcefully.

Not only does that take time, it also strains Sasuke.

No. Not really. That's just like activating a normal Susano'O in the first place so it doesn't strain him nor does it take time.

Bullshit.

You don't have to be Einstein to run fast. Tobirama reacted to the fastest character in the manga, his reflexes are top tier.

Sasuke and Hiruzen reacted as well.

Seeing as how Sasuke ran out of chakra much faster than Itachi, that doesn't mean much. Itachi has hilariously superior chakra control. ( that, or he has more chakra ).

Yet Sasuke, on his first try, created an Amaterasu that is a lot bigger than Itachi's largest Amaterasu.​
 

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Gojukibakufuda dwarfed gamakichi and juubi spawns who again were as big as gamakichi and aoda, Even if it can't break susanoo it will send sasuke flying up in the sky along with his susanoo like those 2-3 juubi spawns
Tobirama can use Goshon mawashi to switch a clone with Edo after the Edo is ready to explode, Susanoo can also be separated as Minato separated Naruto and sasuke who were being held down by obito

Tobirama can choose to conserve his chakra by letting the Edo explode over and over again, sasuke doesn't have sealing abilities
 
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