EMS Sasuke vs BSM Naruto.

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This is sad. Eien no Mangekyōu Sasuke is beneath the notice of Biju Modō Naruto as it is. The addition of Senin Modō on top of that is idiocy at its best.

Sasuke's Final Advent hasn't shown itself to be on the level of Madara's nor has he shown that he can do it whilst not under the effects of the Kyuubi's chakra. Even it was as such, Naruto's Biju Modō is still beyond that by a decent margin.​
 

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Sasuke's unquantified Perfect Susano'O and Perfect Susano'O Enton variants don't equate to even being able to match Biju Mode Naruto.

Biju Mode Naruto takes this Low-Mid Diff. The addition of Senin Biju Mode is unnecessary
 

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I get the strange feeling the last three posts were all from the same person.

OT: Sasuke merely needs Tanking feats to win. Patience.
 

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I agree with a lot of people here concerning how close this battle really is.

Naruto's destructive power may be immense, but Sasuke has so many techniques that can keep Naruto on his toes throughout the battle. I want to put my thoughts in on an actual fight between the two, but it's late. I'll try and post my opinion tomorrow.

I will say that the biggest threat to Sasuke however, is Ma and Pa's Frog Song. The biggest threat to Naruto is CQC, due to Enton Manipulation from Sasuke. It's a lot closer than people think. Naruto's sage abilities need to be taken into account however, and I'm not sure how his BSM cloak would react to Amaterasu.

It's not like Killer Bee where he's actually a full Tailed Beast, for Naruto it's simply a massive amount of Chakra. I don't know how burning will affect it.

Anyway, this promises to be an amazing fight.
 

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Naruto wins, without summons it's mid to high difficulty, if he summons ma and pa it's a flawless victory, frog song has no counter.
 

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Sharingan sight is countered by Sennin Mõdo.

Genjutsu is not a factor here. Naruto has Kurama.

Amaterasu won't burn Naruto if he can deactivate Bijû Sennin Mõdo and re-activate it again. Remember that the Chãkra perishes in air. Not to mention, Naruto can easily sense it and dodge it with his speed.

Pâfekutõ Susanõ density is not par with Bijû Mõdo in anyway. Naruto would break it with Kawazu Kumite and his enormous strength of Sennin Mõdo.

Kirin is not a factor here in anyway, Bijû Mõdo tanked a Jûbi Dama with ease. Raiton should be restricted for it's uselessness.

Sasuke would get beaten badly, not to mention it's not certain he can have Pâfekutõ Susano since he had Jugõ with him.
 

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You guys actually believe he needs Naruto's cloak to use PS? :|​

What I believe is irrelevant.

He still had Naruto's chakra in him and we all saw what the Kyuubi chakra did to the Army. It turned them from fodder into actually useful people.

Kakashi was ready to Kamui Juubi. Do you honestly think that's just a -SMALL- boost? Kamui-ing the whole Juubi when he could barely Kamui a Susanoo arrow a few months before?
 

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Equals, so its highly dependent on what happens during the fight.
 

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Sharingan sight is countered by Sennin Mõdo.

Genjutsu is not a factor here. Naruto has Kurama.

Amaterasu won't burn Naruto if he can deactivate Bijû Sennin Mõdo and re-activate it again. Remember that the Chãkra perishes in air. Not to mention, Naruto can easily sense it and dodge it with his speed.

Pâfekutõ Susanõ density is not par with Bijû Mõdo in anyway. Naruto would break it with Kawazu Kumite and his enormous strength of Sennin Mõdo.

Kirin is not a factor here in anyway, Bijû Mõdo tanked a Jûbi Dama with ease. Raiton should be restricted for it's uselessness.

Sasuke would get beaten badly, not to mention it's not certain he can have Pâfekutõ Susano since he had Jugõ with him.

So, how did you come to the conclusion that Sasuke might not have Perfect Susanoo because of having Jūgo with him? and not mention the fact Sasuke was using Perfect Susanoo as an armor for Naruto's Kurama Avatar and Jūgo was no where to be seen at that point in the fight.​
 

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What I believe is irrelevant.

He still had Naruto's chakra in him and we all saw what the Kyuubi chakra did to the Army. It turned them from fodder into actually useful people.

Kakashi was ready to Kamui Juubi. Do you honestly think that's just a -SMALL- boost? Kamui-ing the whole Juubi when he could barely Kamui a Susanoo arrow a few months before?

The closer he is to obito the better his kamui get. This is stated in the manga (cant post scans im on my phone)
If the cloak was that strong this war would be over, not to mention the cloak was gone after they defeated obito.
 

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Until we see some other feats from Sasuke , BSM Naruto beats him U_U

Current Sasuke is at the same level if not higher than BM Naruto but he is below BSM Naruto.
 

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What I believe is irrelevant.

He still had Naruto's chakra in him and we all saw what the Kyuubi chakra did to the Army. It turned them from fodder into actually useful people.

Kakashi was ready to Kamui Juubi. Do you honestly think that's just a -SMALL- boost? Kamui-ing the whole Juubi when he could barely Kamui a Susanoo arrow a few months before?

Actually, the cloak was gone when Obito hit both Naruto and Sasuke at the ground(this was before Sasuke made the Perfect Susanoo)

 
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Sasuke stomps how does Naruto protect himself from Enton.
 

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Actually, the cloak was gone when Obito hit both Naruto and Sasuke at the ground(this was before Sasuke made the Perfect Susanoo)


The cloak is reactivated everytime Naruto enters Bijuu Mode.
 

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I like how Sasuke fanboys support their favorite eventhough the winner should be obvious
 

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I like how Sasuke fanboys support their favorite eventhough the winner should be obvious

The same could be said for Minato fans in Edo Madara versus Bijū Mōdo Minato.

:)
 

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I say Naruto has a higher probability. U_U
 

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I agree. Speed was the biggest factor in this entire and largely sparse argumentation. Sasuke has proven to be the first to detect Obito's movements. Naruto in BM would not pose any threat whatsoever. His BM Avatar countering Amaterasu or its variants is pure and sub-par fanfiction and made up at most. Amaterasu has proven to eat through all forms of Chakra - examples would be techniques of Sound 5 used by Kabuto which were cut through using Enton Blade, Itachi's usage of Amaterasu to eat through Sasuke's Katon, and finally the Bijuu Chakra affected and damaged in regards to Hachibi incident. All these incidents prove that Amaterasu affects Natural Energy, Regular Chakra, and Bijuu Chakra equally. To deny this is absolute rubbish.

Then we have the issue of FRS. A single Enton sword would suffice against all FRS. They would be turned into Amaterasu flames and thrown back on Naruto. Any clone would instantly vanish. Bijuu Damas having some kind of speed is another ridiculous argument. Through out the manga, BDs have been shown to have a large window of charge time, enough to effectively counter or evade them. I would post a few examples -

- When Naruto turned into a Mini Four-Tailed Kurama, he condensed the chakra from its tails to create a Flash Dama. It was launched but Orochimaru had enough time to erect three Roshomon gates to reduce the damage.

- Similarly, Deva landed a pillar on Naruto in Six-Tailed Mini-Kurama form when he was still charging the attack to deflect it in his favour.

- When Madara used BD and PS Sword Combination against Hashirama, he evaded it on foot and erected Roshomon gates to change the trajectory. Even in this case, the attack was already launched.

- Minato summoned Bunta on Kurama's head whilst it was still charging and teleported it to a safe location. Similarly, he was able to use S/T Barrier against it very easily when it requires four handseals.

- When Obito used Intangibility against Naruto's BD, he used the terms 'Too Slow'. He had no difficulty in reacting to it whatsoever.

These are just to name a few. To even suggest that Sasuke would use Enton sword - that was shown to extend to a very large size - to disrupt it is fanboyism at its finest. Also, if Hashirama can cover a large distance on foot and change its trajectory as well, who is to say Sasuke cannot simply jump with his Complete Susano'o or use Hawk summon to evade it altogether, if he miraculously doesn't disrupt it?

Then there is the issue of BD itself. It isn't obliterating PS. Nothing in the manga suggests it or implies it. Sasuke's PS should be able to withstand quite a few and Enton Coating should reduce the damage even further as Amaterasu is canoncially shown to eat through Chakra. With all this use of Enton, Kirin is prepared easily and the hot-spot storm can be extended as the fight would drag on, leaving any clones defeated before they can even attempt anything.

I would suggest the exact opposite - does Naruto have enough in his arsenal to truly defeat Sasuke?
 
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