Chakra control: Explaining why Sakura was/is superior in this aspect.
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The chakra is Sakura's, and as far as we know Katsuyu can't heal on his own, then Sakura or Tsunade wouldn't need the seal to heal. Katsuyu said herself that she gets her power from the seal. They obviously convert the sealed chakra into medical chakra
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I was actually going to make explanation thread about same thing, but as my exams are going on, I postponed that idea, but glad to know that you did it.
I am going to add just few points here, that I feel you missed out:
1. Difference between chakra moulding(transformation) and chakra control.
Many people think that Naruto's chakra control is better than Sakura's and they present this scan,
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On top of that, this scan doesn't say that his chakra control is better than Sakura's. I hope Kakashi's explanation regarding chakra control cleared it out.
2. The most basic thing that many people tend to forget is Sakura's chakra feats during shinobi world war. Sakura basically has less amount of chakra reserves as compared to Naruto/Sasuke, but we can't simply deny that she did a lot of things throughout the war despite of low chakra reserves.(I am talking about her chakra feats before Byakuguo). So that itself proves that she lost very few amount of chakra, and hence has high chakra control, because unlike Naruto she can't afford to lose chakra.
wrong dude the general term for moulding and manipulation(transformation/jutsu) is chakra control.You must be registered for see images
I was actually going to make explanation thread about same thing, but as my exams are going on, I postponed that idea, but glad to know that you did it.
I am going to add just few points here, that I feel you missed out:
1. Difference between chakra moulding(transformation) and chakra control.
Many people think that Naruto's chakra control is better than Sakura's and they present this scan,
But this isn't chakra control, but basically it is 'chakra molding', or making your chakra compatible with everyone.You must be registered for see images
On top of that, this scan doesn't say that his chakra control is better than Sakura's. I hope Kakashi's explanation regarding chakra control cleared it out.
2. The most basic thing that many people tend to forget is Sakura's chakra feats during shinobi world war. Sakura basically has less amount of chakra reserves as compared to Naruto/Sasuke, but we can't simply deny that she did a lot of things throughout the war despite of low chakra reserves.(I am talking about her chakra feats before Byakuguo). So that itself proves that she lost very few amount of chakra, and hence has high chakra control, because unlike Naruto she can't afford to lose chakra.
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1.but naruto can control cloak after this. 2. please sakuras feats before byakugo.You must be registered for see images
I was actually going to make explanation thread about same thing, but as my exams are going on, I postponed that idea, but glad to know that you did it.
I am going to add just few points here, that I feel you missed out:
1. Difference between chakra moulding(transformation) and chakra control.
Many people think that Naruto's chakra control is better than Sakura's and they present this scan,
But this isn't chakra control, but basically it is 'chakra molding', or making your chakra compatible with everyone.You must be registered for see images
On top of that, this scan doesn't say that his chakra control is better than Sakura's. I hope Kakashi's explanation regarding chakra control cleared it out.
2. The most basic thing that many people tend to forget is Sakura's chakra feats during shinobi world war. Sakura basically has less amount of chakra reserves as compared to Naruto/Sasuke, but we can't simply deny that she did a lot of things throughout the war despite of low chakra reserves.(I am talking about her chakra feats before Byakuguo). So that itself proves that she lost very few amount of chakra, and hence has high chakra control, because unlike Naruto she can't afford to lose chakra.
well i`ll have to agree sakura and naruto are on par.i dont see sakura being better but neither do i see naruto being better,
they`re just masters of their individually different styles and techniques of chakra control.sakura couldnt handle naruto`s chakra giveaways but neither could naruto handle byakugo.
it`s like saying two people have the same hand muscle control,but one is proficient at a tenis racket handling and the other with a golf club =D
they`re just masters of their individually different styles and techniques of chakra control.sakura couldnt handle naruto`s chakra giveaways but neither could naruto handle byakugo.
it`s like saying two people have the same hand muscle control,but one is proficient at a tenis racket handling and the other with a golf club =D
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Nah it isn't like that, read Kakashi's statement from OP, he says that using precise amount of chakra at exact time, he never says making your chakra compatible with another. Medical ninjutsu=Combination of both of this.
Naruto surpassed Sakura in chakra molding, not in other aspect.
1. If you are talking about cloak of other guys, it is basically resonating chakra, not 'control' and about his own even Bee can control it.
2. I was talking about Sakura chakra control feats,
1)She was there in the battlefield from two days. In the first she was part of Kakashi's squad so she must have taken part in the battle.
2)We have seen her healing shinobis which indicates that she healed many shinobis, again indication of good chakra control.
3) When she went on the battlefield, she again took part in healing.
4) She was healing Naruto just when Minato arrived.
5) And during this entire thing she never used Byakugou once, or lost her focus, again good chakra control.
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You do realize she was forming her seal while proforming complez medical ninjutsu and while battle, that right there only boost her feats. Medical ninjutsu itself is hard to achoeve especially the stiff she have showb
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I believe in chapter 651 he made 9 huge nature chakra rasengans without any hands at the same time, though I guess forming them inside the kyuubi's tails may be a bit different, but the point still stands! He didn't use any extra limbs or clones to make the 9 rasengan in the tails, they just appeared. GG. Also when he is using those chakra arms, don't forget those arms are made of chakra that he is controlling. It is also good to mention that it is obviously much easier to perform by diverting the focus between himself and clones. If he has a way of doing it easier for him, why not do it? Also by using clones it likely makes it even more powerful since each piece only has to focus on one piece of the puzzle. One on power, the other on rotation. while the last focuses on stabalizing and forming the sphere.
You also neglect to mention something that Jaraiya, kakashi, and the fourth simply were unable to do, which was add their chakra nature to rasengan. This actually shows that Naruto has a stronger control over chakra then them, regardless if he needs clones to do it.
Edit: Also I believe I forgot to mention that sometimes he does just do it without clones.
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i'm not referring to chakra transfer and even that is a part of it since its also a tech for medical ninja. every ninja moulds chakra and every ninja manipulating the chakra thats how the create techs and jutsus the generally term for this is chakra control.
they arent different things. read the whole thing if you wish
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What you are talking about is moulding one own's chakra, which each and every shinobi does just like you said. I was talking about Naruto's specific ability where he was able to form link with other guys by making his chakra compatible to the Shinobi Alliance. Many people get confuse with that 'chakra moulding' ability of Naruto(sorry, I wasn't good with my words, as I didn't find any better word to explain that phenomena), with chakra control, which is basically wrong.
Medical ninjutsu=this ability of forming link with injured shinobi+chakra control(i.e. maintaining one own's chakra). Each and every shinobi's chakra is different, and that's why one can't simply give other guy his own chakra. He has to convert his chakra and change it, so that it will be compatible with other guy and on top of that he has to maintain perfect proportion of it(the process that medical-nin carries out).:yeah:
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Naruto has surpassed her in chakra control.
There is no debating this.
The sheer volume and the fact that he can pass it on with a simple tap while tuning it to there needs is unmatched.
Besides that sakura doesn't even know the final stage of the strength of a hundred seal nor does she know creatoin rebirth so she has a long way to go
There is no debating this.
The sheer volume and the fact that he can pass it on with a simple tap while tuning it to there needs is unmatched.
Besides that sakura doesn't even know the final stage of the strength of a hundred seal nor does she know creatoin rebirth so she has a long way to go
Quick question, who looks like they're exerting more effort here?
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Naruto is doing a more difficult task with no effort.
Sakura is doing a less difficult task with heavy effort.
This is non-debatable.
Also INB4 "Sakura waz doin more worz!!1!":
Still effortless for him, and he's moving among the entire alliance.
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(Bottom Left)
Naruto is doing a more difficult task with no effort.
Sakura is doing a less difficult task with heavy effort.
This is non-debatable.
Also INB4 "Sakura waz doin more worz!!1!":
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Still effortless for him, and he's moving among the entire alliance.
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In their base mode, Sasuke and Sakura were borderline equal. "Hand seals=chakra control", at least in the databook and both had a four, with Naruto far behind.
Personally now though:
Naruto bsm>Byakugyou Sakura=>Naruto bm>Ems Sasuke>Sm Naruto>Base Sasuke>Base Sakura>Base Naruto
But the fact that naruto balanced Sm and Bm together puts him at the top, feats wise anyway. In chakra control at least.
Personally now though:
Naruto bsm>Byakugyou Sakura=>Naruto bm>Ems Sasuke>Sm Naruto>Base Sasuke>Base Sakura>Base Naruto
But the fact that naruto balanced Sm and Bm together puts him at the top, feats wise anyway. In chakra control at least.
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Why Sakura had better chakra control than naruto? Until Naruto learned SM and became friends with Kurama.......
1. The First scan shows us because of Kurama Naruto couldn't control his chakra precisely
2. Naruto understands the concept of chakra control precisely. Even Ibisu was impressed.....
3. Because of Oro's Seal naruto coudn't do it properly...........
4. To master Sennin Mode you need abosolute presice chakra control. A Little less it won't work, a little more you will turn into a frog
5. Once he got hold of KCM he took his Chakra control to a newer level. Proof.. 2 handed multiple Rasengans, 1 finger RasenShuriken.
6. When he became friend with kurama his chakra control reached the Ultimate level........BSM and giving chakra by just a tap is the poof of it. Even Someone like sasuke saw everything with his sharingan and envyed naruto's progress...
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1. The First scan shows us because of Kurama Naruto couldn't control his chakra precisely
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2. Naruto understands the concept of chakra control precisely. Even Ibisu was impressed.....
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3. Because of Oro's Seal naruto coudn't do it properly...........
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4. To master Sennin Mode you need abosolute presice chakra control. A Little less it won't work, a little more you will turn into a frog
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5. Once he got hold of KCM he took his Chakra control to a newer level. Proof.. 2 handed multiple Rasengans, 1 finger RasenShuriken.
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6. When he became friend with kurama his chakra control reached the Ultimate level........BSM and giving chakra by just a tap is the poof of it. Even Someone like sasuke saw everything with his sharingan and envyed naruto's progress...
Thanks for Reading
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Remember that time Kiba was considered faster than Naruto in Part I? He still is, clearly. Naruto hasn't shown the feats to match him yet! Everyone in the Chunin exams hyped him up to have better speed, and Naruto's feats don't prove anything!
Good thread as always.
Good thread as always.