so Tsunade is the strongest of the gokage

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do people not realize her physical strength also one shots if hit

"Whats the point of having all this power if you can't even hit your opponent?"

-Goku

Tsunade is physically stronger than Deidara. Does that stop him from using all his long range abilities on him and blow her to annihilation?

Tsunade is physically stronger than Obito. Does that stop him from using Kamui and rendering Tsunade's attacks utterly useless?
 

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I can talk big because i re-read her fight against kabuto and she did not get soloed.

Minato is a totally different case to ay, he's not being fast. He's teleporting. If you think Kishi would have one shot fights between his hyped ninja well you can if you want to.

If you think about it, we could theorize many 'one shot' scenarios for quite a few fights in this manga. They hardly do turn out that way in reality from the author.


Tsunade is physically very strong, but i am sorry physical strength doesn't determine winners here Lol
 

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Tsunade is physically very strong, but i am sorry physical strength doesn't determine winners here Lol

That's the only reply? I guess i got my point across. I know especially because we weren't even talking about physical strength. Talk about topic change.

Everyone saying Tsunade can't hit target has no explicit proof. As Tsunade has hit characters points ahead of her in speed.

She's only ever fought twice and both times shes hit. Your assumptions for your fanfic vs fights will not sway things in your favour. FTG is the only exception because you never know where said person is coming from.
 

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That's the only reply? I guess i got my point across. I know especially because we weren't even talking about physical strength. Talk about topic change.

Everyone saying Tsunade can't hit target has no explicit proof. As Tsunade has hit characters points ahead of her in speed.

She's only ever fought twice and both times shes hit. Your assumptions for your fanfic vs fights will not sway things in your favour. FTG is the only exception because you never know where said person is coming from.

She is not fast enough to beat any kages, Cause they all have long range attacks, sorry but tsunade has none. On top of that she was only shown fighting a edo careless madara in susanoo.. Even the final attacks were done by the other 4 kages before madara did his work.. She is good for support and healing but not for offence which makes keeps her at the bottom of the kage rankings.. in bold she never has never will, Hitting a still object is quite easy other than a moving one...Even black zetsu is better than her..manga fact
 
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Everyone saying Tsunade can't hit target has no explicit proof. As Tsunade has hit characters points ahead of her in speed.

She's only ever fought twice and both times shes hit.

Kabuto - Sneak attack. It works, but its not a testament to Tsunade out-speeding Kabuto.

Orochimaru - Using his tongue to pull him in.

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"Whats the point of having all this power if you can't even hit your opponent?"

-Goku

Tsunade is physically stronger than Deidara. Does that stop him from using all his long range abilities on him and blow her to annihilation?

Tsunade is physically stronger than Obito. Does that stop him from using Kamui and rendering Tsunade's attacks utterly useless?
1 you act as if she's ridiculously slow
2 if you would have read my post good i said its the same for all one shot techniques you have to land them which you have to factor in skill and other things so anyone who thinls any of the gokage can just effortlessly beat another is just stupid
 

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She is not fast enough to beat any kages, Cause they all have long range attacks, sorry but tsunade has none. On top of that she was only shown fighting a edo careless madara in susanoo.. Even the final attacks were done by the other 4 kages before madara did his work.. She is good for support and healing but not for offence which makes keeps her at the bottom of the kage rankings.. in bold she never has never will, Hitting a still object is quite easy other than a moving one...Even black zetsu is better than her..

We don't know if she is capable of sneaking in hits on them. We never will because they will never legitimately fight each other. At the end of the day it's all assumption thats all im trying to say.

She was careless because she damn well knew she wasn't dying from any hits she was taking. Ay was telling her she was being sloppy or careless, because she was just taking hits like a G. He was concerned she would exhaust herself.

If Tsunade can tank said attack, she is capable of getting close to the opponent IMO. Ay doesn't have long ranged techniques.

What you last did there is what im talking about. Just because her specialty is leaning more toward medical ninjutsu noone appriciates all of a sudden she is weakest. Offensively she may be down at the bottom (i still believe she can beat a few kage in general)

As for her medical skills and all assessed she is up there in kage ranking in terms of ability.

Kabuto - Sneak attack. It works, but its not a testament to Tsunade out-speeding Kabuto.

Orochimaru - Using his tongue to pull him in.

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Sneak attack or not. Tsunade was on the ground also torn muscle tissues to slow her down and nerf her strength and she managed to get up and around kabuto to hit him with BPD. Not slow.

Besides my arguement isn't mainly about her speed but the fact she does indeed manage to hit faster people.

And the toungue thing, that just goes to show you how Tsunade is a thinker, and brains often outsides people. Look at shikamaru.

This is why i am saying noone really knows how she can manage to get around situations. She has experience. Sometimes it makes he difference.
 
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We don't know if she is capable of sneaking in hits on them. We never will because they will never legitimately fight each other. At the end of the day it's all assumption thats all im trying to say.

She was careless because she damn well knew she wasn't dying from any hits she was taking. Ay was telling her she was being sloppy or careless, because she was just taking hits like a G. He was concerned she would exhaust herself.

If Tsunade can tank said attack, she is capable of getting close to the opponent IMO. Ay doesn't have long ranged techniques.

What you last did there is what im talking about. Just because her specialty is leaning more toward medical ninjutsu noone appriciates all of a sudden she is weakest. Offensively she may be down at the bottom (i still believe she can beat a few kage in general)

As for her medical skills and all assessed she is up there in kage ranking in terms of ability.



Sneak attack or not. Tsunade was on the ground and she managed to get up and around kabuto to hit him with BPD. Not slow.

Besides my arguement isn't mainly about her speed but the fact she does indeed manage to hit faster people.

And the toungue thing, that just goes to show you how Tsunade is a thinker, and brains often outsides people. Look at shikamaru.

This is why i am saying noone really knows how she can manage to get around situations. She has experience. Sometimes it makes he difference.

the thing we don't know because it was never shown. And since it was never proven in manga you loose, if proven i will take all my words back..........But until its proven in the current arc or the upcoming arc, you have to say it yourself now Tsunade is the weakest kage in history. How about that..
 

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the thing we don't know because it was never shown. And since it was never proven in manga you loose, if proven i will take all my words back..........But until its proven in the current arc or the upcoming arc, you have to say it yourself now Tsunade is the weakest kage in history. How about that..

I have proven she can sneak attack people.

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^ here she played possum

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Here she blitzed.

The manga has proven.

Also i've already stated i know some kage she can beat. Not talking about the gokage specifically the entire list of kage. But I won't get into that because it's only going to prolong.
 

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Tsunade loses to any of the Gokage bar Mei. She has no chance on the others what so ever.
 

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1 That was madara's slow ass clone in susanoo.
2. Tsunade was able to hit kabuto cause he let his guard down...

But what about after that.. She got soloed
 

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1 That was madara's slow ass clone in susanoo.
2. Tsunade was able to hit kabuto cause he let his guard down...

But what about after that.. She got soloed

Oh so all of a sudden its a slow ass madara clone. That was the real him that part happeened after his wood clone was gone and he stabbed her in the stomach.

People who get snuck up on tend to have been tricked/let their guard down. Don't you think? It's still a blitz feat because she should not have been able to move and she was able to get behind of him within seconds of him fixing his glasses. Well I gave you your scans.
 

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I should make a thread listing 30.. no 40 characters faster than Tsunade.
 

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Oh so all of a sudden its a slow ass madara clone. That was the real him that part happeened after his wood clone was gone and he stabbed her in the stomach.

People who get snuck up on tend to have been tricked/let their guard down. Don't you think? It's still a blitz feat because she should not have been able to move and she was able to get behind of him within seconds of him fixing his glasses. Well I gave you your scans.

Kabuto and Madara was confident in their ability that they can beat tsunade, where as tsunade was looking of an oppotunity to strike becuase she is weak and can't go head on to fight them...

I should make a thread listing 30.. no 40 characters faster than Tsunade.


Trust me if you start doing that you just see that number rise..
 

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Kabuto and Madara was confident in their ability that they can beat tsunade, where as tsunade was looking of an oppotunity to strike becuase she is weak and can't go head on to fight them...

Kabuto was confident because he knew if things got bad he could resort to blood phobia. Which he did. Do you really think if Tsunade wasn't afraid of blood at the point where he cut himself she wouldnt have just pile drived him?

Madara was confident, and then he was shocked when he got caught by surprise because he thought she was dead.

It's not about being weak, when you are a particular type of ninja, you have to know how you have a chance dealing with certain ninja. With Madara after she thought they sealed him n he did that, she played dead for a bit so she could try to counter attack him. That's a smart approach.
 

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You're attempting to be humorous, correct?
She's the weakest of the current Kage, generally speaking. The only Kage I see Tsunade defeating in a no restrictions fight would be Hiruzen, excluding his hyped up abilities. Sabaku no Gaara, whom I believe is the strongest of the Gokage, defeats her with low-medium difficulty, depending on the location of the battlefield. The same could and will be said for Onoki. Gaara and Onoki possess the ability to ascend to heights that Tsunade cannot reach, and both characters wield Jutsu that are too overwhelming and powerful for a dull, close ranged combatant like Tsunade to handle properly. Her death against Gaara and Onoki is inevitable, and is not debatable. While I do believe Ay and Mei to be above the Slug Princess, argumentation could be made for Tsunade's possible win.​
 
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Kabuto was confident because he knew if things got bad he could resort to blood phobia. Which he did. Do you really think if Tsunade wasn't afraid of blood at the point where he cut himself she wouldnt have just pile drived him?

Madara was confident, and then he was shocked when he got caught by surprise because he thought she was dead.

It's not about being weak, when you are a particular type of ninja, you have to know how you have a chance dealing with certain ninja. With Madara after she thought they sealed him n he did that, she played dead for a bit so she could try to counter attack him. That's a smart approach.
- Got stabbed instead..Only this time Dan's ghost saved her from the slaughter

Blood phobia or not, that is a weakness, weakness in front your opponent my friend is fatal...
 

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- Got stabbed instead..Only this time Dan's ghost saved her from the slaughter

Blood phobia or not, that is a weakness, weakness in front your opponent my friend is fatal...

Getting stabbed was something she did not expect. but the sneak attack was a result of that. Understand?

The second time obviously she would have died. Byakugou ran out she couldnt move.

Exactly, proving my point that blood phobia was kabuto's confidence in taking her down. It is a fact that without it things would have been different. Am i wrong?
 

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First of all wasn't talking to you.

Second, he said that after he said weak people are ugly and weak senju are even more ugly. ALL of the gokage for fodderized.

Tsunade saved them they should bow to her.
deus ex katsuyu saved them the gokage should be dead.
 
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