Chakra control: Explaining why Sakura was/is superior in this aspect.

[Xerotes]

Her chakra control is very good but comparing it to Naruto's control is kind of unfair.

 

[Lana Del Taka]

I read everything. And i agreeU_U

 

[~Uzumaki~]

Nice thread Chatte. I know that it could be easily Naruto has less chakra control since he needs clones for Rasenshuriken in base mode and extra hands in BM and KM.

However, considering that even the Fourth Hokage who invented Rasengan and can use it easily with one hand in an instant, and Kakashi who created the Chidori and is heavily implied to have great chakra control(as he is able to use genjutsu), couldn't achieve Rasenshuriken at all, it could be argued that the clone method of chakra control(which only Naruto has mastered) is the greatest method of chakra control in the entire Naruto verse, matched/surpassed only by the chakra control offered by a Bijuu chakra cloak. Also the Bijuu chakra cloak distribution which Naruto achieved was lauded by Kyubi, stating that it surpassed Minato's level of skill which chakra, which was so great that he could literally separate the chakra of the Nine Tails into yin and yang, seal his and Kushina's chakra into Naruto in a manner quite similar to Orochimaru sealing himself into Cursed Seals(as they could both see and hear what their container could), this tells us that the distribution of chakra to the whole alliance is a probably the greatest display of chakra skill in the Naruto world.


We know that Kishi has been trying to glorify Naruto's skill in chakra for a good while now. Naruto created Rasenshuriken which neither Kakashi(a skilled ninja who has chakra control great enough to allow him use genjutsu), Minato(whose skill with chakra was hailed by the Nine Tails himself), and Jiraiya(a skilled shinobi in his own right, who mastered the Rasengan, a jutsu Tsunade didn't even believe someone else could master apart from the Fourth and Jiraiya) could master

Naruto mastered a perfect Sage Mode, a feat only achieved by Hashirama. Even Kabuto(a medical nin who even Tsunade hailed as extremely skilled and also caught the eye of Orochimaru) couldn't achieve a perfect Sage Mode. Hashirama, the other perfect Sage, is a medic and so he has incredible chakra control, but not only this, he's the greatest medic in the history of the world. Naruto achieved a feat equaled only by the greatest medic in the world!

With these facts in mind, we have to concede that Naruto has greater chakra control than anyone.

 

[Joshutsu]

Good job Chatte, as usual. I just got home, I tried to wait around for it before I had to leave but I missed it. Now reading it I see the responses are pretty much what I expected from certain people. I guess manga facts do go out of the window or are 'out of context' when it comes to Sakura.

Surprisingly they are still arguing Naruto to be better because of having perfect chakra control by their view, but we already have proof Sakura is at the pinnacle. They should in reality be fighting to call them equals on Naruto's case rather than trying to make him superior. And you didn't even touch on the seal Lol imagine.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Ok, apparently the new trend nowadays on NB is undermining every aspect of Sakura as a shinobi. I don't know from where this trend came from, but anyway. I am not here to undermine any character and fight the logic the manga has imposed, I am here to show why the manga stays true to its statement.

Many have argued that nowadays, Naruto has better chakra control than Sakura. What is fair to say is that over the years, yes, Naruto has greatly improved and it's starting to get the hang of it, finally, but to say that he is better than Sakura at chakra control, I find it to be something flawed. At most, what you can say is that it's on par, but not better, definitely.

Why is that?! I will explain it from the scratch, so maybe some people will finally understand.
From what I personally browsed on the threads, it left me with the impression that people actually don't get what chakra control, per se, is...

This is why, first, we will start by scratch and construct the argument/explanation as we go. More or less. Anyway, you get the idea. So, let's start, shall we?

When Kakashi begins the training, as he explains Team 7 about chakra, he gets to the control part. He has rather a simple explanation regarding chakra control

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"To bring out the proper amount to the proper area", he says.

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"The amount of chakra needed to climb a tree is small, but it must be exact", he adds afterwards.

You are probably wondering by now why I am bolding certain parts of the phrase. You'll understand afterwards. Just bear a little with me.

Afterwards, he explains that depending on the jutsu, controlling the chakra properly can be very difficult and that a ninja will usually be gathering chakra during battle while constantly moving as well that, those type of situations make controlling chakra even more difficult.

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Hope until here we are clear. Now you might wonder, what makes Sakura superior to her two team-mates? Kakashi has stated multiple times that Sakura's control is above of that Sasuke's and Naruto. Even from the first training they got.

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So what makes her superior? Well, as explained, when moving for a ninja it becomes more difficult to control chakra. Why is that so, what is the very first most important thing when it comes to controlling one's chakra? Well, that is, the focus and timing!

Back in the Tree walking training, Naruto asks Sakura for some tips on how to do it properly since she was the one who did it flawlessly in the very first training. Sakura answers him with a rather simple explanation:

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Chakra uses spiritual energy which we all know is the mind, in more simple words.

So for a ninja to be able to fight and to control his chakra, he has to be focused at any time.

Also, besides focusing, the other component of one's chakra control is the timing.

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She has displayed every since her younger ages, that in that aspect, she is also above her team-mates, in her battle with Ino [and not only], where while battling her, Sakura was still able to keep her focus and control her chakra properly.

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Now, as we all know, Sakura later becomes a medical ninja. Tsunad explains later to Shikamaru the conditions one needs to meet to become a medical ninja.

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As we can see here, as a medical ninja, one has to have every aspect of their chakra refined to perfection, otherwise you simply cannot become a med nin.

Now, people have argued that because Naruto has mastered Sage Mode and he has handled the SA chakra, from there, we can say he is superior to Sakura in chakra control.

First of all, referring to Sage Mode argument. Besides the fact that one needs a great amount of chakra to be able to get Sage Mode, one of the requirements for such thing was as we all know, the balance.

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What does this balance meant? That he needed to have equal ratios of each of the 3 components in order to be able to master the Sage Mode and as we all know, it took Naruto quite an amount of time before he was able to do so.
Shortly put, for Naruto to be able to master the Sage Mode quicker, he would've needed a perfect chakra control, a chakra control that Sakura possesses. He would've needed to bring out the proper amount of each of the 3 components and those 3 components to be the exact same amount in order to master Sage Mode quicker than he did.

Now, going to the SA transfer argument. As Kurama explains, Naruto was able to transform the chakra to meet each person's type when he transmitted it to them. Now, this has to do with chakra transformation, not chakra control. Props to him, nevertheless, that definitely used a considerable amount of chakra control, however, there was no proper amount determined so that we can say he properly controlled his chakra to meet the requirement, we didn't had a proper area in which he needed to focus his chakra into so that we can say once again, that he controlled his chakra up to the most perfection, also, we didn't had a timing.
All the establishments or requirements, depends how you want to say from which we can conclude one's chakra control were missing.

Also, by this argument, we forget that in 635, Sakura healed an entire Alliance from injuries. Not only she linked as well a considerable amount of chakra to Katsuyu, she also healed the severe wounds of the Alliance guys.

Medical Ninjutsu is a ninjutsu that deals with manipulation of one's own or anothers' body. As we all know, the body is made of cells, cells that contain a type of chakra, from which, each shinobi has a particular type of chakra. Now, in order to do the healing, the caster of the technique has to meet each person's type in order to heal them. As in, in order to get his body to its initial condition, the medical nin needs to meet the requirements of that person's body to get them back.

What Sakura's remote healing and Naruto's handed chakra in 616/617 have in common, is the fact that both sustain the shinobi, his body, so to speak.

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Kakashi explains here to Shikaku that now he was able to use Kamui multiple times and allowed its scale to be bigger is because of the Kyuubi chakra he received from Naruto. But why is that? Because he no longer got tired, therefore, his body allowed him to use Kamui and not get fatigued. What Naruto did was facilitated the link between Kakashi and Kyuubi, same as Sakura facilitates the link between her and the victim via Katsuyu and transformed the chakra to meet Kakashi's so that he wouldn't get fatigued which allowed him to put more into his Kamuis, same as Sakura transforms her chakra to rejuvenate/heal the others. It's the same thing, only that well... one is more flashy than the other.
And of course, Sakura has her normal human chakra and Kyuubi has its Bijuu chakra. But both instances are the same.
The only difference is that, well, Bijuu chakra is well, stronger than Human chakra in the end.

Also, there are certain differences between Naruto and Sakura when it comes to chakra control. And that lies in the following.
When Naruto left to the island to train, it took him a lot of time until he managed to use the exact ratios Bee asked him to:

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So because Naruto lacks the necessary chakra control, he couldn't do it from the first time, whereas, after Sakura got the seal, she used the Remote Healing Technique from the very first time, like Shizune comments.

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So here it's where the differences between Naruto's chakra control and Sakura's chakra control lie. Yes, Naruto's chakra control greatly improved from how it was when we first met him, however, he doesn't top Sakura's chakra control.

She gathers the proper amount to proper areas, exactly how much is needed and with great timing. And testament to that, as well, it's her fighting style. When she punches the ground, for example, she has to be right on spot on the timing, otherwise, the technique would not work, we wouldn't see things getting smashed around.

And a proofs to that, it's Kakashi's own comment

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So hope I cleared the misconception for everyone, if not, please let me know and I will try to be more precise with my explanations.

PS: I don't think I need to bring Byakugo into discussion anyway...

You're missing a lot of other information. It was stated that Naruto was bad at chakra control in part 1 because he had Kurama

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. Not only that, But Naruto learned to walk on water which is a more advance chakra control than walking on trees because the tree is a solid under you and all you have to do is stick to it so it teaches you how to build up a certain amount of chakra. Walking on water is much harder to do because you have to always expel the appropriate amount of chakra from your feet and must make it match the amount necessary to float. You learn to use a set amount of chakra needed for a jutsu

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Naruto's chakra got imbalanced when Orochimaru place the 5 prong seal (Sp?) on his 8 triagram yet he was able to learn to almost stand on the water which even surprised Ebisu

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. Jiraiya noticed Naruto's chakra being imbalanced the first time Naruto tried to show him how far he was in the water walking training

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, he then ask Naruto to pull out his chakra so he can get a better look at the situation

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and then Jiraiya deduced why Naruto was having trouble controlling his chakra due to Oro's seal creating the imbalancement

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. After that Naruto was immediately able to walk on water, thus learn to use the precise chakra amount he needs to use for a jutsu

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Then Naruto had to learn to use both the tree walking chakra control and the water walking chakra control and combine them just for the first step of learning the Rasengan

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. Jiraiya explanation how the degree of difficulty of learning Rasengan

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. Later we find out by Kakashi that the rasengan was a form of extremely advance spatial recomposition, 1 of 2 chakra control techniques that he'll need to learn the FRS and Naruto had to also learn to use the other chakra control with is Physical recomposition (

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). Even Tsunade asked why Jiraiya was teaching Naruto the Rasengan when only him and Minato can use it

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. Why would Tsunade say that about a chakra control jutsu unless even she can't learn her, she asked why he was teaching Naruto it after all.

Tsunade goes on talking about how an attack like FRS is "an impossibly fine attack that causes damage on a cellular level..."

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and that it uses shape manipulation (that is chakra control, it's spatial recomposition) to make the wind chakra into tiny blades. FRS is all chakra control and of that magnitude that even Tsunade can't heal wounds from it

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. Let me remind you that that was FRS at about 50% completeness as stated by Yamato

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You said transforming chakra wasn't chakra control? That's Physical recomposition which Kakashi explains that he use to make his chakra resembles electricity

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and is what Naruto did to make Kurama's chakra transform/resemble that person's chakra type. You can't even say it's not the same because Kakashi transform his chakra into lightning. Naruto also uses the walking on tree chakra control to build up the chakra into his hand and walking on water chakra control to release that set amount to each person. He does this in mere seconds with such a large chakra amount per person in just the slap of a hand

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Naruto was even able to control the chakra he gave everyone remotely to protect them which took focus and was shown to tire him out as he did so to tank powerful jutsus: Notice Naruto's hands as he focus to control the chakra

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, Naruto did it again to save Sakura and others from Madara's Susanoo throwing attack and Obito's giant ninja weapons which Sakura said doing might harm Naruto

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, We clearly see the toll it took on Naruto

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. Kurama warned Naruto of the Juubi's attack saying it was bad

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which he saw

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. Even Madara thought it was enough to kill them but Naruto protected them all again

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and when Naruto couldn't control the chakra anymore it vanished

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Sakura was praised on her precise chakra control

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You do know that it's her using both the walking on tree and water chakra control for her enhanced strength right? Build up chakra to her fist is the tree walking chakra control while releasing that set amount of chakra is the water walking chakra control. Naruto used both chakra control for the rasengan and Kakashi called it extremely advanced chakra control and that's base rasengan so imagine Oodama rasengan, chou Oodama rasengan, Multi-Shadow clone (which takes control to keep up)+ Rasengan= Rasengan barriage, it's going to be big chakra control to keep the clones up, form all the rasengans and use them. If Naruto is hit hard enough to make he lose focus then his clones poof so he is using chakra control to keep his jutsu active.

You seem to have taken the SM training a bit wrongly. Do you know why you need a large chakra reserve to learn SM? It's not to use SM, it's for learning to use Senjutsu. It's so when you're using the toad oil to absorb natural energy, it doesn't completely flood your body too fast which is what it'll do if you have small chakra reserve. You would need to perfectly match your chakra to the natural energy which is not going to be done on the first attempt by anyone. Sakura was learning the basics of medical jutsu, which she came far in, in 3 months. Using the Yin Seal is still her chakra, it's just a large amount that she's been saving. Natural energy is a whole new energy source that she would just be learning about prior to training. Even Kabuto, a medical ninja said he had to train to gain his SM power and he shown to be a better healer than Sakura when he extended his healing chakra a few feet to heal her which only he has shown to do

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Shizune praised Sakura for her chakra extremely precise chakra control but Tsunade's words about FRS seems more impressive than Shizune's since it's taking chakra control on a cellular level.

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Sakura's strength was always chakra control so she didn't have to be trained on it as much so her level wouldn't have increased by large margins but all of Naruto's training had a form of chakra control in it and he only got better and learn new chakra control techniques. Sakura needed to learn knowledge on poisons, antidotes, medicines, how to fight, evade, summoning jutsu, and learn all aspects on the medical subject and she hasn't been shown to improve any thru out the manga except when she show cased the Yin seal. Naruto's skills have been shown to increase from high chunin in the beginning of Shippuden to high jounin (base) currently. Both FRS and the Yin seal are S rank jutsus, FRS is a attack on cellular level while the Yin seal chakra only stimulates the cells to reproduce faster and allow regeneration but shortens the user's life because theirs a limit to how much a cell can reproduce

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Pa toad said Naruto learned SM much quicker than Jiraiya and even surpassed him

 

[iNotorious]

You act as if Sakura is perfect in chakra control. Yes she can use the yin seal. Yes she was taught to focus chakra into her hands by tsunade. Yes Kakashi praises her for chakra control. But she's not perfect.

A lot of the stuff you bring up is chakra control feats from part 1, of walking on trees. This honestly does show chakra control ability, but Naruto practice and has surpasssed Sakura in chakra control through his training. Also notice how Kakashi says she is better at chakra control "right now". That doesn't mean it's not able to change, it isn't set in stone.

You point out that picture of Tsunade saying you need to have every aspect of chakra control refined to perfection, yet somehow Sakura can't do a direct chakra transfer? Tsunade can. Naruto can. Her knowing the yin seal and not direct chakra transfer (when she studied under Tsunade for the whole of the timeskip) really shows how hard direct chakra transfer must be. And Naruto gave that chakra out to all the ninjas in the alliance. Naruto's also able to transfer chakra unconciously through a link (as shown when he does so to shikamaru). This is the same sort of thing Sakura does with katsuyu, except naruto can do both the remote and direct version. Since she can't do this technique that tsunade and Naruto can, it shows that Sakura isn't as skilled as Naruto at learning techniques, even ones requiring precise chakra control. It also shows her chakra control isn't perfect, like Tsunade said. Also who is to say transforming chakra isn't chakra control? If you can't transform your chakra to meet someone elses needs, you obviously can't control it well enough to do so.

Naruto also learned the direct chakra transfer version on the battlefield when he needed to, when Sakura needed to save Shikamaru she wasn't able to learn it like naruto was. Really shows the skill Naruto has really.

You also bring up the TBB. Naruto is the first person ever to hold a TBB in the palm of his hand, and is essentially developing the technique. He clearly says he learns from experience, which is one reason why he masters is it on the battelfield (another reason is because the kyuubi becomes friendly, and doesn't restrict him at all anymore). After the kyuubi becomes friendly and stops disturbing his chakra (however large or small that disturbance may be) it definitely allows him for better chakra control.

I would also like to bring up the rasengan. Tsunade believed that only Minato and Jaraiya could even learn the rasengan. That's how hard the technique is to learn. Yet Naruto was able to perform rasengan in about 1 months time of training. Jaraiya also makes a specific remark to how Naruto burned his hand by concentrating so much chakra into one spot (which happens to be about the size of the yin seal, and shows precise chakra control). This shows that if Naruto wanted to learn the yin seal, and Tsunade was willing to teach him, he probably could. It also shows the chakra control required to perfect rasengan since Tsunade thought only two people could possibly learn it. Kakashi also later states that Rasengan is the pinnacle of spatial chakra control. Naruto mastered the most powerful spatial chakra control technique, while a genin (damn what a chakra control beast).

Later Naruto adds Nature transformation to the rasengan. Which is another form of chakra control. Yes he does it a quicker way by using the large amount of chakra he has, but Kakashi clearly states that Naruto was progressing faster than he thought possible. Naruto gets so good at using his chakra nature of wind he is able to cut a waterfall.

Lets also bring sage mode into account here. In order to make chakra your physical and spiritual energy into chakra. In order to make chakra as a sage your balance between Natural, spiritual, and physical energy must be almost perfect. Naruto however perfects the sagemode technique, unlike jaraiya. Naruto masters sage mode in a matter of days (time isn't exactly clear, but it is rather short). Then he learned to apply sage mode chakra to his techniques which is a form of chakra control, later on in the war he found out he could apply it to nearly all of his techniques. Learning sagemode and perfecting it in itself shows a clear control over chakra, yes chakra. Not just natural energy, but chakra. I say chakra because Sage mode chakra is special, another person can not just be handed sage mode chakra, as they will turn into a frog (shown when pein turns into a stone frog). This shows you must be controlling natural chakra near perfectly in order to perform sage mode (and Naruto learned it so fast too)

Naruto also quite litterally controls his chakra in bm or any of his other kyuubi chakra modes to a great extente. He controls it so precisely he is able to stack the tip of a pyramid on top of the tip of another pyramid, which is pretty damned impressive. Yes sakura doesn't have the ability to do this because she doesn't have as much chakra as Naruto, but I doubt she would learn as quickly as Naruto did. Naruto is shown to be able to be able to learn extremely advanced techniques really quickly, while we haven't seen Sakura display the same feat.

Naruto is better than Sakura in chakra control now, he has been growing over the years and has grown and surpassed her from when Kakashi first said she was the best.

Regardless, the more I think about it The juubito is still the best person at chakra controlling we have seen. Juubito solos.

Edit: If you need pics for anything regarding my post, just ask I will gladly provide.

Thus Adding Senjutsu chakra to the TBB, that was amazing! That chakra control!

 

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Nice thread Chatte. I know that it could be easily Naruto has less chakra control since he needs clones for Rasenshuriken in base mode and extra hands in BM and KM.

However, considering that even the Fourth Hokage who invented Rasengan and can use it easily with one hand in an instant, and Kakashi who created the Chidori and is heavily implied to have great chakra control(as he is able to use genjutsu), couldn't achieve Rasenshuriken at all, it could be argued that the clone method of chakra control(which only Naruto has mastered) is the greatest method of chakra control in the entire Naruto verse, matched/surpassed only by the chakra control offered by a Bijuu chakra cloak. Also the Bijuu chakra cloak distribution which Naruto achieved was lauded by Kyubi, stating that it surpassed Minato's level of skill which chakra, which was so great that he could literally separate the chakra of the Nine Tails into yin and yang, seal his and Kushina's chakra into Naruto in a manner quite similar to Orochimaru sealing himself into Cursed Seals(as they could both see and hear what their container could), this tells us that the distribution of chakra to the whole alliance is a probably the greatest display of chakra skill in the Naruto world.


We know that Kishi has been trying to glorify Naruto's skill in chakra for a good while now. Naruto created Rasenshuriken which neither Kakashi(a skilled ninja who has chakra control great enough to allow him use genjutsu), Minato(whose skill with chakra was hailed by the Nine Tails himself), and Jiraiya(a skilled shinobi in his own right, who mastered the Rasengan, a jutsu Tsunade didn't even believe someone else could master apart from the Fourth and Jiraiya) could master

Naruto mastered a perfect Sage Mode, a feat only achieved by Hashirama. Even Kabuto(a medical nin who even Tsunade hailed as extremely skilled and also caught the eye of Orochimaru) couldn't achieve a perfect Sage Mode. Hashirama, the other perfect Sage, is a medic and so he has incredible chakra control, but not only this, he's the greatest medic in the history of the world. Naruto achieved a feat equaled only by the greatest medic in the world!

With these facts in mind, we have to concede that Naruto has greater chakra control than anyone.

what you have to also realise is that the extra hands method isnt real hands naruto is actually manipulating the chakra shroud surrounding him with ease,(forming sixth rasengans at once or twin rasenshurikens without any clones.

 

[xxSAGExx]

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I was actually going to make explanation thread about same thing, but as my exams are going on, I postponed that idea, but glad to know that you did it.
I am going to add just few points here, that I feel you missed out:
1. Difference between chakra moulding(transformation) and chakra control.
Many people think that Naruto's chakra control is better than Sakura's and they present this scan,

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But this isn't chakra control, but basically it is 'chakra molding', or making your chakra compatible with everyone.
On top of that, this scan doesn't say that his chakra control is better than Sakura's. I hope Kakashi's explanation regarding chakra control cleared it out.
2. The most basic thing that many people tend to forget is Sakura's chakra feats during shinobi world war. Sakura basically has less amount of chakra reserves as compared to Naruto/Sasuke, but we can't simply deny that she did a lot of things throughout the war despite of low chakra reserves.(I am talking about her chakra feats before Byakuguo). So that itself proves that she lost very few amount of chakra, and hence has high chakra control, because unlike Naruto she can't afford to lose chakra.

I'm pretty sure you're wrong on 1, because he isn't molding the chakra which is forming the chakra from your spiritual energy and physical energy to make chakra. the differences is that Nauro didn't do this because Kurama is the one who does that since it's his chakra, he gives Naruto Chakra and Naruto changes it to suit each different person. Kurama said he modified his chakra and gave it to Naruto

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and Ce, a sensor type thought it was Kurama's and then said it was Naruto's. Kurama made his chakra into Naruto's who in turn made it into each shinobi's

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Not only does Naruto have to build up the chakra (the tree climbing chakra control) and release the set amount (water walking chakra control) to each person but he does this so fast with a large amount in just the slap of a hand. Changing your chakra to another type can be compared to physical recomposition/nature transformation, except that he's transforming his chakra to meet each person's type

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instead of changing his chakra properties to an element.

Plus before the Yin seal, Shizune was doing more than Sakura, she was the leader of the whole medical team and was the main one being protected from white zetsu while she works (I know Sakura was too but they plain out said don't let anything happen to Shizune) so I would have to say she did more for the Allaince until the Yin seal.

Nah it isn't like that, read Kakashi's statement from OP, he says that using precise amount of chakra at exact time, he never says making your chakra compatible with another. Medical ninjutsu=Combination of both of this.
Naruto surpassed Sakura in chakra molding, not in other aspect.

1. If you are talking about cloak of other guys, it is basically resonating chakra, not 'control' and about his own even Bee can control it.
2. I was talking about Sakura chakra control feats,
1)She was there in the battlefield from two days. In the first she was part of Kakashi's squad so she must have taken part in the battle.
2)We have seen her healing shinobis which indicates that she healed many shinobis, again indication of good chakra control.
3) When she went on the battlefield, she again took part in healing.
4) She was healing Naruto just when Minato arrived.
5) And during this entire thing she never used Byakugou once, or lost her focus, again good chakra control.

She didn't include what Ebisu said, the tree walking training more or less teaches you how to build a certain amount of chakra while the water walking training is a much harder chakra control which teach you how to use the exact amount of chakra needed for the jutsu

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Naruto uses both these chakra control to use the needed chakra since part 1.

Naruto controlled the chakra he gave to the alliance to protect them 3 times as i show in my other post on page 4. Well that same chakra control feat is the same for all the ninjas who knows how to walk on trees and water because it teaches them how to build and use the exact amount your jutsu needs. No one in the alliance where fighting or healing 24-7 during the war while Naruto went from intense training to fighting and only rested when Sakura healed him both times. Kakashi who has low stamina being able to use as much chakra as he did when he first met up with Naruto shows he had to have rested cause he shouldn't be capable of what he did it he was at even half his power.

Shizune was head of the medical team and was shown constantly healing even when they weren't sure of there were white zetsus. Also Naruto did give her as well as everyone chakra so she could have been low on chakra for all we know. Not trying to hate on her, it's just that she hasn't shown to have improve from the beginning of shippuden to now except using the Yin seal. Cause Sakura, like the other medical ninjas do have breaks while more ninjas are transported from the field to their camp and the ninjas can't transport them in the mist of a fight due to the shorting of their numbers.

You do realize she was forming her seal while proforming complez medical ninjutsu and while battle, that right there only boost her feats. Medical ninjutsu itself is hard to achoeve especially the stiff she have showb

I read many people say we don't know how much of a factor having large chakra has on a person when Kakashi said it makes chakra control hard (before Naruto learned to control his chakra precisely) so I can say the same for the yin seal. We don't know if it affected her at all, for all we know the Yin seal, which is a seal like Naruto's 8 triagram seal or Sasuke's CM, takes chakra from Sakura and Tsunade a little bit at a time without them needing to do as much work since it takes a while to fill even with Tsunade's kage level chakra. You assume it's all her while Kurama said he modified his chakra into Naruto's and Naruto change them to other's type on his own.

Kishi is juts bad at female development so hasn't developed Sakura as much as he has to male characters. Kishi even developed Shikamaru more than Sakura back when they were chasing for Sasuke in part 1 to when Asuma died and to when his own dad died.

 

[Keimil]

Impressive, just impressive!

I read the whole thread and the 4 pages so far, and i have to say you are very convincing.

Congratulations! Epic Thread!

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[Booker]

Impressive, just impressive!

I read the whole thread and the 4 pages so far, and i have to say you are very convincing.

Congratulations! Epic Thread!

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Get your filthy hands off of Haunter, he would not approve of this thread.

 

[MantraAsura]

Remember that time Kiba was considered faster than Naruto in Part I? He still is, clearly. Naruto hasn't shown the feats to match him yet! Everyone in the Chunin exams hyped him up to have better speed, and Naruto's feats don't prove anything!


Good thread as always.

Kiba is still faster than Naruto?

 

[FearxDeath]

I believe there was a different Sakura fanboy that tried to attack this topic from the Byakugou angle and it was severly disapointing. But I like this thread, informative and speaks to some of Sakura's strenghts which is Chakra Control. Very well done.

On an off-note didnt your avatar use to be Hinata? Maybe im wrong x__x, eitherway nice thread

 

[FemmeFatale]

Lmao people forget that Naruto body is made to weild powerful chakra, so sage mode and Bujji thingy is most likely a byproduct of being uzumaki,

 

[Booker]

Lmao people forget that Naruto body is made to weild powerful chakra, so sage mode and Bujji thingy is most likely a byproduct of being uzumaki,

bujji thingy

bujji thingy

BUJJI THINGY

 

[iNotorious]

bujji thingy

bujji thingy

BUJJI THINGY

Kill it before it lay eggs!

 

[xxSAGExx]

Lmao people forget that Naruto body is made to weild powerful chakra, so sage mode and Bujji thingy is most likely a byproduct of being uzumaki,

Having a body that can hold power chakra does not mean you can control that chakra, Kakashi said having Kurama at the root of Naruto's stamina make controlling chakra more difficult for him so don't even try to find an excuse for it. Bijuu=harder to control chakra. SM has nothing to do with the body, it's all chakra control, if you can't balance your chakra then you can die via stone toad. His body has nothing to do with learning to use it.

 

[FemmeFatale]

Having a body that can hold power chakra does not mean you can control that chakra, Kakashi said having Kurama at the root of Naruto's stamina make controlling chakra more difficult for him so don't even try to find an excuse for it. Bijuu=harder to control chakra. SM has nothing to do with the body, it's all chakra control, if you can't balance your chakra then you can die via stone toad. His body has nothing to do with learning to use it.

Exactly having power doesn't mean you can control, we know Naruto has a strong body's but when was it stated that in sage mode he using his chakra control perfectly like Sakura. Not to mention he probably waste that chakra as he always did. And the whole mini rasengan things Sakura does the same when he punches, she focuses massive chakra into her tiny fist then releases it all at once, and make things go boom, far mor effective than those rasengan jutsu

 

[iNotorious]

Exactly having power doesn't mean you can control, we know Naruto has a strong body's but when was it stated that in sage mode he using his chakra control perfectly like Sakura. Not to mention he probably waste that chakra as he always did. And the whole mini rasengan things Sakura does the same when he punches, she focuses massive chakra into her tiny fist then releases it all at once, and make things go boom, far mor effective than those rasengan jutsu

wasted it because kurama was constantly messing with his chakra.

 

[HyuugaHeir]

Ok, apparently the new trend nowadays on NB is undermining every aspect of Sakura as a shinobi. I don't know from where this trend came from, but anyway. I am not here to undermine any character and fight the logic the manga has imposed, I am here to show why the manga stays true to its statement.

Many have argued that nowadays, Naruto has better chakra control than Sakura. What is fair to say is that over the years, yes, Naruto has greatly improved and it's starting to get the hang of it, finally, but to say that he is better than Sakura at chakra control, I find it to be something flawed. At most, what you can say is that it's on par, but not better, definitely.

Why is that?! I will explain it from the scratch, so maybe some people will finally understand.
From what I personally browsed on the threads, it left me with the impression that people actually don't get what chakra control, per se, is...

This is why, first, we will start by scratch and construct the argument/explanation as we go. More or less. Anyway, you get the idea. So, let's start, shall we?

When Kakashi begins the training, as he explains Team 7 about chakra, he gets to the control part. He has rather a simple explanation regarding chakra control

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"To bring out the proper amount to the proper area", he says.

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"The amount of chakra needed to climb a tree is small, but it must be exact", he adds afterwards.

You are probably wondering by now why I am bolding certain parts of the phrase. You'll understand afterwards. Just bear a little with me.

Afterwards, he explains that depending on the jutsu, controlling the chakra properly can be very difficult and that a ninja will usually be gathering chakra during battle while constantly moving as well that, those type of situations make controlling chakra even more difficult.

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Hope until here we are clear. Now you might wonder, what makes Sakura superior to her two team-mates? Kakashi has stated multiple times that Sakura's control is above of that Sasuke's and Naruto. Even from the first training they got.

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So what makes her superior? Well, as explained, when moving for a ninja it becomes more difficult to control chakra. Why is that so, what is the very first most important thing when it comes to controlling one's chakra? Well, that is, the focus and timing!

Back in the Tree walking training, Naruto asks Sakura for some tips on how to do it properly since she was the one who did it flawlessly in the very first training. Sakura answers him with a rather simple explanation:

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Chakra uses spiritual energy which we all know is the mind, in more simple words.

So for a ninja to be able to fight and to control his chakra, he has to be focused at any time.

Also, besides focusing, the other component of one's chakra control is the timing.

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She has displayed every since her younger ages, that in that aspect, she is also above her team-mates, in her battle with Ino [and not only], where while battling her, Sakura was still able to keep her focus and control her chakra properly.

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Now, as we all know, Sakura later becomes a medical ninja. Tsunad explains later to Shikamaru the conditions one needs to meet to become a medical ninja.

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As we can see here, as a medical ninja, one has to have every aspect of their chakra refined to perfection, otherwise you simply cannot become a med nin.

Now, people have argued that because Naruto has mastered Sage Mode and he has handled the SA chakra, from there, we can say he is superior to Sakura in chakra control.

First of all, referring to Sage Mode argument. Besides the fact that one needs a great amount of chakra to be able to get Sage Mode, one of the requirements for such thing was as we all know, the balance.

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What does this balance meant? That he needed to have equal ratios of each of the 3 components in order to be able to master the Sage Mode and as we all know, it took Naruto quite an amount of time before he was able to do so.
Shortly put, for Naruto to be able to master the Sage Mode quicker, he would've needed a perfect chakra control, a chakra control that Sakura possesses. He would've needed to bring out the proper amount of each of the 3 components and those 3 components to be the exact same amount in order to master Sage Mode quicker than he did.

Now, going to the SA transfer argument. As Kurama explains, Naruto was able to transform the chakra to meet each person's type when he transmitted it to them. Now, this has to do with chakra transformation, not chakra control. Props to him, nevertheless, that definitely used a considerable amount of chakra control, however, there was no proper amount determined so that we can say he properly controlled his chakra to meet the requirement, we didn't had a proper area in which he needed to focus his chakra into so that we can say once again, that he controlled his chakra up to the most perfection, also, we didn't had a timing.
All the establishments or requirements, depends how you want to say from which we can conclude one's chakra control were missing.

Also, by this argument, we forget that in 635, Sakura healed an entire Alliance from injuries. Not only she linked as well a considerable amount of chakra to Katsuyu, she also healed the severe wounds of the Alliance guys.

Medical Ninjutsu is a ninjutsu that deals with manipulation of one's own or anothers' body. As we all know, the body is made of cells, cells that contain a type of chakra, from which, each shinobi has a particular type of chakra. Now, in order to do the healing, the caster of the technique has to meet each person's type in order to heal them. As in, in order to get his body to its initial condition, the medical nin needs to meet the requirements of that person's body to get them back.

What Sakura's remote healing and Naruto's handed chakra in 616/617 have in common, is the fact that both sustain the shinobi, his body, so to speak.

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Kakashi explains here to Shikaku that now he was able to use Kamui multiple times and allowed its scale to be bigger is because of the Kyuubi chakra he received from Naruto. But why is that? Because he no longer got tired, therefore, his body allowed him to use Kamui and not get fatigued. What Naruto did was facilitated the link between Kakashi and Kyuubi, same as Sakura facilitates the link between her and the victim via Katsuyu and transformed the chakra to meet Kakashi's so that he wouldn't get fatigued which allowed him to put more into his Kamuis, same as Sakura transforms her chakra to rejuvenate/heal the others. It's the same thing, only that well... one is more flashy than the other.
And of course, Sakura has her normal human chakra and Kyuubi has its Bijuu chakra. But both instances are the same.
The only difference is that, well, Bijuu chakra is well, stronger than Human chakra in the end.

Also, there are certain differences between Naruto and Sakura when it comes to chakra control. And that lies in the following.
When Naruto left to the island to train, it took him a lot of time until he managed to use the exact ratios Bee asked him to:

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So because Naruto lacks the necessary chakra control, he couldn't do it from the first time, whereas, after Sakura got the seal, she used the Remote Healing Technique from the very first time, like Shizune comments.

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So here it's where the differences between Naruto's chakra control and Sakura's chakra control lie. Yes, Naruto's chakra control greatly improved from how it was when we first met him, however, he doesn't top Sakura's chakra control.

She gathers the proper amount to proper areas, exactly how much is needed and with great timing. And testament to that, as well, it's her fighting style. When she punches the ground, for example, she has to be right on spot on the timing, otherwise, the technique would not work, we wouldn't see things getting smashed around.

And a proofs to that, it's Kakashi's own comment

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So hope I cleared the misconception for everyone, if not, please let me know and I will try to be more precise with my explanations.

PS: I don't think I need to bring Byakugo into discussion anyway...

nicest post about Sakura-chan that i have read in a while

imo, Sakura's chakra control and Naruto's are on par but in different level.
What Im tryin to say is that Sakura's control is for a medic nin,a very exceptional one...
And Naruto's control is in a perfectjinchuuriki level.

Hers vs His,
Id still say Naruto's superior.
Sakura just had a headstart.
Reason: The spiritual energy and shebeing a genjutsu type must have given her talent.

 

[take it easy]

sakura not have any gejutsu feat