I agree. Speed was the biggest factor in this entire and largely sparse argumentation. Sasuke has proven to be the first to detect Obito's movements. Naruto in BM would not pose any threat whatsoever. His BM Avatar countering Amaterasu or its variants is pure and sub-par fanfiction and made up at most. Amaterasu has proven to eat through all forms of Chakra - examples would be techniques of Sound 5 used by Kabuto which were cut through using Enton Blade, Itachi's usage of Amaterasu to eat through Sasuke's Katon, and finally the Bijuu Chakra affected and damaged in regards to Hachibi incident. All these incidents prove that Amaterasu affects Natural Energy, Regular Chakra, and Bijuu Chakra equally. To deny this is absolute rubbish.
Then we have the issue of FRS. A single Enton sword would suffice against all FRS. They would be turned into Amaterasu flames and thrown back on Naruto. Any clone would instantly vanish. Bijuu Damas having some kind of speed is another ridiculous argument. Through out the manga, BDs have been shown to have a large window of charge time, enough to effectively counter or evade them. I would post a few examples -
- When Naruto turned into a Mini Four-Tailed Kurama, he condensed the chakra from its tails to create a Flash Dama. It was launched but Orochimaru had enough time to erect three Roshomon gates to reduce the damage.
- Similarly, Deva landed a pillar on Naruto in Six-Tailed Mini-Kurama form when he was still charging the attack to deflect it in his favour.
- When Madara used BD and PS Sword Combination against Hashirama, he evaded it on foot and erected Roshomon gates to change the trajectory. Even in this case, the attack was already launched.
- Minato summoned Bunta on Kurama's head whilst it was still charging and teleported it to a safe location. Similarly, he was able to use S/T Barrier against it very easily when it requires four handseals.
- When Obito used Intangibility against Naruto's BD, he used the terms 'Too Slow'. He had no difficulty in reacting to it whatsoever.
These are just to name a few. To even suggest that Sasuke would use Enton sword - that was shown to extend to a very large size - to disrupt it is fanboyism at its finest. Also, if Hashirama can cover a large distance on foot and change its trajectory as well, who is to say Sasuke cannot simply jump with his Complete Susano'o or use Hawk summon to evade it altogether, if he miraculously doesn't disrupt it?
Then there is the issue of BD itself. It isn't obliterating PS. Nothing in the manga suggests it or implies it. Sasuke's PS should be able to withstand quite a few and Enton Coating should reduce the damage even further as Amaterasu is canoncially shown to eat through Chakra. With all this use of Enton, Kirin is prepared easily and the hot-spot storm can be extended as the fight would drag on, leaving any clones defeated before they can even attempt anything.
I would suggest the exact opposite - does Naruto have enough in his arsenal to truly defeat Sasuke?
I agree, BM avatar has no chance of dodging a Amateratsu. Although Naruto can always shed away the chakra affected.
@Bold May I ask how they can even be thrown back at Naruto? I see no way he can throw it back Enton control or not. Moreover, regular Amateratsu sword wouldn't stop a FRS's momentum, or at least nothing implies it can. Clones won't just vanish..
-Four Tailed Kyuubi=/=9 tailed Kyuubi.
-Multiple TBB is quite fast, and it was fast enough to fire enough TBB's to show them in a single panel. Nothing has shown it took a decently long prep time.
-Madara's TBB was being used via Kurama, without a jinchuriki controlling it. We have already seen the difference between a Biju being controlled by a jin and a Biju without a Jinchuriki. Furthermore, you can see its great speed when it crosses an entire shore and the speed is so great, that the water is still being splashed even after its reached the other shore[
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-Again, that was a genjutsu controlled Kurama. Don't compare Obito to Sasuke. Sasuke has to evade the TBB and the blast, while Obito simply has to see it and go intangible, no reason why it wouldn't be too slow in regards to him going intangible.
-Nothing has shown that BM Naruto requires a lot of prep time. Canonically, Naruto's BM avatar creates a TBB faster than any other Biju by a long run. [
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] Naruto was capable of creating a TBB and fire it by the time the five Bijuu's had already prepared their TBB's. You can clearly see he started after they were done, since Gai was asking what Naruto would do, implying Naruto hadn't began creating a TBB.
How can Amateratsu disrupt TBB? Never heard of such nonsense, let alone the fact that he would have to swing his Amateratsu sword at the TBB which is about to explode in his face. he isn't doing it from this great distance you speak of, last I recall it only laster one usage and wasn't as big as you claim it to be [
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Yea, Sasuke can probably deal with one TBB, but how will he deal with five? I don't see Sasuke adding five TBB's coming at him, possibly each being 10 cm further in a horizontal or vertical axis, as to cover a larger distance. I see no way in which Sasuke could doge such an attack, nor will his beloved Amateratsu have any affect in such a situation.
Multiple TBB's should take out PS. Moreover, nothing has shown EMS users can withhold PS for extended periods of time without putting strain on their body, otherwise Madara would've been using it the majority of the time against Hashi, instead of his EMS Final Susano. A TBB would damage it as well, meaning Sasuke will expend chakra to repair it. If this were to end up a fight in which whoever endures more wins, then Naruto would clearly be the victor. Enton coating isn't reducing any damage in such a short period of time. Krin won't be prepped considering Multiple TBB's would have already ended this, but for hypothetical reasons, Kirin is somehow prepped. Naruto can still tank it considering he tanked a Juubi laser without losing his cloak [
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Kyuubi chakra arms and shockwaves alone can manhandle Sasuke. Chakra arms have already shown their immense strength. A single chakra arm completely stopped all momentum and power of a complete Susano swipe by Madara [
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