How strong was Itachi?

ReverseZero12

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Edo-Itachi sealed Nagato on his own accord.


#Inb4 Chibaku-Tensei argument: Itachi had already a method to stop Chibaku-Tensei however had to relay the strategy [destroy the core] to Naruto and Bee. On his own he could have mauled through the small layers of debris with the Kanzentai Susano'o and destroy the core using Susanoo's physical prowess----or----Pierce through the core with Totsuka.

Nagato is stronger than Itachi but within the Edo-Tensei the scenario is highly questionable as brute force isn't the sole determinant of any battle.

So you're saying that itachi could have broken chibaku tensei by himself?

Itachi doesn't have the raw power to cut through chibaku tensei and he does not have anything in his arsenal that could take it down. He might have had the strategy to take CT down but he couldn't have taken down CT by himself, not by a long shot. That's why he needed the help of naruto and bee. Thus, he relayed the strategy to them as it was only possible to take down CT with the combined efforts of all three of them with their attacks.

Any form of battle between itachi and nagato (whether if both are alive or edo), nagato will always be victorious. Even though Edo nagato and edo itachi are closer in strength compared to "Alive itachi and alive nagato", it still wouldn't make a huge difference. Edo itachi didn't really do anything against nagato other than attack the guy from behind to ruin his mobility. Also, other than the fact that he figured out a way to break CT, he couldn't have done it on his own without the help of Naruto and Bee as stated before. At the end of the day, Naruto and bee needed itachi's help and itachi needed naruto and bee's help. So basically, Vice versa, it's the same thing.
 
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You're an idiot

Itachi didn't need help to totsukya Nagato

You have no proof, your post is just sh*t

Help with ct (debatable), but totsukya? GTFO kid

Itachi was being controlled, yet he broke out of Edo tensei and beat Nagato

Your just an idiot that can't use sense. Simple

He killed Nagato twice without naruto and bee doing anything

After seeing my list of top 10 people that can beat itachi and you dare call me his fanboy?


Just shut up and get out, I don't argue with stupid :|

Fine with me, you have piss poor logic anyway.

Itachi needed naruto and bee's help and vice versa. What did itachi do with totsuka? Totsuka isn't even hard to dodge lmfao, if he had his senses, he would have dodged it easily. Please stop.

Yeah he broke out of edo tensei because of KA. So what? It's not like KA was his power or apart of his arsenal.

If you think itachi > nagato based on that battle, you are an idiot. It's honestly pretty obvious that Nagato could take down itachi (And this applies to every form of nagato vs every form of itachi). Cased closed.
 
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if you take away KA from itachi then you might as well take away the Rinnegan from Nagato ... borrowed powers
 

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Fine with me, you have piss poor logic anyway.

Itachi needed naruto and bee's help and vice versa. What did itachi do with totsuka? Totsuka isn't even hard to dodge lmfao, if he had his senses, he would have dodged it easily. Please stop.

Yeah he broke out of edo tensei because of KA. So what? It's not like KA was his power or apart of his arsenal.

If you think itachi > nagato based on that battle, you are an idiot. It's honestly pretty obvious that Nagato could take down itachi (And this applies to every form of nagato vs every form of itachi). Cased closed.

Only an idiot would think a loser who couldn't dodge explosive tags, would have the feat to dodge totsukya.

KA would on shot nagato

All your fanboyism has no manga proof....gtfo

Pathetic idoit
 
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Its been a while that I've enjoyed a thread. Glad to see you're back, nice thread have a + rep!

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He didn't go all out on Nagato and Oro. He knew exactly how to counter Nagato, and knew exactly how to stop Nagatos final attack. He even did it with ease.... I'd say he's probably as strong as Tobirama.

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This is where he'd fall imho. Healthy or not I believe he could still best a vast majority of the characters in Naruto. He's among the only true prodigy category of mine. Madara, Hashirama, and Itachi all three "defied" Edo Tensei in a way. No one else did it, that separates him from most imho.
 

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Fine with me, you have piss poor logic anyway.

Itachi needed naruto and bee's help and vice versa. What did itachi do with totsuka? Totsuka isn't even hard to dodge lmfao, if he had his senses, he would have dodged it easily. Please stop.

Yeah he broke out of edo tensei because of KA. So what? It's not like KA was his power or apart of his arsenal.

If you think itachi > nagato based on that battle, you are an idiot. It's honestly pretty obvious that Nagato could take down itachi (And this applies to every form of nagato vs every form of itachi). Cased closed.
Don't know why you're arguing with the guy, it's pretty pointless. BD > Yagama and you could say was on of the more powerful attacks that caused CT to have been destroyed. Guy can't debate to save his life :eww:


OT: Itachi is a powerful shinobi, too bad we won't to see his capabilities
 

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I love threads like these... No matter what you argue the outcome was Itachi totsuka sealing Nagato. Everything else is based on your own speculation..
 

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he was so strong that kishi had to make him sick..because else he would have been literally unstoppable. we really pretty much never have seen him going all out, yet he dominated pretty much all his fight and was barely even touched^^

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Prime Juubi Jin Sage of six paths > Old Juubi Jin Sage of six paths > Pre Juubi Jin Sage of six paths/Post Juubi Jin Sage of six paths > Juubi Jin Obito > Revived Madara > Prime Hashirama > Prime Hiruzen= BSM Naruto >= EMS Sasuke >=Prime Itachi > Nagato > DSM Kabuto > Minato > Sick Itachi > Tobirama/Muu or Killer Bee

that is correct order of the most powerfull characters including their hypes..., I excluded Princess kaguya as she is featless...
 

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EMS Sasuke >=Prime Itachi > Nagato > DSM Kabuto > Minato > Sick Itachi > Tobirama/Muu or Killer Bee

that is correct order of the most powerfull characters including their hypes..., I excluded Princess kaguya as she is featless...

lol, Sasuke and Nagato are above Itachi by a wide margin.
 

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lol, Sasuke and Nagato are above Itachi by a wide margin.

Well truth... but by Prime Itachi I meant Hypothetical Itachi with no sickness from the begining... also Itachi's going all out... I believe he could put great battle against Sasuke or Nagato.

But Sick Itachi is far behind them.. I agree ;)
 

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Well truth... but by Prime Itachi I meant Hypothetical Itachi with no sickness from the begining... also Itachi's going all out... I believe he could put great battle against Sasuke or Nagato.

But Sick Itachi is far behind them.. I agree ;)

A healthy Itachi is never going to be on the level of a Perfect Susanoo Sasuke when the latter also has EMS and Itachi has MS. Same with Nagato, making him healthy only gets rid of his illness but his power won't jump up several tiers and put him on par with these two.
 

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Could've killed Chakra mode Naruto if he was his enemy
 

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I love threads like these... No matter what you argue the outcome was Itachi totsuka sealing Nagato. Everything else is based on your own speculation..

1. What does that have to do with the thread?
2. How is that relevant to Itachi surpassing Nagato?
3. Notice how is was a 3v1
4. BD > Yagamasta

Your logic is invalid :|
 

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1. What does that have to do with the thread?
2. How is that relevant to Itachi surpassing Nagato?
3. Notice how is was a 3v1
4. BD > Yagamasta

Your logic is invalid :|

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OT: What made Itachi super powerful wasn't just his Jutsu but it was his abilities, intelligence, analystical skills, and he could read minds.
 

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OT: What made Itachi super powerful wasn't just his Jutsu but it was his abilities, intelligence, analystical skills, and he could read minds.

Guess you don't see the two jins standing beside him that helped him escape CT

And once again, your fanboyish logic makes zero sense. But there's no point when everyone in the base can't convince you, why waste my time U_U
 
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